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#1 zombiegleemax Jan 12, 2004 14:34:14	hi people of the forum..... i´ve just finished reading the third book of the saga... and got a doubt that perhaps someone here can clear for me..... in the crimson legion.... rikus is mistaken for borys, the last living champion of rajaat by the remaining ones... all of them ghosts, right ? But in "the enchantress..." the king of nibenay results to be one of the champions... as well as both those floating heads that instruct Tithian.... is there an explanation for this... or just the author´s lack of memory concerning his own writtings ???
#2 nytcrawlr Jan 12, 2004 14:44:33	Originally posted by Usul in the crimson legion.... rikus is mistaken for borys, the last living champion of rajaat by the remaining ones... all of them ghosts, right ? A) They are wraiths, not ghosts B) Those were followers of Borys, not the actual champions themselves. But in "the enchantress..." the king of nibenay results to be one of the champions... as well as both those floating heads that instruct Tithian.... is there an explanation for this... or just the author´s lack of memory concerning his own writtings ??? Nope, Nibenay, as well as the two floating heads Sacha and Wyan are all former champions.
#3 zombiegleemax Jan 12, 2004 14:52:46	sounds confussing... but tnx anyway
#4 dawnstealer Jan 12, 2004 16:33:38	This might help (available at many spots on the web): 1 Sacha Kobolds Beheaded None (Tyr 1) 2 Kalak Ogres MD 25 (Dead 2) Tyr 3 Dregoth Giants Undead MD 29 New Giustenal 4 Myron 3/Hamanu Trolls MD 21 (23 4) Urik 5 Uyness (Abalach-Re 5) Orcs FD 21 (Dead 2) Raam 6 Gallard (Nibenay 5) Gnomes MD 23 (24 4) Nibenay 7 Sielba Pterrans Dead Yaramuke 8 Albeorn (Andropinis 5) Elves MD 21 (Imprisoned 6) Balic 9 Tectuktlitlay Wemics MD 22 (Dead 6) Draj 10 Keltis (Oronis 5) Lizard Man MA 24 Kurn 11 Lalali-Puy Aarakocras FD 21 (23 2) Gulg 12 Wyan Pixies Beheaded None (Tyr 1) 13 Borys Dwarves MD 30 (Dead 2) Ur Draxa 14 Daskinor Goblins MD 22 Eldaarich 15 Kalid-Ma Taris In Ravenloft Kalidnay Nibenay is #6 and those two floating heads are #s 1 & 12. Hope that helps.
#5 bengeldorn Jan 12, 2004 17:15:50	Remember the conversation Sadira had with Dhojakt at the Pristine Tower? There Dhojakt told Sadira that the Champions of Rajaat transformed Borys in a dragon an as they had finished it, every champion claimed a City of Athas and became a SK...
#6 Grummore Jan 12, 2004 17:59:19	Usul, this may not be the exact thing you are looking for, but I have a pdf regarding all Rajaat Champion in the Misc. section of my web site (link in my sign).
#7 Pennarin Jan 12, 2004 19:03:07	Hey, nice name, Usul! The wraiths in that fortress in the middle of the desert were the followers of Borys, the 13th champion, who at one time departed from his battles against the dwarves and never came back. His appearence is highly changeable, he is immortal and posessed a magical sword, so when the wraiths see Rikus with it they believe its their master come back to them. As for the concept that he was the 'last' champion...well, what did it sound to you when you read it? Last champion alive or last champion to have been created? (they are referred to as 'the 13 champions' afterall). If this info is not satisfactory, just write in code: //requestdata-serverx01 ->[interface::comprehensibleavatar] and remember you can get the interface in any of ten beautiful colors and that these members are not real people but programs, or as we like to call ourselves, better-than-people: we don't sleep, we answer right away and its always right.
#8 zombiegleemax Jan 15, 2004 11:46:09	Usul, weren't you the 22nd Champion of Rajaat, you know Beholder Doom. Love the name, would love to incorporate it in my Athasian world, whats your favorite character and location? I love to add flavor to my Athas. Characters, places, faces, goals