About Oerth (map question)

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#1

habronicus

Jan 03, 2004 12:55:48
I was wondering if anyone knows of a map that shows Oerth entirely?

Most Greyhawk maps cover the Flanaess only but I remember a book where it said that the Flanaess was only a small part of a big continent which streched beyond the Sea of Dust (all the way to the west and south).

Is there such a map or at least a description of other Oerth regions?
#2

zombiegleemax

Jan 03, 2004 12:58:24
I think there's an old map about whats to the West of the Sea of Dust. Other than that there's nothing on the rest of the world as far as I know except the LGG map includes outlines of the undescribed continents.
#3

zombiegleemax

Jan 03, 2004 16:53:21
Ahem,

http://www.greyhawkonline.com/canonfire/oerthlat1.jpg
#4

zombiegleemax

Jan 04, 2004 0:57:48
and for even more info check out this site. The map of Oerik with the labels is taken from an issue of Dragon as is the description
#5

zombiegleemax

Jan 05, 2004 1:36:21
Aren't both cites the same map??? Who cares!!!



Its a pretend world for goodness sake!!!
#6

habronicus

Jan 05, 2004 5:59:49
Thanks for the links, it's all good!

BTW, in the map taken from Dragon magazine, the northern continent is called Hyperboria. Maybe I'm confusing things, but isn't that the name of a continent from Conan the Barbarian?
#7

zombiegleemax

Jan 05, 2004 12:17:59
BTW, in the map taken from Dragon magazine, the northern continent is called Hyperboria. Maybe I'm confusing things, but isn't that the name of a continent from Conan the Barbarian?

I think the Conan one was called Hyboria.
#8

zombiegleemax

Jan 05, 2004 18:39:16
Originally posted by rostoff
Aren't both cites the same map??? Who cares!!!



Its a pretend world for goodness sake!!!

No they're aren't actually, and evidently the person who started this thread cares
#9

zombiegleemax

Jan 06, 2004 13:20:23
Does anyone know what the applicable scale for any of the Oerth or Flanaess maps are?
#10

zombiegleemax

Jan 07, 2004 16:27:10
Hey Advocatus. Which map do you have? Most specify their scales.

Each hex of the old Darlene maps (included in the 1983 boxed set and From the Ashes) measured 30 miles. The map included with the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer measures 65 miles per hex.

Folks who are really interested in this subject may wish to refer to two early Oerth Journal articles:

Gary Holian, "Measuring Up Oerth," Oerth Journal issue 4, pages 8-11 (August 10th 1996); and Roger E. Moore, "The Good Oerth: Oerth from the Ground Up," Oerth Journal issue 3, pages 22-26 (March 20th 1996).

Peace!
#11

zombiegleemax

Jan 07, 2004 18:30:35
Exactly what I needed Tizoc. Thanks very much!
#12

zombiegleemax

Jan 07, 2004 18:48:27
Excellent!

I am, "at your service."
#13

grodog

Jan 12, 2004 0:09:39
Originally posted by Habronicus
BTW, in the map taken from Dragon magazine, the northern continent is called Hyperboria. Maybe I'm confusing things, but isn't that the name of a continent from Conan the Barbarian?

Actually, Howard used both Hyperboria and Hyboria in his Conan stories. From A Gazeteer of The Hyborian World of Conan complied by Lee Falconer:

Hyborian Kingdoms: Aquilonia, Nemedia, Brythunia, Hyperborea, Koth, Ophir, Argos, Corinthia, and Border Kingdom--nations tracing their ancestry to the Hybori ["a tribe of unknown origin led into the Far North at the time of the Cataclysm by a legendary chief, Bori"]. Some scholars include Zingara in the group.

Hyperborea: a northeastern kingdom situated east of Asgard, west of Turan, and norht of Brythunia and the Border Kingdom....

These usages derive from hyperborean meaning "northern" in myth and fables that date back to the ancient Greeks IIRC. The OED says:

hyperborean, a. and n.

A. adj.

1. Of, pertaining to, or characterizing the extreme north of the earth, or (colloq. or humorously) of a particular country; in ethnological use, cf. B.

1591 SYLVESTER Du Bartas I. v. 635 Gray-beard Boreas..Is prisoned close in th' Hyper-Borean Cave. 1633 C. BUTLER Eng. Gram. (L.), Northern Isles; as Groenland, Freesland, Iseland, etc., even to the hyperborean or frozen sea.

b. Of or pertaining to the fabled Hyperboreans.

1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 398 The Hyperborean [nation], which..dwell in an Iland in the Ocean neere unto the Pole. 1806 R. FELLOWES tr. Milton's 2nd Def. (1848) I. 272 Some hyperborean and fabled hero, decorated with all the shewy varnish of imposture.

2. (nonce-use.) Surpassing that of the north wind.

1859 THACKERAY Virgin. lxxix, He blew a hyperborean whistle, as if to blow his wrath away.

B. n. An inhabitant of the extreme north of the earth; in pl. members of an ethnological group of Arctic races. loosely and fig. One who lives in a northerly clime.
In Greek legend the Hyperboreans were a happy people who lived in a land of perpetual sunshine and plenty beyond the north wind.

1601 HOLLAND Pliny I. 121 Certain people..not much vn~ like in their maner of life to the Hyperboreans. 1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 395 Next to these both in place and credit, we may reckon the Hyperboreans.

Hence hyperboreanism (nonce-wd.), an extreme northernism.

1824 DE QUINCEY Goethe Wks. 1863 XII. 207 note, ‘Just’..[in ‘we must just put up with it’], is a Hyperboreanism, and still intelligible in some provinces.

Enjoy! :D
#14

habronicus

Jan 13, 2004 11:20:33
Hmm... great stuff. I'm getting this weird idea of combining Conan and Greyhawk all into one :D

Maybe Mordenkainen will get mad and someone will hire Conan to kill him