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#1zombiegleemaxJan 22, 2004 0:21:59 | Obviously the Blood War is a major part of the Planes, raging across them as it ebbs and flows. It occupies much of the activates of the fiends of the Lower Planes, especially the Baatezu and Tanar’ri. I have heard it mentioned that the Blood War has actually momentary stoped a few times due to certain events. I was just wondering if anyone know about major events of the Blood War, like these times where it has stoped shortly, or when major (or minor) victories have been one by one side or the other. For instance, one of the layers of the Abyss was invaded by the Baatezu at one stage (but a can’t remember which one). |
#2Shemeska_the_MarauderJan 22, 2004 1:05:36 | "From the archives beneath the Tower of the Arcanaloths, Gehenna. As spoken by his lordship, Helekanalaith the Keeper of the Tower, such is an accurate accounting of the War Eternal: (the coming of the Baernaloths, the birth of the Yugoloths, the casting down of Apomps, and the creation of the Tanar'ri and Baatezu have been excluded) The first recorded pause of the Blood War as witnessed by my own eyes, at the time under the patronage and discipleship of my love Larsdana Apt Neut, was also the first recorded entry into the war of the hosts of the upper planes. From Celestia belched forth an army of millions of Archons and Aasimon, deluded and convinced of their own victory by their false ideals and baseless morals. For one year, two months and nine days the battle raged upon the plains of Oinos under the shadow of the Wasting Tower as all three sides of the war slaughtered each other without end. (See my attached footnotes into the capture and subsequent torture of numerous Aasimon) At that point just past a year with our subtle hand deep into the hearts of the fiendish host we paused their raging, their numbers thinned enough for future purposes and turned their hate towards our enemies. The celestials were butchered. Of their millions, I estimate that only 3,532 survived. (See the appendix on information gleaned from the bottled souls of the fallen Archons captured upon Oinos before they fled for Celestia) The war thus resumed its previous course and my notes and likewise my own education resumed as well. .... The second recorded pause was for reasons not entirely of our own forsight and devising. However I have reason to believe that hands higher than mine or even that of The General may have turned out attentions towards the mortal Illithids. (See appendix 547c for information on the souls of Illithids and their uses) The wisdom of the Baern, the Gloom Fathers runs deeper than my mind may yet encompass. Were I capable of worship I would revere them as divine. .... The third pause in the progress of the great experiment was again, something that I suspect was at the silent prodding of the Baernaloths. (Evidence towards this end, and other potential explanations is located in appendix 653r. To those not within my own council in the Tower or of Ultraloth status or higher, the information is unreadable). But to the point, the third pause in the war are those events that transpired at Ghoresh Chasm in the Waste as well as the 'claimed' swallowing of one of our citadels in the opening of the chasm. The ruins were prepared quite convincingly and neither Baatezu nor Tanar'ri are yet aware of the fact that we had previously attempted to open the seal by ourselves. We were not successful yet it whispers to us still, haunting us with knowledge meant only for our ears but out of reach perhaps till the experiment is completed and the other fiends are once again firmly within our control. Much has been promised to us. However our tasks for our progenitors are not yet complete, and until that day the hidden vaults beneath the chasm will remain locked to us. (See appendix 3943d for speculation upon the nature of the whispering vault beneath Ghoresh Chasm)" *cough* "As much as I find the Keeper of the tower an arrogant windbag he does keep good records. He lacks my sophistication and refinement. But take his notes for what you will, I simply provide them to you to ponder. And remember, why would I lie?" [Derived from the History of the War in the Hellbound Box set] |
#3zombiegleemaxJan 22, 2004 9:04:16 | The Abyssal layer that was invaded by the Baatezu early in the Blood War is Blood Tor. Thanks Shemeska for that monstrous replay. But what about other important events in the War Eternal. Major victories and losses? I have heard someone rattling there bonebox about how the events of Dead Gods intensified the fighting. Was there something that happened in Dead Gods that played a role in the Blood War? If the Doomguard are to utilize the War to spread entropy, I need to know more about what has happened before. |
#4Shemeska_the_MarauderJan 22, 2004 10:26:14 | Oh there's more, tons more, I just decided to go to bed last night rather than keep typing. At some point later today if nobody else does so first I'll post some more stuff. |
#5joni-sanJan 22, 2004 11:20:37 | Ah, Shemeska, or most wonderfull and glorious Yugoloth. I'm most curious in what the Illithids (also known as "Mind Flayers" amongst clueless) have done to gain enogh interest to warant a pause in the eternal stugle of the blood war. If you may be so kind as to explain to your companions here who don't know as much as you do about these matters, there will be reward waiting for you in the form of the finest lower planar wine. |
#6zombiegleemaxJan 22, 2004 13:11:06 | Events in Dead Gods intensified the fighting, to a point. The main adventure deals with Orcus' resurection (as Tenebrous). When the word gets out, the Tanar'ri are sure that with such a powerful Abyssal Lord back on their side, they were sure to finally crush the cursed lawful fiends. So they fought harder, giving all they had. But their logic was, well, Tanar'ric. Orcus never much cared for the bloodwar. And when he came back, he had plenty to do on his agenda. Too bad, I guess... |
#7primemover003Jan 22, 2004 14:36:23 | The Illithids once had a plane-spanning empire that stretched across mulitple primes and the Astral. At one point their empire was so powerful, the fiends decided to push back Mind flayer encroachments on the Lower Planes. Before the massive slave uprising lead by Gith (and Zerthimon) the Illithid Empire was a force to be reckoned with. |
#8zombiegleemaxJan 22, 2004 23:35:51 | Did it actually go that far? I know the illithids were big enough that the blood war paused so either side could take stock of the situation, but I wasn't aware the fiends and mind flayers actually started trading blows. |
#9Shemeska_the_MarauderJan 23, 2004 0:14:58 | As far as I know, the Illithids never actually encroached upon the outer planes. Just the fact that they had spanned multiple prime worlds and infested the Astral, and reached out into the Ethereal. The fiends didn't join forces or ever actually battle the Illithids, but they did pause to consider the Illithids briefly as another player on the planes at large. Apparently they didn't deem it a threat, or the Gith rebellion happened soon enough to make it a null issue. You have to wonder if the Illithids did have any outer planar influence to instigate that pause, or if at any point the fiends had dealings with them (primarily the 'loths in order to make sure there was no disturbance to their little 'experiment' on the lower planes, or just to PO Illsensine or Maanzicorian). It's an area that could have a TON of development, the planes during the height of Penumbra etc. (If I'm wrong on anything here please correct me, I don't have a copy of the Illithiad handy) |
#10primemover003Jan 23, 2004 14:40:09 | Well Shemeska, I'm sure there was no large scale battles as there was against the Celestial hosts, but I'll bet my Seeker's badge that the Tanar'ri or Baatezu attacked a few Illithid outposts or vise versa... Just because a state of open warfare isn't declared or recognized by the opposing sides doesn't mean there hasnb't been serious covert action. "Though a Pit Fiends brain is a spicy treat, I prefer Amnizu chilled under glass." -from the memoirs of Zzzith'alorr, Ulitharid Grand Marshal of the Tamer creed. |
#11Shemeska_the_MarauderJan 23, 2004 15:31:51 | *nodding* Very likely there has, and as I mentioned before it would be an interesting time period to expand upon. Though don't read too much into that statement, I don't have any ideas in that direction on my plate at the moment, nor has anyone else over at Planewalker raised it. Any ideas or such I'd be curious to read them. |