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#1
wyvern76
Feb 16, 2004 2:58:02 I have a few questions regarding life-shaped artifacts:

1) What exactly are they? Are they kind of like biotech?

2) Which supplement is the best to get for information on them, and is it available thru SVGames?

3) Has anyone done a 3e conversion for them?

My knowledge of Dark Sun is very basic, so please keep it simple.

Wyvern
#2
Kamelion
Feb 16, 2004 3:18:53
Originally posted by Wyvern76
I have a few questions regarding life-shaped artifacts:

1) What exactly are they? Are they kind of like biotech?

2) Which supplement is the best to get for information on them, and is it available thru SVGames?

3) Has anyone done a 3e conversion for them?

My knowledge of Dark Sun is very basic, so please keep it simple.

Wyvern

Hi Wyvvern,

1) "Biotech" is as good a term as any. They're living beings that have been grown as tools of one kind or another. Think the gamepods in the movie eXistenZ. They were initially created by rhulisti naturemasters (Athas' halfling progenitor race) and predate either psionics or magic.

2) The two best supplements are "Windriders of the Jagged Cliffs" and "Psionic Artifacts of Athas". Windriders has the basic rules and background and Psionic Artifacts adds loads more goodies (plus lots of magical and psionic stuff too). You should be able to get them from svgames.

3) To my knowledge there has been no thorough conversion of the lifeshaped. I do have a copy of a nature master prestige class that stats out some lifeshaped stuff. Can't remember for the life of me where I got it from but I can mail you a copy if you like. (I've never used it so no idea what it's actually like - heh heh).

Hope this helps
#3
nytcrawlr
Feb 16, 2004 14:49:37
Originally posted by Kamelion
I do have a copy of a nature master prestige class that stats out some lifeshaped stuff. Can't remember for the life of me where I got it from but I can mail you a copy if you like. (I've never used it so no idea what it's actually like - heh heh).

I'll take a copy of that though if you don't mind.
#4
wyvern76
Feb 17, 2004 1:38:44
Originally posted by NytCrawlr
I'll take a copy of that though if you don't mind.

Likewise. You can send it to wyvern76 @ hotmail.com.

So is rhulisti the name of the race, or does it mean something else?

Wyvern
#5
nytcrawlr
Feb 17, 2004 1:47:21
Originally posted by Wyvern76
So is rhulisti the name of the race, or does it mean something else?

Rhulisti was the halfling race during the Blue Age.

They later degraded down to savage halflings and rhul-thuan. Rhul-thuan being more sophisticated like the rhulisti but now possessing less of the life shaping "technology" than the rhulisti did.
#6
Kamelion
Feb 17, 2004 2:59:46
Originally posted by Wyvern76
Likewise. You can send it to wyvern76 @ hotmail.com.

So is rhulisti the name of the race, or does it mean something else?

Wyvern

Just sent them out guys - have fun
#7
zombiegleemax
Feb 17, 2004 8:46:51 I ran a conversion of all the items in _Windriders_ into 3e for my Thamasku campaign; suffice to say it required considerable reworking given all the new mechanics like "hardness", and the strictures of how much dmg/crit multipliers things can do in order to stay balanced within the framework of "simple, martial, and exotic".

For the Lifeshaper PrC's I had two variants that I never quite reconciled, one being obviously based around Rogue (with all their skill points) and another being based around druids, with their innate connection to natural life.

I also had a PrC based around the concept of progressively grafting more and more items to one's body that was open to all classes but heavily favored rangers and fighters; I toyed with (but abandoned) trying to implement a Shadowrun-style "essence" mechanic.

I could post some of these if anyone's interested.
#8
gab
Feb 17, 2004 9:21:09 Strutinan also had converted all life-shaped items; don't know if his site is still online.
#9
nytcrawlr
Feb 17, 2004 15:56:58
Originally posted by Hiero5ant

I could post some of these if anyone's interested.

Go ahead and post them, or if you need a site to host them on feel free to send me the info and I will get it up as soon as I can.

Danke.
#10
jihun-nish
Feb 17, 2004 18:32:34
Originally posted by Hiero5ant
I ran a conversion of all the items in _Windriders_ into 3e for my Thamasku campaign; suffice to say it required considerable reworking given all the new mechanics like "hardness", and the strictures of how much dmg/crit multipliers things can do in order to stay balanced within the framework of "simple, martial, and exotic".

For the Lifeshaper PrC's I had two variants that I never quite reconciled, one being obviously based around Rogue (with all their skill points) and another being based around druids, with their innate connection to natural life.

I also had a PrC based around the concept of progressively grafting more and more items to one's body that was open to all classes but heavily favored rangers and fighters; I toyed with (but abandoned) trying to implement a Shadowrun-style "essence" mechanic.

I could post some of these if anyone's interested.

Being the non-official writer of the rhul-thaun fictionnal story, I would surely be interested in what you came up with ,inyour conversion(althought stats have verry little to do with novel writing, the writer must stick to some rules none-the-less )

Also, you would have elaborated in a Thamasku map(and its surrounding by any chance?? If so, I'd like your permission to have a look at it. Not to copie it for i have my own idea on the layout of Thamasku. But merely to have a second creative opinion on the matter. Thanks...

Jihun-
#11
zombiegleemax
Feb 17, 2004 21:07:01
Strutinan also had converted all life-shaped items; don't know if his site is still online.

Nope. Strut took all his DS stuff off his website, which is now devoted to his pudding RPG publishing company (I forget the name). I'm not sure if he would even be inclined to email his conversion docs out anymore. He wouldn't send them to me . . . damned if I know why
#12
nytcrawlr
Feb 17, 2004 21:13:06
Originally posted by Mach2.5
Nope. Strut took all his DS stuff off his website, which is now devoted to his pudding RPG publishing company (I forget the name). I'm not sure if he would even be inclined to email his conversion docs out anymore. He wouldn't send them to me . . . damned if I know why

Good ol Strut, I miss him...
#13
zombiegleemax
Feb 17, 2004 21:59:31 I'm not being sarcastic actually by saying that I do too. I miss the flaming, the arrogance, the insensitivity, the belligerence, the bullheadedness . . . because the guy had some really neat story ideas. It just blew trying to wade through all of the above to get to them . . .
#14
nytcrawlr
Feb 17, 2004 22:08:59
Originally posted by Mach2.5
I'm not being sarcastic actually by saying that I do too. I miss the flaming, the arrogance, the insensitivity, the belligerence, the bullheadedness . . . because the guy had some really neat story ideas. It just blew trying to wade through all of the above to get to them . . .

I'll have to agree that he did have *some* ideas, trying to wade through all the other crap was a though.
#15
Cyrian
Feb 18, 2004 1:50:20 Eheeeee, I actually met the guy once a couple years ago. It turned out he went to the same uni as I did. I was starting up a DS game at the school's gaming club, and he came up one day, a complete stranger, when I was setting up and asked which rules I was using. When I said athas.org he just started going off, something about a buick not really being a buick or if it's got a Ford motor, or something.
Didn't really think much of it at first, but then saw on his profile he lived in Califnornia, and decided to ask around. And whaddya know.
Good times, good times. :D
#16
nytcrawlr
Feb 18, 2004 4:30:01 Yeah, good ol Strut, he put the "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Run for your lives!" in fanatic.

And I thought I was bad with my Kalak bashing.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 wyvern76 Feb 16, 2004 2:58:02	I have a few questions regarding life-shaped artifacts: 1) What exactly are they? Are they kind of like biotech? 2) Which supplement is the best to get for information on them, and is it available thru SVGames? 3) Has anyone done a 3e conversion for them? My knowledge of Dark Sun is very basic, so please keep it simple. Wyvern
#2 Kamelion Feb 16, 2004 3:18:53	Originally posted by Wyvern76 I have a few questions regarding life-shaped artifacts: 1) What exactly are they? Are they kind of like biotech? 2) Which supplement is the best to get for information on them, and is it available thru SVGames? 3) Has anyone done a 3e conversion for them? My knowledge of Dark Sun is very basic, so please keep it simple. Wyvern Hi Wyvvern, 1) "Biotech" is as good a term as any. They're living beings that have been grown as tools of one kind or another. Think the gamepods in the movie eXistenZ. They were initially created by rhulisti naturemasters (Athas' halfling progenitor race) and predate either psionics or magic. 2) The two best supplements are "Windriders of the Jagged Cliffs" and "Psionic Artifacts of Athas". Windriders has the basic rules and background and Psionic Artifacts adds loads more goodies (plus lots of magical and psionic stuff too). You should be able to get them from svgames. 3) To my knowledge there has been no thorough conversion of the lifeshaped. I do have a copy of a nature master prestige class that stats out some lifeshaped stuff. Can't remember for the life of me where I got it from but I can mail you a copy if you like. (I've never used it so no idea what it's actually like - heh heh). Hope this helps
#3 nytcrawlr Feb 16, 2004 14:49:37	Originally posted by Kamelion I do have a copy of a nature master prestige class that stats out some lifeshaped stuff. Can't remember for the life of me where I got it from but I can mail you a copy if you like. (I've never used it so no idea what it's actually like - heh heh). I'll take a copy of that though if you don't mind.
#4 wyvern76 Feb 17, 2004 1:38:44	Originally posted by NytCrawlr I'll take a copy of that though if you don't mind. Likewise. You can send it to wyvern76 @ hotmail.com. So is rhulisti the name of the race, or does it mean something else? Wyvern
#5 nytcrawlr Feb 17, 2004 1:47:21	Originally posted by Wyvern76 So is rhulisti the name of the race, or does it mean something else? Rhulisti was the halfling race during the Blue Age. They later degraded down to savage halflings and rhul-thuan. Rhul-thuan being more sophisticated like the rhulisti but now possessing less of the life shaping "technology" than the rhulisti did.
#6 Kamelion Feb 17, 2004 2:59:46	Originally posted by Wyvern76 Likewise. You can send it to wyvern76 @ hotmail.com. So is rhulisti the name of the race, or does it mean something else? Wyvern Just sent them out guys - have fun
#7 zombiegleemax Feb 17, 2004 8:46:51	I ran a conversion of all the items in _Windriders_ into 3e for my Thamasku campaign; suffice to say it required considerable reworking given all the new mechanics like "hardness", and the strictures of how much dmg/crit multipliers things can do in order to stay balanced within the framework of "simple, martial, and exotic". For the Lifeshaper PrC's I had two variants that I never quite reconciled, one being obviously based around Rogue (with all their skill points) and another being based around druids, with their innate connection to natural life. I also had a PrC based around the concept of progressively grafting more and more items to one's body that was open to all classes but heavily favored rangers and fighters; I toyed with (but abandoned) trying to implement a Shadowrun-style "essence" mechanic. I could post some of these if anyone's interested.
#8 gab Feb 17, 2004 9:21:09	Strutinan also had converted all life-shaped items; don't know if his site is still online.
#9 nytcrawlr Feb 17, 2004 15:56:58	Originally posted by Hiero5ant I could post some of these if anyone's interested. Go ahead and post them, or if you need a site to host them on feel free to send me the info and I will get it up as soon as I can. Danke.
#10 jihun-nish Feb 17, 2004 18:32:34	Originally posted by Hiero5ant I ran a conversion of all the items in _Windriders_ into 3e for my Thamasku campaign; suffice to say it required considerable reworking given all the new mechanics like "hardness", and the strictures of how much dmg/crit multipliers things can do in order to stay balanced within the framework of "simple, martial, and exotic". For the Lifeshaper PrC's I had two variants that I never quite reconciled, one being obviously based around Rogue (with all their skill points) and another being based around druids, with their innate connection to natural life. I also had a PrC based around the concept of progressively grafting more and more items to one's body that was open to all classes but heavily favored rangers and fighters; I toyed with (but abandoned) trying to implement a Shadowrun-style "essence" mechanic. I could post some of these if anyone's interested. Being the non-official writer of the rhul-thaun fictionnal story, I would surely be interested in what you came up with ,inyour conversion(althought stats have verry little to do with novel writing, the writer must stick to some rules none-the-less ) Also, you would have elaborated in a Thamasku map(and its surrounding by any chance?? If so, I'd like your permission to have a look at it. Not to copie it for i have my own idea on the layout of Thamasku. But merely to have a second creative opinion on the matter. Thanks... Jihun-
#11 zombiegleemax Feb 17, 2004 21:07:01	Strutinan also had converted all life-shaped items; don't know if his site is still online. Nope. Strut took all his DS stuff off his website, which is now devoted to his pudding RPG publishing company (I forget the name). I'm not sure if he would even be inclined to email his conversion docs out anymore. He wouldn't send them to me . . . damned if I know why
#12 nytcrawlr Feb 17, 2004 21:13:06	Originally posted by Mach2.5 Nope. Strut took all his DS stuff off his website, which is now devoted to his pudding RPG publishing company (I forget the name). I'm not sure if he would even be inclined to email his conversion docs out anymore. He wouldn't send them to me . . . damned if I know why Good ol Strut, I miss him...
#13 zombiegleemax Feb 17, 2004 21:59:31	I'm not being sarcastic actually by saying that I do too. I miss the flaming, the arrogance, the insensitivity, the belligerence, the bullheadedness . . . because the guy had some really neat story ideas. It just blew trying to wade through all of the above to get to them . . .
#14 nytcrawlr Feb 17, 2004 22:08:59	Originally posted by Mach2.5 I'm not being sarcastic actually by saying that I do too. I miss the flaming, the arrogance, the insensitivity, the belligerence, the bullheadedness . . . because the guy had some really neat story ideas. It just blew trying to wade through all of the above to get to them . . . I'll have to agree that he did have some ideas, trying to wade through all the other crap was a though.
#15 Cyrian Feb 18, 2004 1:50:20	Eheeeee, I actually met the guy once a couple years ago. It turned out he went to the same uni as I did. I was starting up a DS game at the school's gaming club, and he came up one day, a complete stranger, when I was setting up and asked which rules I was using. When I said athas.org he just started going off, something about a buick not really being a buick or if it's got a Ford motor, or something. Didn't really think much of it at first, but then saw on his profile he lived in Califnornia, and decided to ask around. And whaddya know. Good times, good times. :D
#16 nytcrawlr Feb 18, 2004 4:30:01	Yeah, good ol Strut, he put the "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Run for your lives!" in fanatic. And I thought I was bad with my Kalak bashing.