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The Ogre's Choice

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#1
zombiegleemax
Dec 13, 2003 20:22:45 I can't remember if it was Chronicles or Legends, nor who said it, but the Ogre's Choice was mentioned in one of them. I think it might have been Raistlin. It's his kind of thing. Basically, it is the choice of dying quickly or dying slowly.

What would you choose? I'm not talking about the specific choice they faced, but in general.
#2
Illithidbix
Dec 13, 2003 22:17:51

Maybe it refers to the choice made by Igraine to not kill the slave who disobeyed his orders and rescued his trapped daughter?

Unfortunately the new DLCS doesn’t have as an extensive history on the incident in it as some of the earlier editions main sourcebooks did (even if everything else in the book is superior and has less blatant contradictions).

(Look in the history section of my copy of "Tales of the Lance" that’s probably about two meters away from you. )
#3
zombiegleemax
Dec 13, 2003 22:25:28 Well, Tales of the Lance is less than 20cm from my outstretched arm (I use it for reference for these boards), but you missed the point.

I was asking if you would choose to die slowly, or die quickly.
#4
Illithidbix
Dec 13, 2003 22:33:10 Umm, depends, it could be said that currently I am dying very slowly (as Anya says in a Buffy episode, “I'm dying... I may have as few as 50 years to live…”).

However if it was a choice of dying slowly in incapacitating pain, almost incapable of doing or thinking about anything else, with no-hope of escape and just dying painlessly, then I would go with the painless.

However if their is a chance I could escape, that doesn't rely on a minor miracle then I would probably prefer to die slowly. Or if the pain can be ignored enough so that I can continue a life that isn’t unbearable then likewise I would prefer to die slowly.

Depends on the exact nature of the pain as well, how intense it is, how easily I can ignore it and whether it is physical, mental or emotional.
#5
zombiegleemax
Dec 13, 2003 22:37:40 Well, since it's called the Ogre's Choice, I suppose there'd be an amount of pain in each, and you're not going to be living, exactly, in the meantime. Not like you would be if the dying took 50 years or so.

Say for arguments sake that you get a week or a day, and an equivalent amount of pain. On the one day, you suffer incredible pain, and the suffering ends, but with a week, you're alive for 6 days extra, but in quite a lot of pain for a longer time.
#6
ferratus
Dec 14, 2003 2:32:29 I always thought the "Ogre's Choice" refered to the choice an ogre would give his victims, being a sadistic and evil lot.

Myself, I'd choose the slow death, because I'd want to fight to the bitter end, or make my life last as long as possible. I've never understood the desire for people to choose death over pain and horror.

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#1 zombiegleemax Dec 13, 2003 20:22:45	I can't remember if it was Chronicles or Legends, nor who said it, but the Ogre's Choice was mentioned in one of them. I think it might have been Raistlin. It's his kind of thing. Basically, it is the choice of dying quickly or dying slowly. What would you choose? I'm not talking about the specific choice they faced, but in general.
#2 Illithidbix Dec 13, 2003 22:17:51	Maybe it refers to the choice made by Igraine to not kill the slave who disobeyed his orders and rescued his trapped daughter? Unfortunately the new DLCS doesn’t have as an extensive history on the incident in it as some of the earlier editions main sourcebooks did (even if everything else in the book is superior and has less blatant contradictions). (Look in the history section of my copy of "Tales of the Lance" that’s probably about two meters away from you. )
#3 zombiegleemax Dec 13, 2003 22:25:28	Well, Tales of the Lance is less than 20cm from my outstretched arm (I use it for reference for these boards), but you missed the point. I was asking if you would choose to die slowly, or die quickly.
#4 Illithidbix Dec 13, 2003 22:33:10	Umm, depends, it could be said that currently I am dying very slowly (as Anya says in a Buffy episode, “I'm dying... I may have as few as 50 years to live…”). However if it was a choice of dying slowly in incapacitating pain, almost incapable of doing or thinking about anything else, with no-hope of escape and just dying painlessly, then I would go with the painless. However if their is a chance I could escape, that doesn't rely on a minor miracle then I would probably prefer to die slowly. Or if the pain can be ignored enough so that I can continue a life that isn’t unbearable then likewise I would prefer to die slowly. Depends on the exact nature of the pain as well, how intense it is, how easily I can ignore it and whether it is physical, mental or emotional.
#5 zombiegleemax Dec 13, 2003 22:37:40	Well, since it's called the Ogre's Choice, I suppose there'd be an amount of pain in each, and you're not going to be living, exactly, in the meantime. Not like you would be if the dying took 50 years or so. Say for arguments sake that you get a week or a day, and an equivalent amount of pain. On the one day, you suffer incredible pain, and the suffering ends, but with a week, you're alive for 6 days extra, but in quite a lot of pain for a longer time.
#6 ferratus Dec 14, 2003 2:32:29	I always thought the "Ogre's Choice" refered to the choice an ogre would give his victims, being a sadistic and evil lot. Myself, I'd choose the slow death, because I'd want to fight to the bitter end, or make my life last as long as possible. I've never understood the desire for people to choose death over pain and horror.