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Irda Level Adjustment

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#1
zombiegleemax
Nov 17, 2003 23:08:37 The Irda are a cool race, no doubt about that, but when I sit down and compare them to other races with level adjustment, I come to think that the Irda have too high a level adjustment. I know their stats make for excellent wizard or sorcerer material, but still... I mean, when I look at Aasimar, they get cool racial adjustments, darkvison and energy resistances at only +1. What do you people think? Do the Irda have too high a level adjustment? Has anyone had any experience playing one or DM'ing a group that had an Irda? What are your thoughts on them?
#2
daedavias_dup
Nov 17, 2003 23:11:24 Shapeshifting definitely ups the level adjustment. I feel that the irda are fine right where they are at.
#3
zombiegleemax
Nov 18, 2003 20:18:51 yeah, their bonuses to int and charisma, combined with their shapeshifting and such, makes them worth the +2 la
#4
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2003 8:02:13 I think they're one of the weakest +2 LA races out there. I'm toying with droppping down some of their abilities a little bit, to make them a +1 LA race. As right now, even with their neat stat mods, no one plays them.

Aasimar are a more powerful +1 LA race in a lot of ways than the +2 Irda.

Yes, I like the flavor that the Irda bring, I just think they're a bit overvalued.
#5
daedavias_dup
Nov 19, 2003 9:52:33
Originally posted by Myrridin
I think they're one of the weakest +2 LA races out there. I'm toying with droppping down some of their abilities a little bit, to make them a +1 LA race. As right now, even with their neat stat mods, no one plays them.

Aasimar are a more powerful +1 LA race in a lot of ways than the +2 Irda.

Yes, I like the flavor that the Irda bring, I just think they're a bit overvalued.

I'd vote them as more powerful than drow, who are also LA +2. They both have innate abilities, but irda don't face any problems in light, have the ability to shapeshift, etc.

Give some examples of +2 LA races that are more powerful.
#6
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2003 10:39:59 Naga Slayers

+10 Str, Dex, Con, Int, Wis, and Cha
Cannot be killed.
Can cast every spell 30 times per day at as a sorcerer of level equal to the Naga Slayer's character level.
+1 ECL Naga Slayers gain levels more slowly than standard Player Character races and therefore require more experience.

See, that's a more powerful race and it's only +1 LA. :P

I actually think the Irda are rather powerful. Not "Higher than +2 ECL powerful," but powerful. I like them and Centaurs. Probably because the Centaur pick is kinda sexy... at least from the waist up.
#7
daedavias_dup
Nov 19, 2003 10:44:43
Originally posted by Naga_Slayer
Naga Slayers

+10 Str, Dex, Con, Int, Wis, and Cha
Cannot be killed.
Can cast every spell 30 times per day at as a sorcerer of level equal to the Naga Slayer's character level.
+1 ECL Naga Slayers gain levels more slowly than standard Player Character races and therefore require more experience.

See, that's a more powerful race and it's only +1 LA. :P

At first I was like, good lord that is overpowered. Then I was like....OOOOOHHH IT'S A JOKE!!! HAHAHA I get jokes.:embarrass :embarrass :embarrass
#8
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2003 12:28:21
Originally posted by Daedavias
I'd vote them as more powerful than drow, who are also LA +2. They both have innate abilities, but irda don't face any problems in light, have the ability to shapeshift, etc.

Give some examples of +2 LA races that are more powerful.

Drow, in my opinion, are more powerful. Innate Spell Resistance of 11+ class level is stronger than the ability to slightly change your shape 3 times a day.

The drow innate magical abilites, darkness, fairie fire...I can't remember if there's one more, are at least as good as the Irda ones.

Yes, the daylight penalties are a bit of a pain, but they're not that hard to get around either.

Granted, the favored class of male drow, as wizard, is horrible.

*shrug* It comes down to a judgement call I guess.

Though I'd still say the Aasimar are more powerful, No minuses to any stat, resistance to three (?) elements, daylight once per day, darkvision...all sorts of goodies, for only a +1 LA. It strikes me as stronger than the Irda adjustments.
#9
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2003 15:23:58 Thanks for the input, guys! I still find them rather wimpy being +2 ECL. Yes, their abilities are nice, but when you look at drow, as one mentioned, they fall WAY behind. Nothing really beats spell resistance 11+ class levels. It's always nice to hear some other people's thoughts on the matter.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Nov 17, 2003 23:08:37	The Irda are a cool race, no doubt about that, but when I sit down and compare them to other races with level adjustment, I come to think that the Irda have too high a level adjustment. I know their stats make for excellent wizard or sorcerer material, but still... I mean, when I look at Aasimar, they get cool racial adjustments, darkvison and energy resistances at only +1. What do you people think? Do the Irda have too high a level adjustment? Has anyone had any experience playing one or DM'ing a group that had an Irda? What are your thoughts on them?
#2 daedavias_dup Nov 17, 2003 23:11:24	Shapeshifting definitely ups the level adjustment. I feel that the irda are fine right where they are at.
#3 zombiegleemax Nov 18, 2003 20:18:51	yeah, their bonuses to int and charisma, combined with their shapeshifting and such, makes them worth the +2 la
#4 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2003 8:02:13	I think they're one of the weakest +2 LA races out there. I'm toying with droppping down some of their abilities a little bit, to make them a +1 LA race. As right now, even with their neat stat mods, no one plays them. Aasimar are a more powerful +1 LA race in a lot of ways than the +2 Irda. Yes, I like the flavor that the Irda bring, I just think they're a bit overvalued.
#5 daedavias_dup Nov 19, 2003 9:52:33	Originally posted by Myrridin I think they're one of the weakest +2 LA races out there. I'm toying with droppping down some of their abilities a little bit, to make them a +1 LA race. As right now, even with their neat stat mods, no one plays them. Aasimar are a more powerful +1 LA race in a lot of ways than the +2 Irda. Yes, I like the flavor that the Irda bring, I just think they're a bit overvalued. I'd vote them as more powerful than drow, who are also LA +2. They both have innate abilities, but irda don't face any problems in light, have the ability to shapeshift, etc. Give some examples of +2 LA races that are more powerful.
#6 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2003 10:39:59	Naga Slayers +10 Str, Dex, Con, Int, Wis, and Cha Cannot be killed. Can cast every spell 30 times per day at as a sorcerer of level equal to the Naga Slayer's character level. +1 ECL Naga Slayers gain levels more slowly than standard Player Character races and therefore require more experience. See, that's a more powerful race and it's only +1 LA. :P I actually think the Irda are rather powerful. Not "Higher than +2 ECL powerful," but powerful. I like them and Centaurs. Probably because the Centaur pick is kinda sexy... at least from the waist up.
#7 daedavias_dup Nov 19, 2003 10:44:43	Originally posted by Naga_Slayer Naga Slayers +10 Str, Dex, Con, Int, Wis, and Cha Cannot be killed. Can cast every spell 30 times per day at as a sorcerer of level equal to the Naga Slayer's character level. +1 ECL Naga Slayers gain levels more slowly than standard Player Character races and therefore require more experience. See, that's a more powerful race and it's only +1 LA. :P At first I was like, good lord that is overpowered. Then I was like....OOOOOHHH IT'S A JOKE!!! HAHAHA I get jokes.:embarrass :embarrass :embarrass
#8 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2003 12:28:21	Originally posted by Daedavias I'd vote them as more powerful than drow, who are also LA +2. They both have innate abilities, but irda don't face any problems in light, have the ability to shapeshift, etc. Give some examples of +2 LA races that are more powerful. Drow, in my opinion, are more powerful. Innate Spell Resistance of 11+ class level is stronger than the ability to slightly change your shape 3 times a day. The drow innate magical abilites, darkness, fairie fire...I can't remember if there's one more, are at least as good as the Irda ones. Yes, the daylight penalties are a bit of a pain, but they're not that hard to get around either. Granted, the favored class of male drow, as wizard, is horrible. shrug It comes down to a judgement call I guess. Though I'd still say the Aasimar are more powerful, No minuses to any stat, resistance to three (?) elements, daylight once per day, darkvision...all sorts of goodies, for only a +1 LA. It strikes me as stronger than the Irda adjustments.
#9 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2003 15:23:58	Thanks for the input, guys! I still find them rather wimpy being +2 ECL. Yes, their abilities are nice, but when you look at drow, as one mentioned, they fall WAY behind. Nothing really beats spell resistance 11+ class levels. It's always nice to hear some other people's thoughts on the matter.