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#1
b4real
Feb 12, 2004 19:20:06 From what I have read on the boards there are avid supporters of the new Dragonlance v3.5 books here at the WizO site. I myself am proud to be counted amongst these supporters and if the products continue to look as good as the DL CS does the Dragonlance setting has my support for years to come!

~B4Real
#2
zombiegleemax
Feb 13, 2004 13:07:49 Actually, yes, it DOES have me hyped.

I ignored DL for years - not out of malice, I was just into other settings. But the new hardback books got me to look into the setting - and pick up some old 2e stuff, and some of the novels.

Heck, I might even set my next campaign in Krynn...
#3
b4real
Feb 13, 2004 13:46:28 My friend had the 2e books for years but I never really got into them(Although I did read all of the stuff on the Twins.).

Now when 3e came out I just had to have the books. :D

~B4Real
#4
iltharanos
Feb 13, 2004 14:22:31
Originally posted by B4Real
From what I have read on the boards there are avid supporters of the new Dragonlance v3.5 books here at the WizO site. I myself am proud to be counted amongst these supporters and if the products continue to look as good as the DL CS does the Dragonlance setting has my support for years to come!

~B4Real

My roleplaying group and I were when 3rd edition came out and Dragonlance was left on the back burner. Having virtually all the 2nd edition material on Dragonlance, we ran a 3rd edition Dragonlance game anyway. Now that Dragonlance is officially back to 3rd edition ... it's sort of a vindication to all those fans that refused to have their beloved setting die. So, yes I'd say Dragonlance has me hyped.
#5
zombiegleemax
Feb 13, 2004 16:44:09 Im happy that DL 3.5 info was released but Im not overley pleased with the quality of the products especially when compared to other materials such as FR.

Im still very happy that some materials are being released but I still expect certain degrees of quality, substance and timeliness on releases.

Im also very pleased with the awareness and hard work that SP is putting in to DL products and Im sure the quality will improve if a bit late for certain products (IMO)

PS
Im so in love with the Huma comic just released.
#6
baron_the_curse
Feb 13, 2004 19:05:21 I had no problem immediately converting my existing DLC to 3.0 and then to 3.5 when the DLCS was release. I’m pretty hyped about all the upcoming products, notably the Tower of High Sorcery and the Bestiary of Krynn.

I do agree with Hammerhand though, I don’t feel the quality of the DLCS core book is of the highest caliber, and in my opinion it’s a pale comparison to the magnificent work put into the Forgotten Realms book. Not to mention a complete rip-off. I was more please with Age of Mortals, although I still felt somewhat robbed, but as Hammerhand says I hope Sovereign Press is paying attention to these concerns and strives towards bringing us greater quality.
#7
Illithidbix
Feb 13, 2004 19:36:21 I disagree about the DLCS vs FRCS.
Whilst the Forgotten Realms book did contain alot of information (in a rather small font) including lots of demographics, racial feats and stuff, most of it is actually relatively unimportant for you're average game and the book as a whole fails to convey any real flavour and feel about how the setting and how the game should be run. (Insert cynical, yet accurate comment about how FR doesn’t really have any actual flavour so it rather suits the book.) The DLCS also demonstrates so much more humour and possible points of expansion. It also actually debates roleplaying and campaign focus, rather than just rules and history. Which is something rather unprecedented in 3rd ed.

In particular I would feel that the deities were treated far better, with actual details on the activities, dogma and behaviour of their Clerics, something very lacking in the FRCS. Most of the FR gods just got a brief mention in a big list, along with domains and favoured weapons, however how you are actually meant to roleplay your Cleric seems to be solely down to what alignment he/she is, and you really don’t want to get me started on that…

I was disappointed with the cutouts, however I blame this more on WoTC, since it seemed to take the writers by surprise as much as anyone else. However I did like the material included. I feel a DM new to the setting could start running a DL campaign far better from the DLCS than they could with a FR CS book. I would rather the quantity of the material be the problem than the quality.
#8
baron_the_curse
Feb 14, 2004 1:22:45 I have always dislike FR because of the attention it received by TSR during 2nd Edition. I never saw anything “that special” in the Realms to warrant the overwhelming flood of FR box sets and supplements. However, the Realms do have their own flavor and style which is not that much different from any high-fantasy line, including Dragonlance.

The FRCS for 3.0 is a great work. It has flavor and detail game mechanics. For the steep $40.00 bucks the fonts where just perfect, any bigger and I would feel ripped-off. This is an old topic actually, and many DL fans felt that for the same 40 dollars the DLCS didn’t offer nearly enough. Many other fans where just happy to have something DL finally printed for 3rd Edition.

The FRSC is an excellent core book and it should have been consider the standard template for future settings. The only problem I have with the book is that I can’t figure out how the people of the Realms manage to produce enough food for the huge population values presented for each region.

Example: Damara: Population 1,321,920.

Sure they import food but come on this is a medieval setting first and foremost, albeit with magic.
#9
zombiegleemax
Feb 14, 2004 8:04:14 It is a tad hard to understand the food production but then again it is a world filled with 50' lizards that fly and breath fire.

I think the FR is a great setting because it annoys me when people feel like thay have to ask questions like are there were rats on Krynn. For petes sake you are the DM if you want them add them. An evil/good or evil lyncanthrope can just be affected by its corresponding moon there end of story.

As for not having enough info on each god have you actually looked to see how many Gods the realms has? The write up on the DL gods wasnt much better and there were WAY less to deal with PLUS I totally dont care for the domains given to the DL gods. Sargas the god of Minotaurs doesnt have the Strength Domain, whats with that! No racial weapons included like in the 2E. Just alot missing in my eyes.

I just didnt feel there was enough area info either. Im sure SP will be releasing more products but I feel stuff was left out (like the info included with the DM screen) so in order to get the info that should have been included with one product you have to wait 6 months or more for a future product that just had the left out info thrown in.

Just my opinion but Im very hopeful that things are on the upslide now.
#10
dragontooth
Feb 14, 2004 12:39:24 One thing I didn't like about Dragonlance Gods/Goddesses all the Good, and Evil gods/goddess had evil, or good domains They should of given them 4 Domains each since they did that. Or 4 Domains to the major gods/goddesses anyways.
#11
rian_lightblade
Feb 17, 2004 18:05:14 I stopped picking up DL products since Dragons of Summer's Flame was published. My group and I converted the Classic DL box set to 3.0 and then to 3.5. Unfortanly any new DL will undoubtably contain the post Dragons of Summer's Flame timeline which is something my group and I do not care for at all.
#12
iltharanos
Feb 17, 2004 20:17:26
Originally posted by Rian Lightblade
I stopped picking up DL products since Dragons of Summer's Flame was published. My group and I converted the Classic DL box set to 3.0 and then to 3.5. Unfortanly any new DL will undoubtably contain the post Dragons of Summer's Flame timeline which is something my group and I do not care for at all.

That's not exactly true.

e.g. The War of the Lance sourcebook due out this summer/fall.
#13
zombiegleemax
Feb 17, 2004 20:39:00 I am disappointed that the Campaign Sourcebook for DragonLance did not address at all Ansalon BEFORE the first Cataclysm. Seeing as how they released at the same time the 5th Age book, they could have dropped most of the 5th Age Stuff from the Campaign sourcebook and concentrated on a 'Pre Cataclysm Sourcebook.'

But I have always, ever since November 1991 when I first picked up a Dragon Lance book, been such a fan of the DragonLance world. I will admit I hated the 2nd Generation series and all the stuff that has come out dated after that, but I truely loved the DRAGONS trilogy, the TWINS Trilogy and of course, everything that measured up the DragonLance world.
#14
mr._vandermeer
Feb 18, 2004 8:25:04 I used to play Dragonlance back in 1e, even had a campaign on Taladas once!

After having not played in DL for years, I have now ordered the DLCS. I hope it is every bit as good as I expect.

So, yes I am a bit hyped.
#15
rian_lightblade
Feb 18, 2004 13:12:47
Originally posted by iltharanos
That's not exactly true.

e.g. The War of the Lance sourcebook due out this summer/fall.

I didn't know they were coming out with a D&D WoL book. That's great! I will certainly pick it up when it comes out.

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#1 b4real Feb 12, 2004 19:20:06	From what I have read on the boards there are avid supporters of the new Dragonlance v3.5 books here at the WizO site. I myself am proud to be counted amongst these supporters and if the products continue to look as good as the DL CS does the Dragonlance setting has my support for years to come! ~B4Real
#2 zombiegleemax Feb 13, 2004 13:07:49	Actually, yes, it DOES have me hyped. I ignored DL for years - not out of malice, I was just into other settings. But the new hardback books got me to look into the setting - and pick up some old 2e stuff, and some of the novels. Heck, I might even set my next campaign in Krynn...
#3 b4real Feb 13, 2004 13:46:28	My friend had the 2e books for years but I never really got into them(Although I did read all of the stuff on the Twins.). Now when 3e came out I just had to have the books. :D ~B4Real
#4 iltharanos Feb 13, 2004 14:22:31	Originally posted by B4Real From what I have read on the boards there are avid supporters of the new Dragonlance v3.5 books here at the WizO site. I myself am proud to be counted amongst these supporters and if the products continue to look as good as the DL CS does the Dragonlance setting has my support for years to come! ~B4Real My roleplaying group and I were when 3rd edition came out and Dragonlance was left on the back burner. Having virtually all the 2nd edition material on Dragonlance, we ran a 3rd edition Dragonlance game anyway. Now that Dragonlance is officially back to 3rd edition ... it's sort of a vindication to all those fans that refused to have their beloved setting die. So, yes I'd say Dragonlance has me hyped.
#5 zombiegleemax Feb 13, 2004 16:44:09	Im happy that DL 3.5 info was released but Im not overley pleased with the quality of the products especially when compared to other materials such as FR. Im still very happy that some materials are being released but I still expect certain degrees of quality, substance and timeliness on releases. Im also very pleased with the awareness and hard work that SP is putting in to DL products and Im sure the quality will improve if a bit late for certain products (IMO) PS Im so in love with the Huma comic just released.
#6 baron_the_curse Feb 13, 2004 19:05:21	I had no problem immediately converting my existing DLC to 3.0 and then to 3.5 when the DLCS was release. I’m pretty hyped about all the upcoming products, notably the Tower of High Sorcery and the Bestiary of Krynn. I do agree with Hammerhand though, I don’t feel the quality of the DLCS core book is of the highest caliber, and in my opinion it’s a pale comparison to the magnificent work put into the Forgotten Realms book. Not to mention a complete rip-off. I was more please with Age of Mortals, although I still felt somewhat robbed, but as Hammerhand says I hope Sovereign Press is paying attention to these concerns and strives towards bringing us greater quality.
#7 Illithidbix Feb 13, 2004 19:36:21	I disagree about the DLCS vs FRCS. Whilst the Forgotten Realms book did contain alot of information (in a rather small font) including lots of demographics, racial feats and stuff, most of it is actually relatively unimportant for you're average game and the book as a whole fails to convey any real flavour and feel about how the setting and how the game should be run. (Insert cynical, yet accurate comment about how FR doesn’t really have any actual flavour so it rather suits the book.) The DLCS also demonstrates so much more humour and possible points of expansion. It also actually debates roleplaying and campaign focus, rather than just rules and history. Which is something rather unprecedented in 3rd ed. In particular I would feel that the deities were treated far better, with actual details on the activities, dogma and behaviour of their Clerics, something very lacking in the FRCS. Most of the FR gods just got a brief mention in a big list, along with domains and favoured weapons, however how you are actually meant to roleplay your Cleric seems to be solely down to what alignment he/she is, and you really don’t want to get me started on that… I was disappointed with the cutouts, however I blame this more on WoTC, since it seemed to take the writers by surprise as much as anyone else. However I did like the material included. I feel a DM new to the setting could start running a DL campaign far better from the DLCS than they could with a FR CS book. I would rather the quantity of the material be the problem than the quality.
#8 baron_the_curse Feb 14, 2004 1:22:45	I have always dislike FR because of the attention it received by TSR during 2nd Edition. I never saw anything “that special” in the Realms to warrant the overwhelming flood of FR box sets and supplements. However, the Realms do have their own flavor and style which is not that much different from any high-fantasy line, including Dragonlance. The FRCS for 3.0 is a great work. It has flavor and detail game mechanics. For the steep $40.00 bucks the fonts where just perfect, any bigger and I would feel ripped-off. This is an old topic actually, and many DL fans felt that for the same 40 dollars the DLCS didn’t offer nearly enough. Many other fans where just happy to have something DL finally printed for 3rd Edition. The FRSC is an excellent core book and it should have been consider the standard template for future settings. The only problem I have with the book is that I can’t figure out how the people of the Realms manage to produce enough food for the huge population values presented for each region. Example: Damara: Population 1,321,920. Sure they import food but come on this is a medieval setting first and foremost, albeit with magic.
#9 zombiegleemax Feb 14, 2004 8:04:14	It is a tad hard to understand the food production but then again it is a world filled with 50' lizards that fly and breath fire. I think the FR is a great setting because it annoys me when people feel like thay have to ask questions like are there were rats on Krynn. For petes sake you are the DM if you want them add them. An evil/good or evil lyncanthrope can just be affected by its corresponding moon there end of story. As for not having enough info on each god have you actually looked to see how many Gods the realms has? The write up on the DL gods wasnt much better and there were WAY less to deal with PLUS I totally dont care for the domains given to the DL gods. Sargas the god of Minotaurs doesnt have the Strength Domain, whats with that! No racial weapons included like in the 2E. Just alot missing in my eyes. I just didnt feel there was enough area info either. Im sure SP will be releasing more products but I feel stuff was left out (like the info included with the DM screen) so in order to get the info that should have been included with one product you have to wait 6 months or more for a future product that just had the left out info thrown in. Just my opinion but Im very hopeful that things are on the upslide now.
#10 dragontooth Feb 14, 2004 12:39:24	One thing I didn't like about Dragonlance Gods/Goddesses all the Good, and Evil gods/goddess had evil, or good domains They should of given them 4 Domains each since they did that. Or 4 Domains to the major gods/goddesses anyways.
#11 rian_lightblade Feb 17, 2004 18:05:14	I stopped picking up DL products since Dragons of Summer's Flame was published. My group and I converted the Classic DL box set to 3.0 and then to 3.5. Unfortanly any new DL will undoubtably contain the post Dragons of Summer's Flame timeline which is something my group and I do not care for at all.
#12 iltharanos Feb 17, 2004 20:17:26	Originally posted by Rian Lightblade I stopped picking up DL products since Dragons of Summer's Flame was published. My group and I converted the Classic DL box set to 3.0 and then to 3.5. Unfortanly any new DL will undoubtably contain the post Dragons of Summer's Flame timeline which is something my group and I do not care for at all. That's not exactly true. e.g. The War of the Lance sourcebook due out this summer/fall.
#13 zombiegleemax Feb 17, 2004 20:39:00	I am disappointed that the Campaign Sourcebook for DragonLance did not address at all Ansalon BEFORE the first Cataclysm. Seeing as how they released at the same time the 5th Age book, they could have dropped most of the 5th Age Stuff from the Campaign sourcebook and concentrated on a 'Pre Cataclysm Sourcebook.' But I have always, ever since November 1991 when I first picked up a Dragon Lance book, been such a fan of the DragonLance world. I will admit I hated the 2nd Generation series and all the stuff that has come out dated after that, but I truely loved the DRAGONS trilogy, the TWINS Trilogy and of course, everything that measured up the DragonLance world.
#14 mr._vandermeer Feb 18, 2004 8:25:04	I used to play Dragonlance back in 1e, even had a campaign on Taladas once! After having not played in DL for years, I have now ordered the DLCS. I hope it is every bit as good as I expect. So, yes I am a bit hyped.
#15 rian_lightblade Feb 18, 2004 13:12:47	Originally posted by iltharanos That's not exactly true. e.g. The War of the Lance sourcebook due out this summer/fall. I didn't know they were coming out with a D&D WoL book. That's great! I will certainly pick it up when it comes out.