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The Return of The Black Rose

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#1
zar_niln
Feb 03, 2004 21:47:51 How would you handle this? My idea would be that Lord Soth was not sent back to Krynn, he was merely imprisoned far below Needergard. He would arise to challenge Azrael Dak and Inza.
#2
The_Jester
Feb 03, 2004 22:45:20 Except that Needergard is now resting in small itty bits at the bottom of a very deep canyon that opened up right below it.

I'd have him brought back after he 'died' in Krynn during the most recent DL books. Several years in the future so Inza is just getting into being a Dark Lord when *wham* Soth is back and he isn't DL.
He's not the kind of person to fight for power over his domain, nor would anyone really wish his return.
#3
zar_niln
Feb 03, 2004 23:00:56 I believe he would merely slay the current darklord for spite, just for usurping his position.
#4
The_Jester
Feb 04, 2004 0:17:38 He never wanted the position though. He spent most of his time brooding in his castle. Living in the past through magic mirrors and such.
I can't imagine he'd care much about it now its gone and he's no longer being tormented.
#5
mortavius
Feb 04, 2004 1:37:31 Actually Jester, your bit about Nedragaard being in bits at the bottom of the chasm is false. The ruins of Nedragaard still stand, though the castle itself was smashed during the Hour of Screaming Shadows. The Banshees reputedly still haunt the ruins, and I think I recall reading that Azrael even still lives there, when he isn't roaming around the domain.

But I could be wrong on that last bit.
#6
The_Jester
Feb 04, 2004 2:07:21 Haven't read Specter of the Black Rose so I'm unsure how devastating the night of screaming shadows was to the keep.
Think I was misled by the pic in Gaz4 on pg 109...
#7
john_w._mangrum
Feb 04, 2004 12:51:51 The art in Gaz IV isn't particularly "accurate," overall.
#8
scipio
Feb 04, 2004 23:14:00 I actually ran a campaign that centered on this. I had Soth come back, weakened from Azrael and Inza's treachery, and he hired the PCs to do his gruntwork til he could get healed.
#9
jonesy
Feb 05, 2004 4:47:00
Originally posted by James Lowder
Originally posted by VedVedsica
Soth is one of my most favorite villians of all time.I hated when they killed him off in WoS.Mr.Lowder!!!I would love to see him in a third Sithicus book..

I don't know if WotC would ever allow Soth to be used again. That said, I have a mechanism already built in to the Sithicus material by which that would be possible--though not as darklord and not in the way anyone would expect (I hope ;) ).

Cheers,
Jim Lowder

That said, I have a mechanism already built in to the Sithicus material... I've been intrigued by this ever since he said it.
#10
zombiegleemax
Feb 05, 2004 7:12:33
Originally posted by jonesy
I don't know if WotC would ever allow Soth to be used again. That said, I have a mechanism already built in to the Sithicus material by which that would be possible--though not as darklord and not in the way anyone would expect (I hope ;) ).

Cheers,
Jim Lowder

That said, I have a mechanism already built in to the Sithicus material... I've been intrigued by this ever since he said it.
That would be the white, um, person sidebar.

I think his mechanism would be to bring back Lord Loren Soth, Knight of the Rose, Champion of Solamnia, rather than Lord Soth, Knight of the Black Rose and Consort of the Blue Lady.
#11
zombiegleemax
Feb 07, 2004 22:32:51 I like how Jason of the Fraternity, a.k.a. Javier Phenregan, did it.
#12
zombiegleemax
Feb 13, 2004 9:02:10 Lord Soth, Solamanic Paladin is already in Sithicus if you wish.

The Dread Possibility of the Blessed Knight, which appears in the year 752-3, is Lord Soth as the hero paladin.
#13
zombiegleemax
Feb 13, 2004 10:17:17 Which is odd, because I thought that that was the White Rose.
#14
zombiegleemax
Feb 13, 2004 10:51:30 It could be.

but white rose is described as a ghostly visage near the ruins of NK, and is Isolde, the elfmaid, which wasn't a true " knight" .

So i believe the blessed knight is Lord Soth,

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zar_niln Feb 03, 2004 21:47:51	How would you handle this? My idea would be that Lord Soth was not sent back to Krynn, he was merely imprisoned far below Needergard. He would arise to challenge Azrael Dak and Inza.
#2 The_Jester Feb 03, 2004 22:45:20	Except that Needergard is now resting in small itty bits at the bottom of a very deep canyon that opened up right below it. I'd have him brought back after he 'died' in Krynn during the most recent DL books. Several years in the future so Inza is just getting into being a Dark Lord when wham Soth is back and he isn't DL. He's not the kind of person to fight for power over his domain, nor would anyone really wish his return.
#3 zar_niln Feb 03, 2004 23:00:56	I believe he would merely slay the current darklord for spite, just for usurping his position.
#4 The_Jester Feb 04, 2004 0:17:38	He never wanted the position though. He spent most of his time brooding in his castle. Living in the past through magic mirrors and such. I can't imagine he'd care much about it now its gone and he's no longer being tormented.
#5 mortavius Feb 04, 2004 1:37:31	Actually Jester, your bit about Nedragaard being in bits at the bottom of the chasm is false. The ruins of Nedragaard still stand, though the castle itself was smashed during the Hour of Screaming Shadows. The Banshees reputedly still haunt the ruins, and I think I recall reading that Azrael even still lives there, when he isn't roaming around the domain. But I could be wrong on that last bit.
#6 The_Jester Feb 04, 2004 2:07:21	Haven't read Specter of the Black Rose so I'm unsure how devastating the night of screaming shadows was to the keep. Think I was misled by the pic in Gaz4 on pg 109...
#7 john_w._mangrum Feb 04, 2004 12:51:51	The art in Gaz IV isn't particularly "accurate," overall.
#8 scipio Feb 04, 2004 23:14:00	I actually ran a campaign that centered on this. I had Soth come back, weakened from Azrael and Inza's treachery, and he hired the PCs to do his gruntwork til he could get healed.
#9 jonesy Feb 05, 2004 4:47:00	Originally posted by James Lowder Originally posted by VedVedsica Soth is one of my most favorite villians of all time.I hated when they killed him off in WoS.Mr.Lowder!!!I would love to see him in a third Sithicus book.. I don't know if WotC would ever allow Soth to be used again. That said, I have a mechanism already built in to the Sithicus material by which that would be possible--though not as darklord and not in the way anyone would expect (I hope ;) ). Cheers, Jim Lowder That said, I have a mechanism already built in to the Sithicus material... I've been intrigued by this ever since he said it.
#10 zombiegleemax Feb 05, 2004 7:12:33	Originally posted by jonesy I don't know if WotC would ever allow Soth to be used again. That said, I have a mechanism already built in to the Sithicus material by which that would be possible--though not as darklord and not in the way anyone would expect (I hope ;) ). Cheers, Jim Lowder That said, I have a mechanism already built in to the Sithicus material... I've been intrigued by this ever since he said it. That would be the white, um, person sidebar. I think his mechanism would be to bring back Lord Loren Soth, Knight of the Rose, Champion of Solamnia, rather than Lord Soth, Knight of the Black Rose and Consort of the Blue Lady.
#11 zombiegleemax Feb 07, 2004 22:32:51	I like how Jason of the Fraternity, a.k.a. Javier Phenregan, did it.
#12 zombiegleemax Feb 13, 2004 9:02:10	Lord Soth, Solamanic Paladin is already in Sithicus if you wish. The Dread Possibility of the Blessed Knight, which appears in the year 752-3, is Lord Soth as the hero paladin.
#13 zombiegleemax Feb 13, 2004 10:17:17	Which is odd, because I thought that that was the White Rose.
#14 zombiegleemax Feb 13, 2004 10:51:30	It could be. but white rose is described as a ghostly visage near the ruins of NK, and is Isolde, the elfmaid, which wasn't a true " knight" . So i believe the blessed knight is Lord Soth,