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#1
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Mar 02, 2004 2:01:56 Anyone else notice that Unearthed Arcana, unlike nearly all the other non-core WotC d20 books, is actually covered under the OGL?
#2
elonarc
Mar 02, 2004 2:15:31 No, I didn't. Sharp eye, Mr Darkhelm.
So we can exploit some of the ideas for Dark Sun…
[begins making notes for his "Player's and DM's Options for Dark Sun" project]
#3
Shei-Nad
Mar 02, 2004 2:24:09 I'll be using many of those in all my campaigns, including my conversion of DS. Spell points and vitalisation first and formost.
#4
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Mar 02, 2004 2:30:14 Also, it appears that the material from the Epic Level Handbook has been added to the 3.5 SRD.

I actually had been developing many modifications for my campaign setting, T4W (The Four Worlds). However, I hadn't completed the rules for the modifications. Unearthed Arcana had about 90% of my mods already included in it, and codified for my convenience, so I can just pluck it out and continue.
#5
Kamelion
Mar 02, 2004 4:08:01 Still drinking from the firehose... ;)

But it's an amazing read. I'm drafting a set of paragon/racial classes for DS races (starting lightly, dipping my toe) but pretty much everything I read in there seems to have one application or another to Dark Sun. Prism (iirc) already mentioned the variant summoning lists - specific ones for the various elements and subtypes of wizardry would be great. A DS-specific metamagic component list would also rule. But I think my head would come off if I went anywhere near anything like that right now
#6
nytcrawlr
Mar 02, 2004 13:50:11
Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
Also, it appears that the material from the Epic Level Handbook has been added to the 3.5 SRD.

Can't believe you are just now noticing that, heh.

Guess you don't have the 3.5 DMG either. :D

Sorry, just noticed this some time back and jumped up for joy since we had discussed DS and Epic during GenCon and noticed that Epic wasn't OGL yet.

Damn glad they changed their mind.

:bounce:
#7
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Mar 02, 2004 14:18:39
Originally posted by NytCrawlr
Can't believe you are just now noticing that, heh.

Guess you don't have the 3.5 DMG either. :D

Sorry, just noticed this some time back and jumped up for joy since we had discussed DS and Epic during GenCon and noticed that Epic wasn't OGL yet.

Damn glad they changed their mind.

:bounce:

I don't mean the epic material that was in the 3.5 DMG. I downloaded the 3.5 SRD back when it was first released. They have since added *everything* from the ELH into the SRD, including the PrC's and Epic Spellcasting. It's far more complete than it used to be.
#8
nytcrawlr
Mar 02, 2004 15:42:41
Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
I don't mean the epic material that was in the 3.5 DMG. I downloaded the 3.5 SRD back when it was first released. They have since added *everything* from the ELH into the SRD, including the PrC's and Epic Spellcasting. It's far more complete than it used to be.

Ah, ok that's different, though I hope they kept the classes and stuff that was presented in the DMG 3.5 in the SRD and not replaced it with what was already in ELH since they changed that some.

Good to see most of that book is in there now, as well as UA.
#9
zombiegleemax
Mar 02, 2004 19:45:40
Can't believe you are just now noticing that, heh.

Hey now, I hadn't even noticed that either. Last thing I heard was that the biggest hang-up on advanced beings and psionic enhancements was that the ELH wasn't OGL. Gotta grab me a new copy of the SRD then (wow, too many acronyms).

The secondary selling point of Unearthed Arcana was that it was almost 100% OGL. Still don't have my copy yet, but shouldn't be too much longer. Is anyone else that has a copy able to confirm the fine print of that?
#10
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Mar 02, 2004 21:28:50
Originally posted by Mach2.5
The secondary selling point of Unearthed Arcana was that it was almost 100% OGL. Still don't have my copy yet, but shouldn't be too much longer. Is anyone else that has a copy able to confirm the fine print of that?

Ahem, and I quote:

Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
Anyone else notice that Unearthed Arcana, unlike nearly all the other non-core WotC d20 books, is actually covered under the OGL?

The OGL is promanently shown on the last page of the book. That makes UA, MM2, and (through the fact it is included in the SRD) the ELH currently the only non "core" d20 books from WotC that I know of which are covered under the OGL (I include the Psionics Handbook under the heading of "core" materiall, as well as PHB, MM, and DMG).
#11
nytcrawlr
Mar 02, 2004 22:44:29
Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
The OGL is promanently shown on the last page of the book. That makes UA, MM2, and (through the fact it is included in the SRD) the ELH currently the only non "core" d20 books from WotC that I know of which are covered under the OGL (I include the Psionics Handbook under the heading of "core" materiall, as well as PHB, MM, and DMG).

Didn't think the entire MM2 was in the OGL, just part of it.

That's good to hear though.
#12
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Mar 02, 2004 23:05:49
Originally posted by NytCrawlr
Didn't think the entire MM2 was in the OGL, just part of it.

That's good to hear though.

It might just be part of it. Really hard to tell, unless the coloration/page images are supposed to define it.
#13
zombiegleemax
Mar 03, 2004 0:00:29 WOTC is still keeping a few choice monsters in tow, likely there are a couple in the MM2 that will not be making an appearence in the SRD. I simply wasn't sure if UA was 100% OGL or not, there seems to be a bit of confusion in a couple of the threads I've read.

The OGL is promanently shown on the last page of the book.

That actually doesn't matter much. Its still up to the publisher to define exactly what is OGL and what is product identity. If it goes on to define that all material presented is OGL, then badabing, its drinks all around. Otherwise, they'll specify what sections are PI.
#14
Kamelion
Mar 03, 2004 4:03:58 From the Credits page:
"Except for the material designated as Product Identity (see above; the usual trademark stuff plus a few monsters - M) and the githyanki/githzerai, slaadi and yuan-ti bloodlines in Chapter 1, the contents of this Wizards of the Coast game product are Open Game Content, as defined in the blah di blah di blah ..."

It's almost entirely ogl
#15
nytcrawlr
Mar 03, 2004 8:37:56
Originally posted by Kamelion
From the Credits page:
"Except for the material designated as Product Identity (see above; the usual trademark stuff plus a few monsters - M) and the githyanki/githzerai, slaadi and yuan-ti bloodlines in Chapter 1, the contents of this Wizards of the Coast game product are Open Game Content, as defined in the blah di blah di blah ..."

It's almost entirely ogl

That, freaking, rocks!

:bounce:
#16
zombiegleemax
Mar 03, 2004 15:34:07
and the githyanki/githzerai, slaadi and yuan-ti bloodlines in Chapter 1

AAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGG!

Why WOTC!?!?! Why must thou covet the all to cool yuan-ti for thine self? Release it. Let it be free! Your ruining my campaign exansion!

Ahh well, at least the rest is kosher.
#17
ranger_reg
Mar 03, 2004 17:07:48 If you want to do a product on Yuan-Ti for distribution, go and contact Wizards for permission. The only worst thing they can do is say "no."
#18
zombiegleemax
Mar 03, 2004 22:19:04 Please excuse me for sounding stupid, but what is about the MM 2 being OGC (or parts of it even)? I knew the monsters on p. 220 and 221 were , but when did the rest become OGC?

I've been googling to find the answer, but all I come up with is about how WOTC messed up section 15 in their OGL statement or some such crap. Anyone care to enlighten me more? (links are more than welcome!) ;)
#19
nytcrawlr
Mar 03, 2004 22:28:28
Originally posted by mason
Please excuse me for sounding stupid, but what is about the MM 2 being OGC (or parts of it even)? I knew the monsters on p. 220 and 221 were , but when did the rest become OGC?

I've been googling to find the answer, but all I come up with is about how WOTC messed up section 15 in their OGL statement or some such crap. Anyone care to enlighten me more? (links are more than welcome!) ;)

Yeah, I agree, I just think it's those two pages, says so in the OGL at the end I do believe.
#20
zombiegleemax
Mar 03, 2004 22:40:54 :sad: Aww man! I started to have my hopes up. Oh well. Speaking of OGL and all, does anyone know if the material from the X Psi handbook will be in the SRD when the book hits the shelves, or will it be months? Years??

And speaking of UA, is anyone else going to try that "Players roll all the dice" rules? It sounds interesting to me, but I'm afraid it'll slow down combat even more.
#21
ranger_reg
Mar 04, 2004 3:35:46 Talk to Andy Smith on the d20 General forum. So far, he's added material from the Epic-Level Handbook to the SRD.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Mar 02, 2004 2:01:56	Anyone else notice that Unearthed Arcana, unlike nearly all the other non-core WotC d20 books, is actually covered under the OGL?
#2 elonarc Mar 02, 2004 2:15:31	No, I didn't. Sharp eye, Mr Darkhelm. So we can exploit some of the ideas for Dark Sun… [begins making notes for his "Player's and DM's Options for Dark Sun" project]
#3 Shei-Nad Mar 02, 2004 2:24:09	I'll be using many of those in all my campaigns, including my conversion of DS. Spell points and vitalisation first and formost.
#4 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Mar 02, 2004 2:30:14	Also, it appears that the material from the Epic Level Handbook has been added to the 3.5 SRD. I actually had been developing many modifications for my campaign setting, T4W (The Four Worlds). However, I hadn't completed the rules for the modifications. Unearthed Arcana had about 90% of my mods already included in it, and codified for my convenience, so I can just pluck it out and continue.
#5 Kamelion Mar 02, 2004 4:08:01	Still drinking from the firehose... ;) But it's an amazing read. I'm drafting a set of paragon/racial classes for DS races (starting lightly, dipping my toe) but pretty much everything I read in there seems to have one application or another to Dark Sun. Prism (iirc) already mentioned the variant summoning lists - specific ones for the various elements and subtypes of wizardry would be great. A DS-specific metamagic component list would also rule. But I think my head would come off if I went anywhere near anything like that right now
#6 nytcrawlr Mar 02, 2004 13:50:11	Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm Also, it appears that the material from the Epic Level Handbook has been added to the 3.5 SRD. Can't believe you are just now noticing that, heh. Guess you don't have the 3.5 DMG either. :D Sorry, just noticed this some time back and jumped up for joy since we had discussed DS and Epic during GenCon and noticed that Epic wasn't OGL yet. Damn glad they changed their mind. :bounce:
#7 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Mar 02, 2004 14:18:39	Originally posted by NytCrawlr Can't believe you are just now noticing that, heh. Guess you don't have the 3.5 DMG either. :D Sorry, just noticed this some time back and jumped up for joy since we had discussed DS and Epic during GenCon and noticed that Epic wasn't OGL yet. Damn glad they changed their mind. :bounce: I don't mean the epic material that was in the 3.5 DMG. I downloaded the 3.5 SRD back when it was first released. They have since added everything from the ELH into the SRD, including the PrC's and Epic Spellcasting. It's far more complete than it used to be.
#8 nytcrawlr Mar 02, 2004 15:42:41	Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm I don't mean the epic material that was in the 3.5 DMG. I downloaded the 3.5 SRD back when it was first released. They have since added everything from the ELH into the SRD, including the PrC's and Epic Spellcasting. It's far more complete than it used to be. Ah, ok that's different, though I hope they kept the classes and stuff that was presented in the DMG 3.5 in the SRD and not replaced it with what was already in ELH since they changed that some. Good to see most of that book is in there now, as well as UA.
#9 zombiegleemax Mar 02, 2004 19:45:40	Can't believe you are just now noticing that, heh. Hey now, I hadn't even noticed that either. Last thing I heard was that the biggest hang-up on advanced beings and psionic enhancements was that the ELH wasn't OGL. Gotta grab me a new copy of the SRD then (wow, too many acronyms). The secondary selling point of Unearthed Arcana was that it was almost 100% OGL. Still don't have my copy yet, but shouldn't be too much longer. Is anyone else that has a copy able to confirm the fine print of that?
#10 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Mar 02, 2004 21:28:50	Originally posted by Mach2.5 The secondary selling point of Unearthed Arcana was that it was almost 100% OGL. Still don't have my copy yet, but shouldn't be too much longer. Is anyone else that has a copy able to confirm the fine print of that? Ahem, and I quote: Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm Anyone else notice that Unearthed Arcana, unlike nearly all the other non-core WotC d20 books, is actually covered under the OGL? The OGL is promanently shown on the last page of the book. That makes UA, MM2, and (through the fact it is included in the SRD) the ELH currently the only non "core" d20 books from WotC that I know of which are covered under the OGL (I include the Psionics Handbook under the heading of "core" materiall, as well as PHB, MM, and DMG).
#11 nytcrawlr Mar 02, 2004 22:44:29	Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm The OGL is promanently shown on the last page of the book. That makes UA, MM2, and (through the fact it is included in the SRD) the ELH currently the only non "core" d20 books from WotC that I know of which are covered under the OGL (I include the Psionics Handbook under the heading of "core" materiall, as well as PHB, MM, and DMG). Didn't think the entire MM2 was in the OGL, just part of it. That's good to hear though.
#12 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Mar 02, 2004 23:05:49	Originally posted by NytCrawlr Didn't think the entire MM2 was in the OGL, just part of it. That's good to hear though. It might just be part of it. Really hard to tell, unless the coloration/page images are supposed to define it.
#13 zombiegleemax Mar 03, 2004 0:00:29	WOTC is still keeping a few choice monsters in tow, likely there are a couple in the MM2 that will not be making an appearence in the SRD. I simply wasn't sure if UA was 100% OGL or not, there seems to be a bit of confusion in a couple of the threads I've read. The OGL is promanently shown on the last page of the book. That actually doesn't matter much. Its still up to the publisher to define exactly what is OGL and what is product identity. If it goes on to define that all material presented is OGL, then badabing, its drinks all around. Otherwise, they'll specify what sections are PI.
#14 Kamelion Mar 03, 2004 4:03:58	From the Credits page: "Except for the material designated as Product Identity (see above; the usual trademark stuff plus a few monsters - M) and the githyanki/githzerai, slaadi and yuan-ti bloodlines in Chapter 1, the contents of this Wizards of the Coast game product are Open Game Content, as defined in the blah di blah di blah ..." It's almost entirely ogl
#15 nytcrawlr Mar 03, 2004 8:37:56	Originally posted by Kamelion From the Credits page: "Except for the material designated as Product Identity (see above; the usual trademark stuff plus a few monsters - M) and the githyanki/githzerai, slaadi and yuan-ti bloodlines in Chapter 1, the contents of this Wizards of the Coast game product are Open Game Content, as defined in the blah di blah di blah ..." It's almost entirely ogl That, freaking, rocks! :bounce:
#16 zombiegleemax Mar 03, 2004 15:34:07	and the githyanki/githzerai, slaadi and yuan-ti bloodlines in Chapter 1 AAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGG! Why WOTC!?!?! Why must thou covet the all to cool yuan-ti for thine self? Release it. Let it be free! Your ruining my campaign exansion! Ahh well, at least the rest is kosher.
#17 ranger_reg Mar 03, 2004 17:07:48	If you want to do a product on Yuan-Ti for distribution, go and contact Wizards for permission. The only worst thing they can do is say "no."
#18 zombiegleemax Mar 03, 2004 22:19:04	Please excuse me for sounding stupid, but what is about the MM 2 being OGC (or parts of it even)? I knew the monsters on p. 220 and 221 were , but when did the rest become OGC? I've been googling to find the answer, but all I come up with is about how WOTC messed up section 15 in their OGL statement or some such crap. Anyone care to enlighten me more? (links are more than welcome!) ;)
#19 nytcrawlr Mar 03, 2004 22:28:28	Originally posted by mason Please excuse me for sounding stupid, but what is about the MM 2 being OGC (or parts of it even)? I knew the monsters on p. 220 and 221 were , but when did the rest become OGC? I've been googling to find the answer, but all I come up with is about how WOTC messed up section 15 in their OGL statement or some such crap. Anyone care to enlighten me more? (links are more than welcome!) ;) Yeah, I agree, I just think it's those two pages, says so in the OGL at the end I do believe.
#20 zombiegleemax Mar 03, 2004 22:40:54	:sad: Aww man! I started to have my hopes up. Oh well. Speaking of OGL and all, does anyone know if the material from the X Psi handbook will be in the SRD when the book hits the shelves, or will it be months? Years?? And speaking of UA, is anyone else going to try that "Players roll all the dice" rules? It sounds interesting to me, but I'm afraid it'll slow down combat even more.
#21 ranger_reg Mar 04, 2004 3:35:46	Talk to Andy Smith on the d20 General forum. So far, he's added material from the Epic-Level Handbook to the SRD.