a wee thread about the cant

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#1

sildatorak

Dec 17, 2003 3:35:30
I actually have a pair of cant related questions. Has any of the rest of you accidentally used cant in everyday conversation? One guy I was talking to got a pretty weird look on his face when I told him to pike it.

I was also wondering if there are any good ideas out there for new cant terms...I know there are, so let your creativity flow (I know you've been repressed since the mimir hasn't been updating since ages ago). Here are a couple I have (oddly enough they are both dead):

Scribble - One who has been put in the dead book in an undistinguished or undignified way. "That rampaging goristo has to be around someplace, look at that pile of scribbles."

Wearing a second grin - To have been murdered. The term comes from the appearence of a slit throat.

Give the grin - To assassinate someone. See "wearing a second grin"
#2

zombiegleemax

Dec 17, 2003 10:02:35
I say "bleeding" all of the time. On occasion, I also say barmy, berk, sod(ding), and leatherhead.

I don't think I've ever said anything else in cant during everyday conversation. Those are the mains and I only get weird looks from people sometimes ;)
#3

zombiegleemax

Dec 17, 2003 10:11:32
I've use "pike it", "sodding", and "berk" rarely. I've used the phrase "barmy berk" far too many times without even noticing it. "Barmy" just keeps on slipping out also.
#4

zombiegleemax

Dec 17, 2003 10:18:16
part of the problem is that cant is based on historical slang, so depending on where you are, it may be common usage (unlikely but possible). that said, i dont use it unless i'm IC, like on a message board.
#5

friendlyfiend

Dec 17, 2003 11:43:54
Well, "sodding", "berk", "bleeding" and "barmy" are all in contemporary use in the UK with the first three being mild (often friendly) swear words. This is despite the fact that "berk" originates from rhyming slang and is actually very rude if used in its original sense.

I don't know off-hand if it's cited in any of the PS books but if you can get hold of it Eric Partridge's "Dictionary of the Underworld" is a fantastic source of cant.
#6

Shemeska_the_Marauder

Dec 17, 2003 12:25:45
*soft hiss and an angry glare at the Friendly Fiend*

I find myself using 'barmy', 'bob', 'tumble to the dark of', dark, and 'pike off' on a semi regular basis. My players have also started to use some of the terms out of the game as well. It's been amusing.

It was also just as fun looking up the original terms from British slang. Berk is rather offensive when used in the original rhyming slang meaning as was just pointed out in the last post. *chuckle*
#7

MephitJames

Dec 17, 2003 16:22:45
I use plenty of cant terms but only with fellow PSers. When thinking about UK things I sometimes find myself wanting to use the cant, but it's only IC that it actually gets any use.

The Mimir had a lot of fan-created cant that should still be up. I think starting a new list for PS3e purposes would also be worthwhile (nudge, nudge o powers-that-be).
#8

kalidor187

Dec 17, 2003 20:23:09
I've used the cant a few times at work. Now that was amusing. Imagine this- I'm in Kosovo with all these officers and one of them hands me a report to get my opinion. I read over it and state, "This is a bunch of screed. This idiot'll rattle his bone box to anyone who'll listen." Now I have to explain to a colonel, a major, and two captains what I just said. I'm sure my boss would have said something to me, but he didn't understand me either.
#9

zombiegleemax

Dec 18, 2003 0:49:29
'bub' and 'bubber' see the most use for me. occasionally 'berk' and 'cutter'.

Here's new cant
Abyssal Lord: a powerfull cutter who is one of many but places too much importance on him/her/itself ie 'That crosstrader's an Abyssal Lord'

Word play cant
Abbyssal (abby-is-al) Lord: A cleric of a dead Power.
#10

zombiegleemax

Dec 18, 2003 15:00:29
Originally posted by Shemeska the Marauder
Berk is rather offensive when used in the original rhyming slang meaning as was just pointed out in the last post. *chuckle*

And what would that be?
#11

raymond_luxury_yacht

Dec 18, 2003 15:50:31
Originally posted by nick012000
And what would that be?

It starts with a "c".
#12

zombiegleemax

Dec 18, 2003 18:12:30
I use "piking", mostly because it's too hard to get away with "real" swearing at my school.

And I just think "barmy" sounds better than "nuts."
#13

zombiegleemax

Dec 19, 2003 17:53:10
Originally posted by Raymond_Luxury_Yacht
Originally posted by nick012000
And what would that be?

It starts with a "c".

Cerk? Cirque?
#14

sildatorak

Dec 19, 2003 18:38:18
Originally posted by nick012000

Cerk? Cirque?

That's not the way the rhyming slang works...an example is in order

talking about "whistles" is talking about either the lower planes in general or baator specifically because

Whistles and Bells = Hells


I still can't figure out what the word that goes with berk is. [disclaimer] I don't know how posting this stacks up with the CoC, so if anyone is offended by this post, just say something (pm or reply) and I'll edit it right out.[/disclaimer] Runt?
#15

zombiegleemax

Dec 19, 2003 19:24:40
Yesterday actually, I was getting razzed by co-workers about someone who works a line or two over feom me....anyway, the one who started the whole mess mouther something else and without thinking I told him to "shut his addle-coved barmy, bone box if he knew what was good for him"

Needless to say they looked at me like i grew a second head but they left me alone....
#16

zombiegleemax

Dec 19, 2003 19:56:17
The rhyming slang that goes with berk is "Berkley Hunt". Now I believe we can all guess what the true menaing of "Berk" is.
#17

zombiegleemax

Dec 20, 2003 5:15:35
uh huh. I know now. Isn't it a word for the male genitalia?
#18

zombiegleemax

Dec 20, 2003 5:32:35
Female, actually. Now we stop this before we all get in trouble.