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#1 Grummore Jan 29, 2004 10:00:20	1- At athas.org (or any community fan) does anyone as created a list of the creatures and athasian creatures a druid can summon? Is there a list done? 2- I would like to hear though or fact that happened in your campaign about ex-cleric, and how they managed to loose their spells or warned that they could loose their abilities. In facts, what could cause a cleric to loose the support of is element?
#2 nytcrawlr Jan 29, 2004 12:12:03	Originally posted by Grummore 1- At athas.org (or any community fan) does anyone as created a list of the creatures and athasian creatures a druid can summon? Is there a list done? There will be a list in ToA.
#3 jihun-nish Jan 29, 2004 20:17:21	Originally posted by Grummore 2- I would like to hear though or fact that happened in your campaign about ex-cleric, and how they managed to loose their spells or warned that they could loose their abilities. In facts, what could cause a cleric to loose the support of is element? The only way I can think of is... 1--The related element(in the Athasian inner plane) is dying: it could happen in the slice evantuality that an other element is ovewelming the first. (Athasian inner planes are quite different from other wolrds.) 2--The said cleric as anguered its element for X reason.
#4 Grummore Jan 30, 2004 23:47:13	Originally posted by Jihun-Nish 2--The said cleric as anguered its element for X reason. Yes, but what is this X reason?
#5 Kamelion Jan 31, 2004 2:30:29	EAFW gives some ideas about what each element is seeking on Athas, so you can start there as guidelines. I have a couple of clerics in my game right now. One, a cleric of Earth, has committed herself to finding a way to rid Tyrian iron ore of its arsenide content (where do players get these insane ideas from??). If she is wasteful of resources, environmentally destructive and befouls the area with alchemical byproducts along the way, for example, I'd imagine that she would have trouble with her patron element for this kind of behaviour. Alternatively, her patron element might require her to devise a more ecofriendly method of mining in return for supporting her efforts to strip the arsenide deposits. A water cleric who used her abilities to hoard water for herself and then sold this to those around her at exagerrated prices might be considered to be transgressing the needs of her patron element. A fire cleric who fought to quench a fire for no other reason than it threatens his property is treading a thin line. A sun cleric who started an umbrella shop would right up the creek. OK - clearly time to move on... ;)
#6 zombiegleemax Jan 31, 2004 17:23:14	Errr . . . nice ideas Kamelion. I could see it now: a limitied partnership between a former sun and a former rain priest started an umbrella factory . . . The elemental planes and their respective lords don't care one whit for the living people of Athas, except to use them as tools in their own little struggle for supremacy. This means that normal transgressions that would get priest of Paladine or Mystara booted from the church wouldn't mean jack to the elemental lords. They don't care about things like how a priest conducts his life, whether he has prayed the required number of times that day, if he has helped to spread the faith to the masses, if he tithed to the local church, etc. While Paladine would cut his ties with butchers and Ogma with book burners, the only thing the elemental priest has to worry about is how he treats the embodiment of his element on Athas, and how he treats the other elements (which are his enemies). If he neglects spreading his element and making it more prolific, then he's out. If he causes opposing elements to spread and become more prolific, then he's out. Simple as that. Quantity and quality are all that matters to them.