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#1
zombiegleemax
Nov 18, 2003 13:30:53 Hello all!
As my party of mischevious players run across Athas, they annoy severel powers in the world.
Several merchant houses, some raiding tribes, and a couple of Tyrian nobles.

On their travels, they also deeply annoyed a Balician high templar, who just wanted to use them and kill them in the end.

So, this high templar, Skarian Draka, started sending bounty hunters, to bring the party back to Balic, where he will personally make them eat the inside of each other bodies (organs and all).

The players of course objected, and started killing those bounty hunters.

And this is where my new installment begins.

The high templar, decided to hire the two most powerful assasins known in the court of Andropinis (whom the party also annoyed to an extent).

He hired the two brothers. Melekir and Darius. Who have been active in Athas for decades (mybe even more...).

The party encountered them in Raam, after which the so called heroes escaped to a hiding place for many nights and days.

For this two brothers are unique among the bounty hunters.

They are the fallen pyreen.

They change the aura of reality around them.

And they are nasty.

Very, very, nasty.

Muha.

Muha.

Muhahahahhahhahaahhahahahhahahhahahahahahha!!!!!!!

More to come...

Any comments?
#2
gforce99
Nov 18, 2003 13:48:58 Fallen Pyreen? Isn't that like a fire-loving water elemental?
#3
zombiegleemax
Nov 18, 2003 13:55:55 no. it is like pyreen but evil. for everything there must be exceptions.

I confess, I still hadn't thought about the background story for this brothers, but it will be interesting.

their main power lays in the power of disguise. they can hide themselves as anyone (as the party discovered for their dismay...).
they strike from the shadow - suddenly, the quiet streets of after war Raam doesn't look so comforting...

BTW
Rajaat himself was a pyreen.
#4
jihun-nish
Nov 18, 2003 14:15:23 Well, you may not like mine but here goes.

First, I'm not saying it is impossible since Rajaat was a Pyreen himself and he turned out to be quite evil after deciding the fate of Athas and put that fate into his own hands.

And it could be possible that after ceveral millenia, another pyreen would "fallen" but two of them and brothers at that!!! very unlikely(to my point of view and other's I'm sure )

Of course you are God of your own DS campaing but have you concidered the burden the other pyreen, feeling responsible, would put on their shoulders to "master" or even kill their fallen brothers. That in itself would make powerfull enemies to your assassin brothers.

...... hey wait a minute....that would also explain why, in my story, traveling between the Hinterlands and the Jagged Cliffs is no more hindered by the pyreens. :D thanks dude!!!

The mystery is no more!!

No! Seriously, one assassin-pyreen could at long length be possible but two?? ..Hmm not in my athasian-pyreen-knowledgible logic.:D
#5
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Nov 18, 2003 23:13:05 I could have sworn that Rajaat *was* the exception to the rule that Pyreen are good.
#6
jihun-nish
Nov 18, 2003 23:16:23
Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
I could have sworn that Rajaat *was* the exception to the rule that Pyreen are good.

90% of my point exacly so we agree; one, maybe two, very unlikely!!
#7
avatardso
Nov 18, 2003 23:18:14 Even though he was born Pyreen he was also born misfigured... twisted some how physically and mentally...

Avatar
#8
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2003 5:55:19 I simply not using pyreens in my DS campaigns. They simply don't exist.

Reason1: it gives a more darker shade to the restorationist league, if they don't have the pyreens as überpowerful supporters behind them.

Reason2: with all the powers the pyreens have, it seems a wonder that they couldn't restore Athas yet. Except the sorcerer-monarchs and the Dragon there is nothing they can't defeat together. No defiler has a chance against them.
#9
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Nov 19, 2003 8:19:40 I have pyreens, but my player characters never find them.
#10
zombiegleemax
Nov 20, 2003 4:41:17
Reason2: with all the powers the pyreens have, it seems a wonder that they couldn't restore Athas yet. Except the sorcerer-monarchs and the Dragon there is nothing they can't defeat together. No defiler has a chance against them

So then you simply need a few reasons to back up the logic behind your second statement in order to include pyreen. Two simple facts: rarity, and disparity.

In keeping with the flavor of the setting, the pyreen are a dying species. They are of a finite number, incapable of reproducing (yes, it was stated the Rajaat was born at a certain time, perhaps his birth was the reason that the pyreen choose not to reproduce). The many years of struggling against the SKs and the Dragon has depleted their numbers so far that they lack the ability to act with cohesion. They have sperated and spread themselves over the Tablelands to better hide from Borys who took special delight in hunting the pyreen (in case one should turn out to be the next Rajaat).
#11
zombiegleemax
Nov 20, 2003 7:23:07
Originally posted by Mach2.5
So then you simply need a few reasons to back up the logic behind your second statement in order to include pyreen. Two simple facts: rarity, and disparity.

Hmm, based on what is written in the DS monstrous compendium at the pyreens, they are not so few. I assume there are between 10-20 pyreens in the Tablelands. Especially considering that the Tablelands is a quite small area this is still a significant amount.

But even one pyreen is a deadly enemy for any defiler, be it on any level. With a smart tactic including misleads, traps and disguise (and pyreens are highly intelligent) and their abilites one of them could bring the Black Sand Raiders down together with their chief defiler (Fevil).
#12
gforce99
Nov 20, 2003 8:13:37 Can someone please give me the source material of where it tells us that Rajaat was Pyreen.

Thanks!
#13
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Nov 20, 2003 8:30:04 I think Prism Pentad, DS2 Boxed set, maybe a few others. I've seen it peppered in a few of the sourcebooks.
#14
zombiegleemax
Nov 20, 2003 15:49:01 Thank you for your replys!
Jihun-Nish there is no issue of "not liking my reply" here, as I always enjoy reading other people opinions (even if they are not like mine).

my pyreen are the remnants of an old race, that is also a dying race. They never fight on their own, but gather information so maybe someday a hero may use it.

I thought a lot about this two fallen pyreen of mine, but I still like this idea. I just don't like to oblige to the "all pyreen are good/all defilers are bad". My party are all mature players, I need to stimulate them constantly, and also to make the game world interesting for me. The whole "evil mastermind is a defiler" idea is lacking after the first defilers the party kills.

what I like, is schemes, and plans within plans (sorry, I love dune), the party must always be careful, always wary, "who is the bad guy?, is he this preacher who tells about the day of light? is he the merchant lord who wants to hire the party? is he the robed man in the psionical academy of Tarandas? or maybe he is this council man of the new Raamish council?"

the party never knows.

I put them in a devious world, where trading houses and noblemen each has their own agenda. there are many interests, even to the preservers of the alliances, even to the pyreen, druids, element priests.

in a world of wastes, where there many dark corners, and many remote places, there can be mad druids, evil priests, and in my world, even fallen pyreen.

the party learned to trust the pyreen in my Athas. they helped each other raise solonor of balic to avangionship. they fought side by side in the island of Voraka against the oncoming waves of balician soldiers.

now I change the variables a bit. there is a secret amongst the pyreen. the fallen pyreen. those who where outcasts from the original noble race of "peace bringers"

- my explanation for this knick name is that this was their role in the eradication wars. they tried to bring peace to the warring nations. they failed of course, and many blame themselves for not fighting in the old age - off topic. damn. -

those outcast where almost all destroyed, as the pyreen could not stand their existance.

but two remained. they concealed themselved carefully. and the pyreen will only know about them as they were sent to kill the party, who are friends to the pyreen.

well, to sum it up, Rajaat was unique. he was a misfigured creature, who turned his loathing of himself on the world.

but there were other dark pyreen. outcasts, mercenaries, assasins.

hope to here your ideas soon!

#15
jihun-nish
Nov 20, 2003 19:27:03
Originally posted by GFORCE99
Can someone please give me the source material of where it tells us that Rajaat was Pyreen.

Thanks!

In The Wanderer's Chronicles page 12 second paragraph and I quote:

But one pyreen was unlike his brethrenHe called himself Rajaat. etc etc.
#16
gforce99
Nov 21, 2003 7:15:56 Thanks Jihun!
:0
#17
Grummore
Dec 01, 2003 13:27:19 eyalrein, would you mind sending me a email please?

Thanks

grummore[at]videotron.ca
#18
zombiegleemax
Dec 02, 2003 14:05:54 email sent!
is it doesnt reach you or whatever, find me in: [email]talish80@hotmail.com[/email] or [email]eyal_rein@yahoo.com[/email]
bye!
#19
zombiegleemax
Dec 02, 2003 14:08:04 email sent!
is it doesnt reach you or whatever, find me in: [email]talish80@hotmail.com[/email] or [email]eyal_rein@yahoo.com[/email]
bye!
#20
zombiegleemax
Dec 02, 2003 15:29:13 hey eyal,
did you get my email?

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#1 zombiegleemax Nov 18, 2003 13:30:53	Hello all! As my party of mischevious players run across Athas, they annoy severel powers in the world. Several merchant houses, some raiding tribes, and a couple of Tyrian nobles. On their travels, they also deeply annoyed a Balician high templar, who just wanted to use them and kill them in the end. So, this high templar, Skarian Draka, started sending bounty hunters, to bring the party back to Balic, where he will personally make them eat the inside of each other bodies (organs and all). The players of course objected, and started killing those bounty hunters. And this is where my new installment begins. The high templar, decided to hire the two most powerful assasins known in the court of Andropinis (whom the party also annoyed to an extent). He hired the two brothers. Melekir and Darius. Who have been active in Athas for decades (mybe even more...). The party encountered them in Raam, after which the so called heroes escaped to a hiding place for many nights and days. For this two brothers are unique among the bounty hunters. They are the fallen pyreen. They change the aura of reality around them. And they are nasty. Very, very, nasty. Muha. Muha. Muhahahahhahhahaahhahahahhahahhahahahahahha!!!!!!! More to come... Any comments?
#2 gforce99 Nov 18, 2003 13:48:58	Fallen Pyreen? Isn't that like a fire-loving water elemental?
#3 zombiegleemax Nov 18, 2003 13:55:55	no. it is like pyreen but evil. for everything there must be exceptions. I confess, I still hadn't thought about the background story for this brothers, but it will be interesting. their main power lays in the power of disguise. they can hide themselves as anyone (as the party discovered for their dismay...). they strike from the shadow - suddenly, the quiet streets of after war Raam doesn't look so comforting... BTW Rajaat himself was a pyreen.
#4 jihun-nish Nov 18, 2003 14:15:23	Well, you may not like mine but here goes. First, I'm not saying it is impossible since Rajaat was a Pyreen himself and he turned out to be quite evil after deciding the fate of Athas and put that fate into his own hands. And it could be possible that after ceveral millenia, another pyreen would "fallen" but two of them and brothers at that!!! very unlikely(to my point of view and other's I'm sure ) Of course you are God of your own DS campaing but have you concidered the burden the other pyreen, feeling responsible, would put on their shoulders to "master" or even kill their fallen brothers. That in itself would make powerfull enemies to your assassin brothers. ...... hey wait a minute....that would also explain why, in my story, traveling between the Hinterlands and the Jagged Cliffs is no more hindered by the pyreens. :D thanks dude!!! The mystery is no more!! No! Seriously, one assassin-pyreen could at long length be possible but two?? ..Hmm not in my athasian-pyreen-knowledgible logic.:D
#5 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Nov 18, 2003 23:13:05	I could have sworn that Rajaat was the exception to the rule that Pyreen are good.
#6 jihun-nish Nov 18, 2003 23:16:23	Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm *I could have sworn that Rajaat was* the exception to the rule that Pyreen are good.** 90% of my point exacly so we agree; one, maybe two, very unlikely!!
#7 avatardso Nov 18, 2003 23:18:14	Even though he was born Pyreen he was also born misfigured... twisted some how physically and mentally... Avatar
#8 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2003 5:55:19	I simply not using pyreens in my DS campaigns. They simply don't exist. Reason1: it gives a more darker shade to the restorationist league, if they don't have the pyreens as überpowerful supporters behind them. Reason2: with all the powers the pyreens have, it seems a wonder that they couldn't restore Athas yet. Except the sorcerer-monarchs and the Dragon there is nothing they can't defeat together. No defiler has a chance against them.
#9 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Nov 19, 2003 8:19:40	I have pyreens, but my player characters never find them.
#10 zombiegleemax Nov 20, 2003 4:41:17	Reason2: with all the powers the pyreens have, it seems a wonder that they couldn't restore Athas yet. Except the sorcerer-monarchs and the Dragon there is nothing they can't defeat together. No defiler has a chance against them So then you simply need a few reasons to back up the logic behind your second statement in order to include pyreen. Two simple facts: rarity, and disparity. In keeping with the flavor of the setting, the pyreen are a dying species. They are of a finite number, incapable of reproducing (yes, it was stated the Rajaat was born at a certain time, perhaps his birth was the reason that the pyreen choose not to reproduce). The many years of struggling against the SKs and the Dragon has depleted their numbers so far that they lack the ability to act with cohesion. They have sperated and spread themselves over the Tablelands to better hide from Borys who took special delight in hunting the pyreen (in case one should turn out to be the next Rajaat).
#11 zombiegleemax Nov 20, 2003 7:23:07	Originally posted by Mach2.5 So then you simply need a few reasons to back up the logic behind your second statement in order to include pyreen. Two simple facts: rarity, and disparity. Hmm, based on what is written in the DS monstrous compendium at the pyreens, they are not so few. I assume there are between 10-20 pyreens in the Tablelands. Especially considering that the Tablelands is a quite small area this is still a significant amount. But even one pyreen is a deadly enemy for any defiler, be it on any level. With a smart tactic including misleads, traps and disguise (and pyreens are highly intelligent) and their abilites one of them could bring the Black Sand Raiders down together with their chief defiler (Fevil).
#12 gforce99 Nov 20, 2003 8:13:37	Can someone please give me the source material of where it tells us that Rajaat was Pyreen. Thanks!
#13 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Nov 20, 2003 8:30:04	I think Prism Pentad, DS2 Boxed set, maybe a few others. I've seen it peppered in a few of the sourcebooks.
#14 zombiegleemax Nov 20, 2003 15:49:01	Thank you for your replys! Jihun-Nish there is no issue of "not liking my reply" here, as I always enjoy reading other people opinions (even if they are not like mine). my pyreen are the remnants of an old race, that is also a dying race. They never fight on their own, but gather information so maybe someday a hero may use it. I thought a lot about this two fallen pyreen of mine, but I still like this idea. I just don't like to oblige to the "all pyreen are good/all defilers are bad". My party are all mature players, I need to stimulate them constantly, and also to make the game world interesting for me. The whole "evil mastermind is a defiler" idea is lacking after the first defilers the party kills. what I like, is schemes, and plans within plans (sorry, I love dune), the party must always be careful, always wary, "who is the bad guy?, is he this preacher who tells about the day of light? is he the merchant lord who wants to hire the party? is he the robed man in the psionical academy of Tarandas? or maybe he is this council man of the new Raamish council?" the party never knows. I put them in a devious world, where trading houses and noblemen each has their own agenda. there are many interests, even to the preservers of the alliances, even to the pyreen, druids, element priests. in a world of wastes, where there many dark corners, and many remote places, there can be mad druids, evil priests, and in my world, even fallen pyreen. the party learned to trust the pyreen in my Athas. they helped each other raise solonor of balic to avangionship. they fought side by side in the island of Voraka against the oncoming waves of balician soldiers. now I change the variables a bit. there is a secret amongst the pyreen. the fallen pyreen. those who where outcasts from the original noble race of "peace bringers" - my explanation for this knick name is that this was their role in the eradication wars. they tried to bring peace to the warring nations. they failed of course, and many blame themselves for not fighting in the old age - off topic. damn. - those outcast where almost all destroyed, as the pyreen could not stand their existance. but two remained. they concealed themselved carefully. and the pyreen will only know about them as they were sent to kill the party, who are friends to the pyreen. well, to sum it up, Rajaat was unique. he was a misfigured creature, who turned his loathing of himself on the world. but there were other dark pyreen. outcasts, mercenaries, assasins. hope to here your ideas soon!
#15 jihun-nish Nov 20, 2003 19:27:03	Originally posted by GFORCE99 Can someone please give me the source material of where it tells us that Rajaat was Pyreen. Thanks! In The Wanderer's Chronicles page 12 second paragraph and I quote: But one pyreen was unlike his brethrenHe called himself Rajaat. etc etc.
#16 gforce99 Nov 21, 2003 7:15:56	Thanks Jihun! :0
#17 Grummore Dec 01, 2003 13:27:19	eyalrein, would you mind sending me a email please? Thanks grummore[at]videotron.ca
#18 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2003 14:05:54	email sent! is it doesnt reach you or whatever, find me in: [email]talish80@hotmail.com[/email] or [email]eyal_rein@yahoo.com[/email] bye!
#19 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2003 14:08:04	email sent! is it doesnt reach you or whatever, find me in: [email]talish80@hotmail.com[/email] or [email]eyal_rein@yahoo.com[/email] bye!
#20 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2003 15:29:13	hey eyal, did you get my email?