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#1 daedavias_dup Jan 24, 2004 15:53:36	Is it possible for a sorceror to change to a wizard with levels in the Wizard of High Sorcery prestige class, given that they have taken the test? For example, character becomes a sorceror during the early Age of Mortals. Say they become a 7th level sorceror. Then, after the War of Souls occurs, they decide to devote themselves to the Orders of High Sorcery, taking the Test of High Sorcery. They then convert some of their sorceror levels to wizard. The question I have is whether or not the character must convert all their levels of sorceror into wizard or if they can choose to change only four levels to wizard, and the other three into levels in the Wizard of High Sorcery prestige class (given that they meet the prerequisites, of course)?
#2 cam_banks Jan 24, 2004 16:45:09	Originally posted by Daedavias The question I have is whether or not the character must convert all their levels of sorceror into wizard or if they can choose to change only four levels to wizard, and the other three into levels in the Wizard of High Sorcery prestige class (given that they meet the prerequisites, of course)? That's up to the individual DM, but no character who has had an epiphany and converted sorcerer levels to wizard levels should have any Wizard of High Sorcery levels under their belt. Those must be earned, and they cannot be earned before the character is a wizard. An exception would be a former Wizard of High Sorcery who, during the Age of Mortals, lost his power and converted to sorcerer and is now attempting to regain his powers as a wizard with the return of the Gods of Magic. In such an instance, a DM might allow them to regain their previous levels of Wizard of High Sorcery, or he may not - the reason being that 40 years without the blessings of the Orders and their divine patrons has cost them those benefits. Remember, according to the rules of changing focus, a character must in effect multiclass for a short time as the class they intend to convert their old levels to. This is the only instance where one can be both a cleric and a mystic or a sorcerer and a wizard, and generally the newer class trumps the older one (thus rendering the character unable to access spells from his old class for the duration). Cheers, Cam
#3 daedavias_dup Jan 24, 2004 17:00:23	Originally posted by Cam Banks That's up to the individual DM, but no character who has had an epiphany and converted sorcerer levels to wizard levels should have any Wizard of High Sorcery levels under their belt. Those must be earned, and they cannot be earned before the character is a wizard. That is the exact answer I was looking for. Seeing as I am the DM, I guess I have final say in my game. I do agree that a epiphany should not yield Wizard of High Sorcery levels, since the character is still, in effect, a novice WoHS, regardless of their actual wizard level after the epiphany. Which leads me to my next statement. I find it kind of odd that a character who changes from a 5th level sorceror to a 5th level wizard and then takes the WoHS prestige class has more versatility than a character that progresses to 4th level wizard and then takes two levels of WoHS. This goes beyond the whole issue of specialization. For the purpose of this example, let's assume it is a generalist. It stems from the issue of bonus feats. A fourth level wizard would have to spend one of their character feats on one of the metamagic or item creation feats to meet the requirements for the PrC. The epiphany wizard would not have to do so, since the wizard class would yield a bonus metamagic feat. Essentially, the epiphany wizard would gain a free feat out of the transition. I wouldn't call this a mechanical error, it is just an interesting way to go about doing things.