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Dragon rider help

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#1
zombiegleemax
Jan 23, 2004 10:52:39 Hello all:

I am not new to D&D, but I have never played in the dragon lance setting. Only one friend from my group has actually ever played a game in this setting. We are starting a new game with this tonight and I wanted to be a dragon rider.

Originally i was gonna be a character that would ride the dragon and fire arrows. being some combo of Ranger/Fighter, maybe some paladin.

After thinking a bit at work for the past hour instead of doing my work i thought that was a little un original and i wanted to do something more not the norm.

I came up with the bard dragon rider. not much fighting, but singing and playing to make my dragon more of a bopper.

anyone have any thoughts on this? I know the BaB bonus will slow my entry to the class. i really would do it, it's just 15 levels is a lot before i actually get in my PrC. maybe a multi class with some fighter?

Just looking for some vets of this setting to throw me any advice about anything they may have done.

thanks in advance,
chris
#2
zombiegleemax
Jan 23, 2004 11:04:17 You can multiclass and do all of that, but you can also play a small race. They can have younger dragon mounts which you can have as cohorts after level 9 I think, using the leadership feat.

That way you can actually be riding dragons before you are an actual Dragonrider. The act of riding dragons can be done, just like riding horses, without actually being a member of the prestige class. Fizban, Tasselhoff, Flint, and most of the other Hero's of the Lance rode dragons without actually being Dragonriders.

I think that the prestige class is more for a military application for fighters and knights, just to be used for an elite fighting force, strike team, etc.

Bottom line, if you want to ride dragons then ride them, you don't need the PrC.
#3
zombiegleemax
Jan 23, 2004 11:15:47 Ok right, you can get a dragon quicker because as a smaller PC I'll be able to ride on a smaller dragon which gives me a lower ECL level for my cohort.

then i can always go into the class later if i choose.

right on,

I was under the impression that you had to be dragon rider to ride dragons. i didn't realize that you can do it the leadership way as in any other setting.

thanks
#4
agent_malucci_dup
Jan 23, 2004 16:40:37 You could also look at the Dragon Cohort feat from the Draconomicon. I don't know the particulars, but as i understand it it is an easier way to get a dragon than the Dragonrider class. Also, i recommend kender if you do go Dragonrider, it saves you the fear immunity feat. I only say that because my current kender is almost to the Dragonrider point.
AM
#5
zombiegleemax
Jan 26, 2004 10:09:12
You could also look at the Dragon Cohort feat from the Draconomicon. I don't know the particulars, but as i understand it it is an easier way to get a dragon than the Dragonrider class. Also, i recommend kender if you do go Dragonrider, it saves you the fear immunity feat. I only say that because my current kender is almost to the Dragonrider point.

Thanks for the Info. Don't have the draconomicon, but maybe it's something i will look into getting.

I looked at the Kender, but was unimpressed and found myself just wanting to be a regular halfling instead of that annoying little kiddie. ;)

I spent a large part of the weekend drawing up a character and concept with my group and DM. Rolled 4D6 no rerolls and got a 17, 16, 16, 13, 12, 12. Naturally I was very impressed. I went with: 17 CHA, 16 DEX, 16 INT, 13 STR, 12 CON, 12 WIS

So Far came out with this progression and feat choices:

Neutral Good - Half Elf - Bard8/Fighter4/Dragon Rider...

1st - Bard - Skill Focus (Perform)
2nd - Bard
3rd - Bard - Mounted Combat
4th - Fighter - Resist Dragon Fear
5th - Bard
6th - Bard - Leadership
7th - Bard
8th - Fighter - Ride By attack
9th - Fighter - Spirited Charge & Tremendous Charge
10th - Bard
11th - Fighter - (Not sure)
12th - Bard - (something for the bard maybe out of S&S splat book)
13th - Dragon Rider

The gold and red dragon can carry a medium sized PC at ECL 13. later on i can dismiss him and get a silver that can carry me which was originally what I wanted.

The fighter gives me the Extra Feats and the Handle Animal and Ride as in class skills. I have a 16 INT so 4 levels gives me enough points to meet the prereqs.

I'll either shoot back into bard for one level at some point (inspire greatness) or take only 2 lvls of fighter, 9 lvls of bard and 2 of ranger or some other PrC/class that gives me Ride and HA. This delays me one level later on the dragon rider b/c of BaB, but who's counting?

Any sugesstions?

Thanx,
Chris

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#1 zombiegleemax Jan 23, 2004 10:52:39	Hello all: I am not new to D&D, but I have never played in the dragon lance setting. Only one friend from my group has actually ever played a game in this setting. We are starting a new game with this tonight and I wanted to be a dragon rider. Originally i was gonna be a character that would ride the dragon and fire arrows. being some combo of Ranger/Fighter, maybe some paladin. After thinking a bit at work for the past hour instead of doing my work i thought that was a little un original and i wanted to do something more not the norm. I came up with the bard dragon rider. not much fighting, but singing and playing to make my dragon more of a bopper. anyone have any thoughts on this? I know the BaB bonus will slow my entry to the class. i really would do it, it's just 15 levels is a lot before i actually get in my PrC. maybe a multi class with some fighter? Just looking for some vets of this setting to throw me any advice about anything they may have done. thanks in advance, chris
#2 zombiegleemax Jan 23, 2004 11:04:17	You can multiclass and do all of that, but you can also play a small race. They can have younger dragon mounts which you can have as cohorts after level 9 I think, using the leadership feat. That way you can actually be riding dragons before you are an actual Dragonrider. The act of riding dragons can be done, just like riding horses, without actually being a member of the prestige class. Fizban, Tasselhoff, Flint, and most of the other Hero's of the Lance rode dragons without actually being Dragonriders. I think that the prestige class is more for a military application for fighters and knights, just to be used for an elite fighting force, strike team, etc. Bottom line, if you want to ride dragons then ride them, you don't need the PrC.
#3 zombiegleemax Jan 23, 2004 11:15:47	Ok right, you can get a dragon quicker because as a smaller PC I'll be able to ride on a smaller dragon which gives me a lower ECL level for my cohort. then i can always go into the class later if i choose. right on, I was under the impression that you had to be dragon rider to ride dragons. i didn't realize that you can do it the leadership way as in any other setting. thanks
#4 agent_malucci_dup Jan 23, 2004 16:40:37	You could also look at the Dragon Cohort feat from the Draconomicon. I don't know the particulars, but as i understand it it is an easier way to get a dragon than the Dragonrider class. Also, i recommend kender if you do go Dragonrider, it saves you the fear immunity feat. I only say that because my current kender is almost to the Dragonrider point. AM
#5 zombiegleemax Jan 26, 2004 10:09:12	You could also look at the Dragon Cohort feat from the Draconomicon. I don't know the particulars, but as i understand it it is an easier way to get a dragon than the Dragonrider class. Also, i recommend kender if you do go Dragonrider, it saves you the fear immunity feat. I only say that because my current kender is almost to the Dragonrider point. Thanks for the Info. Don't have the draconomicon, but maybe it's something i will look into getting. I looked at the Kender, but was unimpressed and found myself just wanting to be a regular halfling instead of that annoying little kiddie. ;) I spent a large part of the weekend drawing up a character and concept with my group and DM. Rolled 4D6 no rerolls and got a 17, 16, 16, 13, 12, 12. Naturally I was very impressed. I went with: 17 CHA, 16 DEX, 16 INT, 13 STR, 12 CON, 12 WIS So Far came out with this progression and feat choices: Neutral Good - Half Elf - Bard8/Fighter4/Dragon Rider... 1st - Bard - Skill Focus (Perform) 2nd - Bard 3rd - Bard - Mounted Combat 4th - Fighter - Resist Dragon Fear 5th - Bard 6th - Bard - Leadership 7th - Bard 8th - Fighter - Ride By attack 9th - Fighter - Spirited Charge & Tremendous Charge 10th - Bard 11th - Fighter - (Not sure) 12th - Bard - (something for the bard maybe out of S&S splat book) 13th - Dragon Rider The gold and red dragon can carry a medium sized PC at ECL 13. later on i can dismiss him and get a silver that can carry me which was originally what I wanted. The fighter gives me the Extra Feats and the Handle Animal and Ride as in class skills. I have a 16 INT so 4 levels gives me enough points to meet the prereqs. I'll either shoot back into bard for one level at some point (inspire greatness) or take only 2 lvls of fighter, 9 lvls of bard and 2 of ranger or some other PrC/class that gives me Ride and HA. This delays me one level later on the dragon rider b/c of BaB, but who's counting? Any sugesstions? Thanx, Chris