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#1
zombiegleemax
Jan 02, 2004 16:07:21 Has anyone read Dragons of Vanishing Moon ?
#2
zombiegleemax
Jan 02, 2004 16:13:17 If you mean Dragons of a Vanished Moon then yes.
#3
zombiegleemax
Jan 02, 2004 16:50:52 It's OK, bit disappointing and the whole chapter with Soth is a joke and can be skipped.
#4
baron_the_curse
Jan 02, 2004 19:48:06 I thought it was cool that Lord Soth defied Takhisis at the end. He told a phantasm of his wife to go screw herself in Ravenloft when he was given a “third!” chance to redeem himself, so the “land of mist” spewed him back out to Krynn. At least that’s how it seemed. In either case, telling the Dragon Queen to go screw herself it’s very keeping with his attitude.
#5
zombiegleemax
Jan 02, 2004 22:18:02 It wasn't that I didn't like, it was the "I repent! I repent!" attitude he had. And two things about Spectre of the Black Rose:

1) It wasn't a phantasm, it WAS Isolde.

2) He didn't really tell her to go screw herself, his lands was acting out a grim parody of the cataclysm. Isolde wanted to make sure Soth had not forgotten his original sin.
#6
zombiegleemax
Jan 02, 2004 23:21:01
It wasn't that I didn't like, it was the "I repent! I repent!" attitude he had.

I really didn't get that vibe. I got that he was just sort of giving up on life/unlife in general. He was evil, but he was just tired of it all.
#7
zombiegleemax
Jan 03, 2004 0:02:52 I think he realized that Takhisis would never deliver on any of her promises. She never had before and didn't look any more honest as a monotheistic god.
#8
baron_the_curse
Jan 03, 2004 3:30:11
Originally posted by Drinnik Shoehorn
It wasn't that I didn't like, it was the "I repent! I repent!" attitude he had. And two things about Spectre of the Black Rose:

1) It wasn't a phantasm, it WAS Isolde.

2) He didn't really tell her to go screw herself, his lands was acting out a grim parody of the cataclysm. Isolde wanted to make sure Soth had not forgotten his original sin.

I don't think it was Isodel at all. I think it was the land tormenting him. And even if it was her, when he turn his back on his dying wife and child realizing the whole ordeal he went through was just to lead to that reenactment he pretty much told them screw you by walking away and not accepting a third chance at redemption.
#9
zombiegleemax
Jan 03, 2004 11:33:24
Originally posted by Baron the Curse
I don't think it was Isodel at all. I think it was the land tormenting him. And even if it was her, when he turn his back on his dying wife and child realizing the whole ordeal he went through was just to lead to that reenactment he pretty much told them screw you by walking away and not accepting a third chance at redemption.

The whole point of Spectre of the Black Rose is that Soth is forgetting everything. Isolde's plan was to make him remember his original damnation. Soth hadn't moved from his throne in Nedragaard Keep in nearly 15 years, the werebadger Azreal was ruling in his name.

Soth started to remember his past. Isolde forced him to remember what happened. What she was doing was seperate from the Dark Powers, she was in effect acting on behalf of the Krynnish gods. Soth turning away from her meant that his memory was whole again, that he remembered everything. The reason the Dark Powers allowed him to leave is unknown, but the popular theory is that he never gave into his curse, that he would forever search for Kitiara because a shade of her was claiming that she caused his corruption and Darklordship.

He even says at the end of Knight of the Black Rose "I caused my own doom, I forged my own damnation." Soth always accepted his crimes as his own, the Dark Powers wanted him to admit that this was not the case.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Jan 02, 2004 16:07:21	Has anyone read Dragons of Vanishing Moon ?
#2 zombiegleemax Jan 02, 2004 16:13:17	If you mean Dragons of a Vanished Moon then yes.
#3 zombiegleemax Jan 02, 2004 16:50:52	It's OK, bit disappointing and the whole chapter with Soth is a joke and can be skipped.
#4 baron_the_curse Jan 02, 2004 19:48:06	I thought it was cool that Lord Soth defied Takhisis at the end. He told a phantasm of his wife to go screw herself in Ravenloft when he was given a “third!” chance to redeem himself, so the “land of mist” spewed him back out to Krynn. At least that’s how it seemed. In either case, telling the Dragon Queen to go screw herself it’s very keeping with his attitude.
#5 zombiegleemax Jan 02, 2004 22:18:02	It wasn't that I didn't like, it was the "I repent! I repent!" attitude he had. And two things about Spectre of the Black Rose: 1) It wasn't a phantasm, it WAS Isolde. 2) He didn't really tell her to go screw herself, his lands was acting out a grim parody of the cataclysm. Isolde wanted to make sure Soth had not forgotten his original sin.
#6 zombiegleemax Jan 02, 2004 23:21:01	It wasn't that I didn't like, it was the "I repent! I repent!" attitude he had. I really didn't get that vibe. I got that he was just sort of giving up on life/unlife in general. He was evil, but he was just tired of it all.
#7 zombiegleemax Jan 03, 2004 0:02:52	I think he realized that Takhisis would never deliver on any of her promises. She never had before and didn't look any more honest as a monotheistic god.
#8 baron_the_curse Jan 03, 2004 3:30:11	Originally posted by Drinnik Shoehorn It wasn't that I didn't like, it was the "I repent! I repent!" attitude he had. And two things about Spectre of the Black Rose: 1) It wasn't a phantasm, it WAS Isolde. 2) He didn't really tell her to go screw herself, his lands was acting out a grim parody of the cataclysm. Isolde wanted to make sure Soth had not forgotten his original sin. I don't think it was Isodel at all. I think it was the land tormenting him. And even if it was her, when he turn his back on his dying wife and child realizing the whole ordeal he went through was just to lead to that reenactment he pretty much told them screw you by walking away and not accepting a third chance at redemption.
#9 zombiegleemax Jan 03, 2004 11:33:24	Originally posted by Baron the Curse I don't think it was Isodel at all. I think it was the land tormenting him. And even if it was her, when he turn his back on his dying wife and child realizing the whole ordeal he went through was just to lead to that reenactment he pretty much told them screw you by walking away and not accepting a third chance at redemption. The whole point of Spectre of the Black Rose is that Soth is forgetting everything. Isolde's plan was to make him remember his original damnation. Soth hadn't moved from his throne in Nedragaard Keep in nearly 15 years, the werebadger Azreal was ruling in his name. Soth started to remember his past. Isolde forced him to remember what happened. What she was doing was seperate from the Dark Powers, she was in effect acting on behalf of the Krynnish gods. Soth turning away from her meant that his memory was whole again, that he remembered everything. The reason the Dark Powers allowed him to leave is unknown, but the popular theory is that he never gave into his curse, that he would forever search for Kitiara because a shade of her was claiming that she caused his corruption and Darklordship. He even says at the end of Knight of the Black Rose "I caused my own doom, I forged my own damnation." Soth always accepted his crimes as his own, the Dark Powers wanted him to admit that this was not the case.