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#1 Kamelion Feb 19, 2004 2:44:17	OK, I'm justing throwing this open in a random fashion to provide a gathering place for what we all think should be on a sticky FAQ/info thread. If we keep it sane, simple and short then the folks in the Overcouncil could maybe select the most appropriate to answer and whack 'em in a sticky thread. Sound good? I'll batter up and go with the #1 fave: "I've heard about Dark Sun - is there going to be a 3e version of the seeting released any time soon?" More to follow...? M.
#2 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Feb 19, 2004 2:53:13	Where can I find copies of the 2nd Edition Dark Sun books (PDF or printed)? Why is there not going to be a printed version of DS3 released at bookstores/gaming stores? If the athas.org conversion isn't printed, how can it be official? Have you read the conversion rules for Dark Sun found in the Dungeon/Dragon magazines? Why aren't those conversions used by athas.org?
#3 nytcrawlr Feb 19, 2004 3:06:06	What is your name? What is your quest? What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow? Oh...wrong group of questions, heh. Where is the official timeline of Athas at? Where can I find detailed history on Athas? How do I get a copy of Secrets of the Deadlands? How do I get a copy of Dregoth Ascending? How can I help Athas.org out? How many champions were there officially and what was the target race of each one? How do I join the Dark Sun mailing list? What is deemed official, and what isn't? Does everything anyone with an athas.org email or helping Athas.org in other ways creates automatically become official?
#4 jaanos Feb 19, 2004 3:11:15	Was Kalak really a champion?
#5 nytcrawlr Feb 19, 2004 3:31:29	Were Sacha and Wyan really gay and secretly in love with Rajaat? Was Kalid-Ma really a transvestite that only the power of Ravenloft could expose? Did said power finally grow bored of this jest and decide to hide said exposure again? Is the paragon of the Jozhals really named King Koopa and rap like Eminem?
#6 zerpentor Feb 19, 2004 4:48:30	i think i'm gonna cry... yup.. definately gonna cry
#7 korvar Feb 19, 2004 5:22:32	Why aren't there Paladins/Sorcerors/TheLatestCoolPrestigeClass in Dark Sun? Huh? Huh?!
#8 elonarc Feb 19, 2004 5:44:12	Is spelljamming in DS possible? Can I bring loads of iron from [insert world] to Athas and become the richest person in the world and buy the dragon? Is there a spelljammer/Dark Sun crossover adventure?
#9 Kamelion Feb 19, 2004 6:14:10	Originally posted by NytCrawlr ...What is deemed official, and what isn't?... Moreover, what is canon and what is not? Are the Prism Pentad canon? What about the other novels? RaFoaDK? What is the official stance of athas.org on all the various contradictions in the published material? Will an official "statement of canon" ever be forthcoming? Does it even matter?
#10 flindbar Feb 19, 2004 6:20:16	Where can i find a map of the known parts of athas ? Where can i find a map of the areas outside the known parts of athas ? Is crossing from one world (athas) to another world (toril / oerth etc) possible via the planes ? How does the grey / black interfere with said process ? The elemental planes are said to be different in nature with rergard to Athas - how so ? (game effects etc )
#11 Shei-Nad Feb 19, 2004 9:54:36	Hmm... Good topic idea... I guess we'll get good questions too, within all the rest... still fun though. That said, I think a good start would be: What is Dark Sun? (with an short answer on the campaign setting, and another one on the RPG setting's history) And along the lines of questions established above: Q: Is the Half-Giant presented in the new 3.5 Psionics Handbook a Dark Sun race? A: OH DEAR GOD NO! DEFINATELY NOT!
#12 jon_oracle_of_athas Feb 19, 2004 10:01:00	Does it hurt to get your head trampled by a mekillot? No, I mean, does it really hurt?
#13 zombiegleemax Feb 19, 2004 10:05:04	If crossover is posible, what would preservers and defilers be treated as in other worlds? And the other way around with mages entering athas? What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow? What do mean?:D an African or a European swallow
#14 jon_oracle_of_athas Feb 19, 2004 10:06:55	An athasian swallow?
#15 Kamelion Feb 19, 2004 10:13:00	Isn't the "athasian swallow" an advanced beer-drinking technique perfected by the sligs?
#16 jon_oracle_of_athas Feb 19, 2004 10:19:31	I thought it was invented by the jozhals. With that long neck they curve and all.
#17 dawnstealer Feb 19, 2004 11:33:32	As for the FAQ, I'd have the official timeline posted (cleaned up a little to match the canon books); describe the Grey, Black, and Hollow (really describe them, which means we'd have to reach some kind of consensus); Basically, we can answer a lot of the easy questions that Nyt pointed out right off the bat, the problem lies in the fact some of the questions are simply a matter of opinion. While I'm (obviously) not a big fan of the "invasion of the space halflings," it was on the board of the DS team at TSR. Since they never made it, though, I can ignore that plot idea, but others might like it and want to include it. Which is right? See what I mean? As for the swallow, it would depend on where it was gripping the coconut.
#18 zombiegleemax Feb 19, 2004 22:40:50	Moreover, what is canon and what is not? Are the Prism Pentad canon? What about the other novels? RaFoaDK? Well, technically, everything that is published by the setting's liscense holder, or those given special permision by the liscense holder, is canon. So . . . all published setting material, all adventures, all novels, all dragon and dungeon magazine articles, as well as anything produced by athas.org. This includes any and all contradictions that arise from one source or another. Decide for your own game which side of a contradictory statement holds true. Well, at least that's how I'd answer it, if I were writing the FAQ.
#19 nytcrawlr Feb 19, 2004 22:43:17	Originally posted by Mach2.5 Well, technically, everything that is published by the setting's liscense holder, or those given special permision by the liscense holder, is canon. So . . . all published setting material, all adventures, all novels, all dragon and dungeon magazine articles, as well as anything produced by athas.org. This includes any and all contradictions that arise from one source or another. Decide for your own game which side of a contradictory statement holds true. Well, at least that's how I'd answer it, if I were writing the FAQ. Good answer!
#20 jaanos Feb 19, 2004 23:45:43	Is there an athasian underdark? All all the SK's emerging aspects of Thakisis, who will be Dark Sun first (Dragon) Goddess? Can i buy an airplane ticket to Darksun? i heard it's a gladiator-replica-resort in south afric. Are there Kangaroo's in darksun? How much is a watermelon helmet in dark sun?
#21 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Feb 20, 2004 0:12:09	Who is Thak Isis?
#22 Cyrian Feb 20, 2004 0:38:12	I think he means Takhisis, maybe. O_o
#23 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Feb 20, 2004 1:34:00	You spoil my fun! A pox on thee!
#24 Cyrian Feb 20, 2004 1:39:51	*ahem* Lemme rephrase that. A long lost relative of Thak-ok An, maybe? There, that better?
#25 nytcrawlr Feb 20, 2004 13:58:12	She's damn sexy too.
#26 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Feb 20, 2004 14:54:48	Last I checked, she's a corpse as well. You necrophiliac.
#27 nytcrawlr Feb 20, 2004 15:04:01	Less resistance that way... Did I say that out loud? :embarrass
#28 jaanos Feb 20, 2004 15:28:05	Spelling d&d names was neber by fortay....
#29 zombiegleemax Feb 20, 2004 16:34:39	"Where can I find a list of adventures/adventure ideas for Dark Sun?" "Are there any reviews for older Dark Sun supplements anywhere?"--preferably by the dark sun community "What's the hold up on the Monsters?" "What are these 'lightning bolts' John, the Oracle of Athas keeps referring to?" "The Dragon/Dungeon conversion of Dark Sun sucked, can I get my money back?"
#30 nytcrawlr Feb 20, 2004 16:47:33	Originally posted by mason "What's th8it e hold up on the Monsters?" *I'll answe5r Since this was answered by Gab in another post, but ToA will be out very soon. "The Dragon/Dungeon conversion of Dark Sun sucked, can I get my money back?" It's not may yet, be patient. :P
#31 Pennarin Feb 20, 2004 16:52:15	Originally posted by mason "The Dragon/Dungeon conversion of Dark Sun sucked, can I get my money back?" That is the first gospel, which the lord answered with...neh. The nine other gospels are about the best way of obtaining and moving about a shrobery, which I will spare you...
#32 zombiegleemax Feb 20, 2004 17:27:14	Oh yeah, another I've been wondering myself: "Will athas.org be advancing the timeline of Dark Sun?"
#33 Grummore Feb 22, 2004 18:37:59	I have put all the questions in one place so we can have a better look of these questions. Btw, do you think my listing is correct? The questions at the good place? Basics questions -What is Dark Sun? (with an short answer on the campaign setting, and another one on the RPG setting's history) - I've heard about Dark Sun - is there going to be a 3e version of the setting released any time soon? - Where is the official timeline of Athas at? - Where can I find detailed history on Athas? - How can I help Athas.org out? - How do I join the Dark Sun mailing list? - Where can i find a map of the known parts of athas? - Where can i find a map of the areas outside the known parts of athas? - Why aren't there Paladins/Sorcerors/TheLatestCoolPrestigeClass in Dark Sun? - Where can I find a list of adventures/adventure ideas for Dark Sun? - "Are there any reviews for older Dark Sun supplements anywhere?"--preferably by the dark sun community Policy and officiality questions - Why is there not going to be a printed version of DS3 released at bookstores/gaming stores? - If the athas.org conversion isn't printed, how can it be official? - Have you read the conversion rules for Dark Sun found in the Dungeon/Dragon magazines? - Why aren't those conversions used by athas.org? - What is deemed official, and what isn't? Does everything anyone with an athas.org email or helping Athas.org in other ways creates automatically become official? - What is the official stance of athas.org on all the various contradictions in the published material? Will an official "statement of canon" ever be forthcoming? Setting questions - How many champions were there officially and what was the target race of each one? - What is canon and what is not? Are the Prism Pentad canon? What about the other novels? RaFoaDK? - Is there an athasian underdark? Unsolved mystery questions :D - How do I get a copy of Secrets of the Deadlands? - How do I get a copy of Dregoth Ascending? - Is crossing from one world (athas) to another world (toril / oerth etc) possible via the planes ? -How does the grey / black interfere with said process ? -The elemental planes are said to be different in nature with rergard to Athas - how so ? (game effects etc ) -If crossover is posible, what would preservers and defilers be treated as in other worlds? And the other way around with mages entering athas? - All all the SK's emerging aspects of Takhisis, who will be Dark Sun first (Dragon) Goddess? - Will athas.org be advancing the timeline of Dark Sun? - Was Kalak really a champion? - Is spelljamming in DS possible? - Can I bring loads of iron from [insert world] to Athas and become the richest person in the world and buy the dragon? - Is there a spelljammer/Dark Sun crossover adventure?
#34 Kamelion Feb 23, 2004 2:28:26	I have put all the questions in one place so we can have a better look of these questions. Btw, do you think my listing is correct? The questions at the good place? Looks cool, Grummore - good idea to come up with categories like that I know that both Jon and Flip have FAQs of one sort or another on their sites (and sigs) - it might be a good idea to merge these together along with providing answers to the list above. Overcouncil/Senate folks, what do you think?
#35 korvar Feb 23, 2004 6:13:22	I can't believe my silly suggestion made it into the serious list
#36 gab Feb 23, 2004 8:15:08	It's definately a good idea to have a FAQ, and post it as a sticky.
#37 jon_oracle_of_athas Feb 23, 2004 9:41:40	I can't believe my silly suggestion made it into the serious list Probably because it has been asked so many times... Hey, why isn't *my* silly suggestion on the list? Oh, and yeah, posting the various FAQS at athas.org is definitely something I've been thinking about that we should get around to real soon. The good old FAQ at meteu might need an update, with the Penguins of Flibble and all... *prods Flip*.
#38 dawnstealer Feb 23, 2004 20:05:23	I'll prod Flip, too. And, uh, Flip? That's not my finger...
#39 flip Feb 24, 2004 12:53:43	Originally posted by Dawnstealer I'll prod Flip, too. And, uh, Flip? That's not my finger... In the works. It'll go in with whatever I finally decide upon doing with a site rewrite. /me has been meaning to get the old FAQ transferred to athas.org for a long time anyway. The timeline too.
#40 jon_oracle_of_athas Feb 24, 2004 17:47:12	Grab the DS3 Design FAQ from my site while you're at it.
#41 flip Feb 24, 2004 22:06:31	Originally posted by Jon, Oracle of Athas Grab the DS3 Design FAQ from my site while you're at it. Ayup. was also planning on that.