Here's one of Talos' appearances in Greek mythology: "Some have said that Talos 1 was son of Cres and father of Hephaestus. But others affirm that he was a creature made of bronze, given by Zeus to Europa, or by Hephaestus to Minos 2, to be the warder of Crete; and whereas some have asserted that he was a brazen man, others have said that he was a bull. Talos 1, yet others affirm, was the last of a generation of men of bronze, sprung from the ash-trees."
There are a number of Greek mythological creatures and figures named Talos, though. Clearly, I don't know exactly who Talos the Triple Iron Golem is in dnd.
Originally posted by Factol Rhys
But others affirm that he was a creature made of bronze, given by Zeus to Europa, or by Hephaestus to Minos 2, to be the warder of Crete... the last of a generation of men of bronze, sprung from the ash-trees."
I remember the bronze Talos from mythology and he was definitely a golem. He was created to tear apart any ships coming to near Crete. Asimov referred to him as perhaps the first example of a robot.
Originally, Talos was referred to as being a giant bronze automaton that Zeus gave to Europa, Xanxost bets Hera didn't like that! Of course, Hera really doesn't like much of anything, not even Slaadi. Talos though was killed when Medea removed the pin that held its life force in its body. Xanxost doesn't know why they used a pin to hold the life force, usually souls are put into gems.
Xanxost also remembers Talos being in a Castlevania game, the Harmony of Dissonance...That sounds like a site in Pandemonium! Talos was a really big metal automaton that tries to crush you at the very beginning. That happens to Xanxost a lot when he tries to go places.
The Triple Iron Golem Talos probably isn't related to the Prime Faerun Power called Talos.
Now the current Talos, the Triple Iron Golem, is in service to Dis, the Archdevil with the most power over iron. Of course, Dis is a cursed Baatezu...lawful despised Baatezu...which means that though Talos is a golem, it still has an alignment, that of Lawful Evil. Xanxost belives that both Law and Evil are follies. Only Chaos is the true way.
How Talos went from Arborea as a creation of Zeus, to Baator as a servant of Dis, Xanxost doesn't know.
Of course, Dis is a cursed Baatezu...lawful despised Baatezu...which means that though Talos is a golem, it still has an alignment, that of Lawful Evil.
Well, at least it has a bit of sense. Not much mind you, being a Baatezu golem creature, but more sense than some in this multiverse
The Triple Iron thing still sounds like the "Triple-Sentinal" from Deadpool awhile back, but I think the Deadpool was newer.
It was either a random idea then or something from on of the campaigns involving the authors. In any case, it wasn't explained.
The Book of Vile Darkness has some stats, I believe, but most DMs I knew back in the day had their own, usually completely differing, takes on it.
For a quick and dirty fix, perhaps just take the iron colossus from the epic handbook and make it more sentient
That might not be a good idea, seeing how that thing could pretty easily crush Asmodeus himself to a bloody pulp in a few rounds. How on earth did the creators of the ELH think you'd be able to take that monstrosity out anyway. With the antimagic field surrounding it you'll have to first hit AC 60 and then deal 30+ damage with weapon that are no longer magical to scratch it, while making saves for death from massive damage twice per round, not to forget the DC 58 Fort save to avoid a massive 3d6 constitution damage once every 1d4 rounds. (I'm just rambling I know the question doesn't belong here.)
The real pertinent question is: does anyone remember who this guy is?
Originally posted by Omonoth
That might not be a good idea, seeing how that thing could pretty easily crush Asmodeus himself to a bloody pulp in a few rounds. How on earth did the creators of the ELH think you'd be able to take that monstrosity out anyway. With the antimagic field surrounding it you'll have to first hit AC 60 and then deal 30+ damage with weapon that are no longer magical to scratch it, while making saves for death from massive damage twice per round, not to forget the DC 58 Fort save to avoid a massive 3d6 constitution damage once every 1d4 rounds. (I'm just rambling I know the question doesn't belong here.)
I love that thing. You forgot that it can't be rusted either.
Originally posted by Omonoth
That might not be a good idea, seeing how that thing could pretty easily crush Asmodeus himself to a bloody pulp in a few rounds. How on earth did the creators of the ELH think you'd be able to take that monstrosity out anyway. With the antimagic field surrounding it you'll have to first hit AC 60 and then deal 30+ damage with weapon that are no longer magical to scratch it, while making saves for death from massive damage twice per round, not to forget the DC 58 Fort save to avoid a massive 3d6 constitution damage once every 1d4 rounds. (I'm just rambling I know the question doesn't belong here.)
There is very little that can crush our Lord and Master in just a few rounds. Our Lord and Master is one of the few beings in existence who knows how Talos, the Triple Iron Golem came to guard Dispater's Iron Tower. Of course, his will and knowledge is not for the sharing with mere mortals, nor even despicable Slaadi, treacherous Yugoloths, or his own Baatezu servants. And certainly not for us, his Humble Servant.
Originally posted by Factol Rhys
The real pertinent question is: does anyone remember who this guy is?
Drinnik? Yeah, I know him. Neat guy, if you ignore the fact that he's a vampire.
He got his riff as the triple golem because he had three times the HP and inflicted 3 times the damage as a regular iron golem waaaay back in 1.0 long before people started thinking about making monsters who had stats to scale with the power of adventures. I don't believe he has a developed alignment, he's as brain dead as any golem (and hence N). Because he was so powerful vis-a-via 1.0E characters who universally faced a cut off of HD by 9th or 10th level (okay unless you were a monk...) He was listed in old DMGs as a possible way to destroy an artifact.
How Dispater came into command of him isn't known. I guess someone though it'd be cool for the ruler of the Iron City of Dis to have the ultimate Iron Golem. In 1.0 (and as far as I know 2.0) there is no reference to any connection. Certainly not in the 1.0 Monster Manuel. I think Talos should "just" be advanced to three times an Iron Golems starting HD. Maybe with an immunity to rusting effects.
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CR 22, 287HP with an AC 37, +53 to attack with 2 slams, 4d6+15 each, DR 50/+3 (BoVD was pre DR change in 3.5). . . Oh, I like his Breath weapon.. Primary effect is a lot of con damage.. secondary effect is death.
That might not be a good idea, seeing how that thing could pretty easily crush Asmodeus himself to a bloody pulp in a few rounds. How on earth did the creators of the ELH think you'd be able to take that monstrosity out anyway. With the antimagic field surrounding it you'll have to first hit AC 60 and then deal 30+ damage with weapon that are no longer magical to scratch it, while making saves for death from massive damage twice per round, not to forget the DC 58 Fort save to avoid a massive 3d6 constitution damage once every 1d4 rounds. (I'm just rambling I know the question doesn't belong here.)
That thing isn't -that- powerful. And if you're using epic creatures, you're not going to be using the stats from the BoVD or the FC for archfiends.