Children of the Gods
Ariakan, mortal son of Zeboim and Ariakas, founder of the Knights of Takhisis
Artha, daughter of Takhisis and Hiddukel (who disguised himself as Chemosh for the encounter), evil goddess of lust and greed, born in 333ac, her preferred avatar is an obese toad woman who smells of rotten meat and dresses in black rags, her favorite spells include animating skeletons of all sizes into exploding undead beasts as well as animating the skeletons of live people, likes to use undead beasts, eyewings and amphi-dragons as lackeys, constructed great treasure domes throughout Krynn and filled them with treasure looted during the War of the Lance.
Jiathuli, daughter of Takhisis, Princess of the Abyss, Handmaiden of Takhisis, evil goddess of drow and spiders, creator of the Deathdark, Spider Dragons, Curotai, Driders and Undead Driders. Has drow spies throughout Krynn. Preferred avatars include a female drow of dark breathtaking beauty and a giant spider. She was cursed by Takhisis and banished to the Deathdark and trapped in her spider form for attempting to usurp her mother. It is believed she has since broken free of the curse.
Malfesus, offspring of Takhisis and Hiddukel, favors Hiddukel, likes to use hobgoblins as lackeys. Preferred avatar is a giant snake beast with three serpent heads with human mouths and a pair of forelimbs tipped with four-talon claws.
There are some others as well
Bast the immortal, I forget a lot of his details he appears in Brothers Majere and History of Dragonlance. He would tend towards neutral I think.
As for good, I don't think any demigods have ever been mentioned. There is a person who claimed to be Huma's son, making him half-dragon. That could be a good choice.
As well any heroic character could be raised. I would suggest Waylorn Wyvernsbane. He was a druid awaken by the heroes of the lance in the modules. He was from Huma's time and put himself to sleep to battle hiw beloved that turned evil and threatened to return one day. He is believed to have fought in both the War of the Lance and the Summer of Chaos. He died recently and his spirit guards a tower in Qualinest.
Artha... evil goddess of lust and greed... her preferred avatar is an obese toad woman who smells of rotten meat and dresses in black rags, her favorite spells include animating skeletons of all sizes into exploding undead beasts as well as animating the skeletons of live people, likes to use undead beasts, eyewings and amphi-dragons as lackeys...
Firstly, greed is covered by Hiddukel. Secondly, lust is covered by Sirrion. then, why does a goddess of lust appear as incredibly ugly? Why does a goddess of lust and greed like undead so much?
Finally, drow have no god in DL, due to there being no drow in DL. Although there are some evil elves, there are not a subspecies of them. The elves were the beloved of the good gods, the evil gods had ogres. If you're worried about balance, be worried that there aren't enough good races in the world, and don't want more evil - the evil races already there are more than enough to play with, you don't need to add more.
This is all just fun for home campaigns, totally non-canon.
True drow on Krynn are always from another world or plane. Jiathuli and her drow appeared in the adventure Wild Elves and an undead drider gave her a mention in New Tales: The Land Reborn.
While I agree its all non-canon, the explanation is that these drow can shapeshift into the form of other elves and so have infiltrated elf communities all over Ansalon. Their home is a pocket dimension that Jiathuli controls the entrance to. It is reasonable that they have remained hidden just like the Irda and the Scions.
Plus some sources say that Highlord Feal-Thas was an oddly dark skinned elf. hmmmm.
Originally posted by SageofKaolyn
Some people have questioned how the balance is maintained while Gilean is still a god. Not sure my opinion on it, but Gilean sure got a sweet deal.
And then there's the little conspiracy theory that Gilean was secretly orchestrating the events that led him to be the number one god, starting from when he, disguised as another god, convinced Reorx to craft the Graygem. Now he can 'maintain the balance' all the wants. ;)
Originally posted by jonesy
And then there's the little conspiracy theory that Gilean was secretly orchestrating the events that led him to be the number one god, starting from when he, disguised as another god, convinced Reorx to craft the Graygem. Now he can 'maintain the balance' all the wants. ;)
Yes!!!!! Its all becoming very clear now.
Originally posted by darthsylver
You know considering Sargonnas was supposed to be Takhisis's consort, she did have quite a few children with Hiddukel.
I just want to know if Ariakan called Sargonnas grandpappy.
As for the 'Gilean Imbalance', I'm of the theory that the imbalance to neutrality was doubly intentional.
Reason 1: By Paladine dropping down, it forces Takhisis to drop down. However without Gilean dropping, the need for a return to balance would allow both Paladine and Takhisis to reclaim their positions. In short, the gods only wanted to scare the $#!+ out of Takhisis and also gain themselves enough time to re-establish themselves on the world (since Takhisis had a head-start). Takhisis' death however was COMPLETELY unintentional. On that matter, the deities screwed up. (Hence their over sensitivity on the issue of protecting Her resting site.)
Reason 2: With everything completely out of order right now, the world is very chaotic. With Neutrality having a domination, hopefully during the time of the 'Descension', the stronger Neutral Divine influence on the world would act as a stabilizing force to calm everything down. As has been noted on this board previously, "Holy Crap. How much does this world have to go through within only 100-450 years!?!" Of the three factions of the gods, Neutrality would be the least distracted and the most focused on applying Law over the Chaos.
But now Takhisis is dead. Personally I believe the Gods are secretly (AND DESPERATELY) trying to figure a way to resurrect Takhisis. The precidence of one of their number dying is something I highly doubt they want to keep, especially since it was due to their own error. Because otherwise, we may be seeing the third of a series of dominations. The three being: (1) Evil coming just short of taking over the world during the Third Dragon War. (2) Good coming just short of taking over the world during Beldyn's reign as Kingpriest. And now (3) Neutrality having a dominance in the pantheon with one evil god dead and a good god stranded.
In short, Krynn is heading for trouble. And looking at the problems in the past as example, I give it 40-100 years before the Neutral Domination comes to a head and something massive happens.
As for evil....well, I don't really see Takhisis ever being returned to power. She was an awful leader for the evil gods, and was too overcome by her own lust for power in the end. Sargonnos will be much better, in my opinion....leaders need to be someone you can trust....after a fashion. The only way Takhisis would ever be returned to power is as a much weaker incarnation. At least, restored by the current Patheon. I could see Chaos restoring her and convincing her to join him (she has no other potential allies). An interesting dynamic that would make.
-Drachasor
As for Takhisis coming back... no. Not at all. She's too busy being shipped from the realm of one evil god to another. Let's see, on top of stealing the world... Sargonnas: leaving him (and to a lesser extent their children, and to an even lesser extent their allies) behind; Nuitari: too many to name, but usurping High Sorcery for the Thorn Knights and helping to reintroduce Primal Sorcery into the world are right up there; Zeboim: allowing her only son (the one being she truly loved) to be killed; Chemosh: horning in on his territory; Morgion: can't think of anything specific; Hiddukel: see above re. Morgion. In fact, if somebody told me that the Gods of Darkness form the occasional conga line right over her grave, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
As for matters of primacy: 6:7:6 has a certain symmetry, but 7:7:7 probably works better. I think that Gilean is devoted to the Balance above all else, so he will work for Good and for Evil when it is neccessary for the Balance to endure. Sargonnas will take primacy of the Dark Pantheon. As for the Bright Pantheon, it's a toss-up between Mishakal or Majere, but I favour Mishakal, as she would have the support of her three children.
If the Pantheons ever do decide to restore the numeric balance, I don't see Paladine being re-ascended unless Takhisis is as well. Even if his powers are curtailed, he will still be what he is: eldest child of the High God, with the experience to match. The gods of Darkness would never allow that to happen unless they got Takhisis back, and they would do just about anything to keep the b!tch in the ground (hey- even the dragons, the only beings she could be said to respect, turned their backs on her at the end), so Paladine's not coming back, barring an act of the High God. So, replacements will need to be found. Mishakal will be faithful to her husband, so there won't be any new gods from her, so a new god would be called from Beyond, or else a mortal will be risen. Candidates include Huma, Heart, Goldmoon, and Crysania. As for the evil gods, Zeboim might, might, be persuaded to have a kid with Hiddukel (Sargonnas and Nuitari are out for obvious reasons, and I don't picture her willingly getting involved with Morgion or Chemosh- or willingly going anywhere near either of them, for that matter). A new god could be called from Beyond. Candidates for a risen mortal include Kitiara, Khellendros, and Ariakan.
Myself, I've also got a "godly" rebalance plot in the works in case Sovereign Press goes under (they probably got their own plans to address this). I myself would elevate two goddesses. One would be a goddess of madness and discord, who would keep the gods from uniting under a common banner again or allowing permanent peace over the world of Krynn. For the side of good, I figured that Paladine and Mishakal were far-seeing enough to predict the possible rise of a diety of evil. Thus, Mishakal is keeping a child from Paladine in her womb, to be awoken when the balance is 6-7-7. ;)