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Greyhawk & Mystara

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#1
zombiegleemax
Feb 21, 2004 22:39:54 Hello again my friends!

Can anybody help me with this?! ...

1: Once I read that in the land of black ice there is a place called Hollow. Hollow is the world of Mystara, am I correct?

2: While searching for Oerik maps I found a "Skothar as Oerik" map on the Mystara Setting web site.

What is the relation between the Mystara Setting and the Greyhawk Setting?
#2
zombiegleemax
Feb 22, 2004 9:54:10
Can anybody help me with this?! ...

1: Once I read that in the land of black ice there is a place called Hollow. Hollow is the world of Mystara, am I correct?

Well, the world of Mystara is hollow. Oerth, as far as anyone knows, is not. No connection there.

2: While searching for Oerik maps I found a "Skothar as Oerik" map on the Mystara Setting web site.

Hmm. I'd have to take a look at the site myself. Do you have a link?
#3
eric_anondson
Feb 22, 2004 11:41:16 Mystara is the world where the Hollow World setting fits. It would take great efforts to slide this into Oerth, but it would be interesting in the outcome. The Immortals of Mystara have duplicated extinct cultures and races and placed them in the Hollow World. The Immortals cast the Spell of Preservation upon the Hollow World so as to ensure the people inside didn't change culturally, no matter how much cultural interaction they had with other Hollow World people.

It would be interesting to imagine which Oerth cultures might have been preserved in a Hollow World by gods like is done on Mystara.

Interestingly, I read once that Gary Gygax once considered placing a Pellucidar-like world deep within Oerth back when it was under his creative control. Pellucidar, for those who don't know, is a collection of novels by Edgar Rice Burroughs, written back in the 1930's, that posits that planet Earth is actually hollow. It is discovered, explored, and conquered during the course of novels. ERB is one of EGG's acknowledged influences.

What relation is there between Mystara and Oerth? Not much.

Mystara as a world evolved out of the continuation of the OD&D line of products in the 1980's, while Greyhawk moved along into AD&D with Gary while he developed those rules. Mystara first appeared in any form with the X1 Isle of Dread module that came with the Expert Set, the map of the continent far to the north of the Isle of Dread was it. Slowly, that continent was fleshed out with accessories and further OD&D modules.

As Mystara's history was developed, it adopted Dave Arneson's "Blackmoor" into the setting, but rather as something that occurred thosands of years in the setting's history. This is when the D&D Blackmoor adventures were published.

However, early in D&D's development in the 1970's Dave Arneson occasionally DM'd Gary Gygax and friends, who would bring their favorite characters, in Blackmoor. I guess Gary enjoyed it enough to want to develop a "pseudo-verisimilitude" about those sessions because he placed a "Blackmoor" in the northern Flanaess.

Regards,
Eric Anondson
#4
zombiegleemax
Feb 22, 2004 21:36:55 Hello friends!

Hummm... Thanx Eric! In fact I was reading the Oerth Journal#3 and there I could find this information u posted here! :D

Visit this link...

http://www.dnd.starflung.com/maps.html

... and search for the "Skothar as Oerik: A Mystaran Flanaess"
#5
despotrix
Feb 24, 2004 3:11:05 That Skothar/Oerik map is just a "what if?" idea one of the Mystara fans had. There is no official relationship between the settings.

However, that map is excellently done, and anyone who hasn't developed much of Oerth "beyond the flanaess" could definately consider using it as a foundation for their "whole oerth".

Here's the direct link, btw

http://www.dnd.starflung.com/mystghmp.jpg

It's by James Mishler, one of the primary contributors to Vaults of Pandius.
#6
zombiegleemax
Feb 24, 2004 23:25:11 Humm... Thanx Despotrix!!!

Well, it´s really a good map, but i think the "original" oerth is better!

Hummm... by the way, i have in my hands an old oerth map which shows places like "Zindia", "Elven Lands", "Dragon Isles" and etc, beyond the Flanaess. I think this map was released in a Dragon or Dungeon Magazine (i don´t know for sure)... Does anybody has any information about this places?

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#1 zombiegleemax Feb 21, 2004 22:39:54	Hello again my friends! Can anybody help me with this?! ... 1: Once I read that in the land of black ice there is a place called Hollow. Hollow is the world of Mystara, am I correct? 2: While searching for Oerik maps I found a "Skothar as Oerik" map on the Mystara Setting web site. What is the relation between the Mystara Setting and the Greyhawk Setting?
#2 zombiegleemax Feb 22, 2004 9:54:10	Can anybody help me with this?! ... 1: Once I read that in the land of black ice there is a place called Hollow. Hollow is the world of Mystara, am I correct? Well, the world of Mystara is hollow. Oerth, as far as anyone knows, is not. No connection there. 2: While searching for Oerik maps I found a "Skothar as Oerik" map on the Mystara Setting web site. Hmm. I'd have to take a look at the site myself. Do you have a link?
#3 eric_anondson Feb 22, 2004 11:41:16	Mystara is the world where the Hollow World setting fits. It would take great efforts to slide this into Oerth, but it would be interesting in the outcome. The Immortals of Mystara have duplicated extinct cultures and races and placed them in the Hollow World. The Immortals cast the Spell of Preservation upon the Hollow World so as to ensure the people inside didn't change culturally, no matter how much cultural interaction they had with other Hollow World people. It would be interesting to imagine which Oerth cultures might have been preserved in a Hollow World by gods like is done on Mystara. Interestingly, I read once that Gary Gygax once considered placing a Pellucidar-like world deep within Oerth back when it was under his creative control. Pellucidar, for those who don't know, is a collection of novels by Edgar Rice Burroughs, written back in the 1930's, that posits that planet Earth is actually hollow. It is discovered, explored, and conquered during the course of novels. ERB is one of EGG's acknowledged influences. What relation is there between Mystara and Oerth? Not much. Mystara as a world evolved out of the continuation of the OD&D line of products in the 1980's, while Greyhawk moved along into AD&D with Gary while he developed those rules. Mystara first appeared in any form with the X1 Isle of Dread module that came with the Expert Set, the map of the continent far to the north of the Isle of Dread was it. Slowly, that continent was fleshed out with accessories and further OD&D modules. As Mystara's history was developed, it adopted Dave Arneson's "Blackmoor" into the setting, but rather as something that occurred thosands of years in the setting's history. This is when the D&D Blackmoor adventures were published. However, early in D&D's development in the 1970's Dave Arneson occasionally DM'd Gary Gygax and friends, who would bring their favorite characters, in Blackmoor. I guess Gary enjoyed it enough to want to develop a "pseudo-verisimilitude" about those sessions because he placed a "Blackmoor" in the northern Flanaess. Regards, Eric Anondson
#4 zombiegleemax Feb 22, 2004 21:36:55	Hello friends! Hummm... Thanx Eric! In fact I was reading the Oerth Journal#3 and there I could find this information u posted here! :D Visit this link... http://www.dnd.starflung.com/maps.html ... and search for the "Skothar as Oerik: A Mystaran Flanaess"
#5 despotrix Feb 24, 2004 3:11:05	That Skothar/Oerik map is just a "what if?" idea one of the Mystara fans had. There is no official relationship between the settings. However, that map is excellently done, and anyone who hasn't developed much of Oerth "beyond the flanaess" could definately consider using it as a foundation for their "whole oerth". Here's the direct link, btw http://www.dnd.starflung.com/mystghmp.jpg It's by James Mishler, one of the primary contributors to Vaults of Pandius.
#6 zombiegleemax Feb 24, 2004 23:25:11	Humm... Thanx Despotrix!!! Well, it´s really a good map, but i think the "original" oerth is better! Hummm... by the way, i have in my hands an old oerth map which shows places like "Zindia", "Elven Lands", "Dragon Isles" and etc, beyond the Flanaess. I think this map was released in a Dragon or Dungeon Magazine (i don´t know for sure)... Does anybody has any information about this places?