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Foreign wizard

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#1
angelroble2
Dec 30, 2003 10:08:29 Hi!
Im playing a generalist Wizard that just have come from Toril to Krynn. According to the forum faqs, I dont have to specialize (something I was worried about) to enter the wizard orders, but have I to be a follower of one of the "moon gods" ie Lunitari...? Have I to draw power from these moons? I really dont know very much about Krynn... Thanks a lot
#2
ferratus
Dec 30, 2003 14:34:54 Near as we can figure, there is a strong religious undercurrent to the Orders of High Sorcery, which functions as a sort of mystery cult.

However, wizardry is wizardry and only depends on a wizard's knowledge and skill, not his devotion to the gods. That is why you can go renegade and forsake the orders and the moon gods, yet still cast wizard spells.
#3
Dragonhelm
Dec 30, 2003 14:45:00 Basically, your wizard would still be able to cast spells. Once you get to the point to where you're casting 3rd-level spells or above, the Orders of High Sorcery will seek your character out. He then would have to take the Test, or be branded a renegade.

As the FAQ mentions, you don't need to be a specialist to join the Orders of High Sorcery, but you lose the enhanced specialization class ability if you do.
#4
kipper_snifferdoo_02
Dec 30, 2003 16:40:50
Originally posted by Dragonhelm
Basically, your wizard would still be able to cast spells. Once you get to the point to where you're casting 3rd-level spells or above, the Orders of High Sorcery will seek your character out. He then would have to take the Test, or be branded a renegade.

Of course you need to take into account when your wizard arrives. If he arrives right after the War of Souls it is unlikely that he will be hunted any time soon. The Wizards are still trying to put their order back together at the moment.
;)
#5
zombiegleemax
Dec 30, 2003 22:43:19 I always had a problem with the kind of magic and where the magic comes from when dealing with situations like this. In comparing the realms to Krynn I have always had a time ellapse for adjusting. Just because you have to channel the magic different and such at least that is how i always looked at it. Though nothing official was ever stated on the matter.
#6
talinthas
Dec 31, 2003 0:19:45 wouldnt a faerunian wizard have problems beyond the moons? They draw their magic from a weave or something, and i'm gonna assume that mystra isnt too keen on leasing her magic outside of her zone of control.
#7
angelroble2
Dec 31, 2003 2:53:03
Originally posted by talinthas
wouldnt a faerunian wizard have problems beyond the moons? They draw their magic from a weave or something, and i'm gonna assume that mystra isnt too keen on leasing her magic outside of her zone of control.

Yes, I think Mystra gives access to magic, but... indeed, my character, though he came to Krynn from Toril, was born and teached in Mystara, where immortals ruled. You know, my char is a 3.5 conversion of a AD&D conversion of a D&D (1st ed) char.
Any of you remember the adventure that came in the D&D DMG? Bargle the Wizard? Karameikos?
I was only 11 years old, and he was my first char. That's why his name is "Gandulf el Vago" instead "Gandalf el Mago" (in spanish, both Gandul and Vago mean lazy, and Mago means Wizard). At that time, I thought it was a brilliant idea...
Sorry, sorry, I know this is a Dragonlance forum...
#8
ferratus
Dec 31, 2003 4:06:27
Originally posted by talinthas
wouldnt a faerunian wizard have problems beyond the moons? They draw their magic from a weave or something, and i'm gonna assume that mystra isnt too keen on leasing her magic outside of her zone of control.

Eh, they can always have an "epiphany" and just swap the levels out. It seems to be a pretty much instantaneous procedure.

However, if we're dealing with crossovers, I think the best thing to assume is that magic and magical lore is the same everywhere, it just has different sources.
#9
cam_banks
Dec 31, 2003 7:09:32
Originally posted by ferratus
Eh, they can always have an "epiphany" and just swap the levels out. It seems to be a pretty much instantaneous procedure.

Strictly speaking, it isn't quite instantaneous. You need to advance a level in the spellcasting class you intend to switch to before all of your other spellcaster levels convert over.

But your comment about the universality of arcane magic does make the best sense given the circumstances. With the sheer amount of cross-development that seems to have taken place across all of the D&D worlds, from beholders and dragons to spell effects and magic items, one could assume that casting fireball is more or less the same from Krynn to Faerun to Oerth. Unless you want to make life difficult for the players.

Cheers,
Cam

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#1 angelroble2 Dec 30, 2003 10:08:29	Hi! Im playing a generalist Wizard that just have come from Toril to Krynn. According to the forum faqs, I dont have to specialize (something I was worried about) to enter the wizard orders, but have I to be a follower of one of the "moon gods" ie Lunitari...? Have I to draw power from these moons? I really dont know very much about Krynn... Thanks a lot
#2 ferratus Dec 30, 2003 14:34:54	Near as we can figure, there is a strong religious undercurrent to the Orders of High Sorcery, which functions as a sort of mystery cult. However, wizardry is wizardry and only depends on a wizard's knowledge and skill, not his devotion to the gods. That is why you can go renegade and forsake the orders and the moon gods, yet still cast wizard spells.
#3 Dragonhelm Dec 30, 2003 14:45:00	Basically, your wizard would still be able to cast spells. Once you get to the point to where you're casting 3rd-level spells or above, the Orders of High Sorcery will seek your character out. He then would have to take the Test, or be branded a renegade. As the FAQ mentions, you don't need to be a specialist to join the Orders of High Sorcery, but you lose the enhanced specialization class ability if you do.
#4 kipper_snifferdoo_02 Dec 30, 2003 16:40:50	Originally posted by Dragonhelm Basically, your wizard would still be able to cast spells. Once you get to the point to where you're casting 3rd-level spells or above, the Orders of High Sorcery will seek your character out. He then would have to take the Test, or be branded a renegade. Of course you need to take into account when your wizard arrives. If he arrives right after the War of Souls it is unlikely that he will be hunted any time soon. The Wizards are still trying to put their order back together at the moment. ;)
#5 zombiegleemax Dec 30, 2003 22:43:19	I always had a problem with the kind of magic and where the magic comes from when dealing with situations like this. In comparing the realms to Krynn I have always had a time ellapse for adjusting. Just because you have to channel the magic different and such at least that is how i always looked at it. Though nothing official was ever stated on the matter.
#6 talinthas Dec 31, 2003 0:19:45	wouldnt a faerunian wizard have problems beyond the moons? They draw their magic from a weave or something, and i'm gonna assume that mystra isnt too keen on leasing her magic outside of her zone of control.
#7 angelroble2 Dec 31, 2003 2:53:03	Originally posted by talinthas wouldnt a faerunian wizard have problems beyond the moons? They draw their magic from a weave or something, and i'm gonna assume that mystra isnt too keen on leasing her magic outside of her zone of control. Yes, I think Mystra gives access to magic, but... indeed, my character, though he came to Krynn from Toril, was born and teached in Mystara, where immortals ruled. You know, my char is a 3.5 conversion of a AD&D conversion of a D&D (1st ed) char. Any of you remember the adventure that came in the D&D DMG? Bargle the Wizard? Karameikos? I was only 11 years old, and he was my first char. That's why his name is "Gandulf el Vago" instead "Gandalf el Mago" (in spanish, both Gandul and Vago mean lazy, and Mago means Wizard). At that time, I thought it was a brilliant idea... Sorry, sorry, I know this is a Dragonlance forum...
#8 ferratus Dec 31, 2003 4:06:27	Originally posted by talinthas wouldnt a faerunian wizard have problems beyond the moons? They draw their magic from a weave or something, and i'm gonna assume that mystra isnt too keen on leasing her magic outside of her zone of control. Eh, they can always have an "epiphany" and just swap the levels out. It seems to be a pretty much instantaneous procedure. However, if we're dealing with crossovers, I think the best thing to assume is that magic and magical lore is the same everywhere, it just has different sources.
#9 cam_banks Dec 31, 2003 7:09:32	Originally posted by ferratus Eh, they can always have an "epiphany" and just swap the levels out. It seems to be a pretty much instantaneous procedure. Strictly speaking, it isn't quite instantaneous. You need to advance a level in the spellcasting class you intend to switch to before all of your other spellcaster levels convert over. But your comment about the universality of arcane magic does make the best sense given the circumstances. With the sheer amount of cross-development that seems to have taken place across all of the D&D worlds, from beholders and dragons to spell effects and magic items, one could assume that casting fireball is more or less the same from Krynn to Faerun to Oerth. Unless you want to make life difficult for the players. Cheers, Cam