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Cosmology of Planescape

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#1
zombiegleemax
Mar 03, 2004 9:38:17 I was not pleased that Deities and Demigods did not include information on more pantheons or suggest which plane in the D&D cosmology the Greek, Norse and Egyptian pantheons could be found. I know that I can always refer to my 2nd edition On Hallowed Ground, but it would have made a nice appendix.

For those of you running Planescape 3.0/3.5...

Have incorporated the all deities into the D&D cosmology or are you using only D&D cosmology?
#2
incenjucar
Mar 03, 2004 13:48:10 Planescape includes all D&D pantheons and the best-known real world pantheons. Everything from Sumerian deities to Egyptian and Greek and Norse and Native American, etc etc etc.
#3
sildatorak
Mar 03, 2004 15:30:20
Originally posted by Biomage
Greek, Norse and Egyptian pantheons

Mainly Arborea (Olympus), Ysgard, and I don't know where, respectively. Mainy individual powers also have another realm elsewhere (Tyr, for example).
#4
primemover003
Mar 03, 2004 15:45:47 Greek=Arborea, layer the 1st, Realm Mt. Olympus
Norse=Ysgard, layer the 1st, Realm Asgard
Egyptian=Arcadia, layer the 2nd (IIRC), Realm Heliopolis
Celts=Outlands, Realm Tir Na Og

If you have PS and OHG you should already know where these are...
#5
zombiegleemax
Mar 03, 2004 22:43:49 I know where the deities are located. I am just trying to figure out if anyone plays exclusively with the D&D (Greyhawk) cosmology. I am considering giving it a try in my next campaign and was wondering if anyone has tried it.

Has anyone?
#6
zombiegleemax
Mar 03, 2004 23:16:06 If by D&D Cosmology you mean the sheer screed perpetrated in and propogated by the pages of the monstrosity so arrogantly called the Manual of the Planes; the book whose abbreviation, MoP, blatantly suggests a device which can be used to cleanse the floor of its remains after its ritual shredding and burning; the warped, twisted, battered and broken shadow of what the cosmology once was; the festering wound of mixed inner and outer planes mingled with a largely useless ethereal; the overpriced slander on the good name of the Great Wheel...

No.
#7
kuje31
Mar 03, 2004 23:31:03 I think what he means by the D&D deities, he means just those found in Greyhawk. Those are the standard D&D deities now.

I think he is trying to say he just wants to use the D&D deities in thier own cosmology, basically that is what 3e has done to the FR deities as well.
#8
zombiegleemax
Mar 04, 2004 0:18:47 Thats what I hate about 3rd edition. In second addition, there were no standard D&D gods, there was no standard D&D campaign world. Everything, every rule, every monster, every class was OPTIONAL.

The only thing that wasn't optional, was the Cosmology(the true D&D one still in my book).

3rd edition D&D and 2nd edition AD&D are polar opposites, and there is no 3rd edition AD&D.
#9
zombiegleemax
Mar 04, 2004 3:37:55 I've been wondering about those gods for a while too.

I got the MotP and Deities and Demigods, and I was somewhat dissapointed when I saw that most of the deities wasn't placed in the Planescape cosmology.
#10
zombiegleemax
Mar 04, 2004 12:10:44 Some Planescape products mention Greyhawk Gods, like Iuz(whos Grazzt, the Abyssal Lord's son!).
#11
zombiegleemax
Mar 29, 2004 16:26:17
I was not pleased that Deities and Demigods did not include information on more pantheons or suggest which plane in the D&D cosmology the Greek, Norse and Egyptian pantheons could be found. I know that I can always refer to my 2nd edition On Hallowed Ground, but it would have made a nice appendix.

According to Deities and Demigods, the Greek pantheon is not part of the D&D cosmology, but has its own. In any case, I think that Planescape should have its own cosmology, based on the 1 & 2E conception of the planes.
#12
dungeonmogrii
Mar 30, 2004 21:49:51 The Planescape Campaign Setting has a list of Powers by Plane that contains every God and power ever used for second edition
From Japanese to Egyptian to Aztec, including each and every campaign setting and racial powers. The Powers are listed from the Outer, Inner, Astral, Ethereal & Demiplanes, Prime Material and even wandering and unknown. Look for it.
#13
zombiegleemax
Mar 31, 2004 16:45:46 In the 3E standard cosmology, the arrangement of the planes has been drastically altered ( the Astral Plane now surrounds all others, the Deep Ethereal has been abolished, and the Para- and Quasi- Elemental Planes have apparently disappeared) and many of the gods have been removed to separate cosmologies. However, as I have said, a Planescape campaign should retain the original cosmology.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Mar 03, 2004 9:38:17	I was not pleased that Deities and Demigods did not include information on more pantheons or suggest which plane in the D&D cosmology the Greek, Norse and Egyptian pantheons could be found. I know that I can always refer to my 2nd edition On Hallowed Ground, but it would have made a nice appendix. For those of you running Planescape 3.0/3.5... Have incorporated the all deities into the D&D cosmology or are you using only D&D cosmology?
#2 incenjucar Mar 03, 2004 13:48:10	Planescape includes all D&D pantheons and the best-known real world pantheons. Everything from Sumerian deities to Egyptian and Greek and Norse and Native American, etc etc etc.
#3 sildatorak Mar 03, 2004 15:30:20	Originally posted by Biomage Greek, Norse and Egyptian pantheons Mainly Arborea (Olympus), Ysgard, and I don't know where, respectively. Mainy individual powers also have another realm elsewhere (Tyr, for example).
#4 primemover003 Mar 03, 2004 15:45:47	Greek=Arborea, layer the 1st, Realm Mt. Olympus Norse=Ysgard, layer the 1st, Realm Asgard Egyptian=Arcadia, layer the 2nd (IIRC), Realm Heliopolis Celts=Outlands, Realm Tir Na Og If you have PS and OHG you should already know where these are...
#5 zombiegleemax Mar 03, 2004 22:43:49	I know where the deities are located. I am just trying to figure out if anyone plays exclusively with the D&D (Greyhawk) cosmology. I am considering giving it a try in my next campaign and was wondering if anyone has tried it. Has anyone?
#6 zombiegleemax Mar 03, 2004 23:16:06	If by D&D Cosmology you mean the sheer screed perpetrated in and propogated by the pages of the monstrosity so arrogantly called the Manual of the Planes; the book whose abbreviation, MoP, blatantly suggests a device which can be used to cleanse the floor of its remains after its ritual shredding and burning; the warped, twisted, battered and broken shadow of what the cosmology once was; the festering wound of mixed inner and outer planes mingled with a largely useless ethereal; the overpriced slander on the good name of the Great Wheel... No.
#7 kuje31 Mar 03, 2004 23:31:03	I think what he means by the D&D deities, he means just those found in Greyhawk. Those are the standard D&D deities now. I think he is trying to say he just wants to use the D&D deities in thier own cosmology, basically that is what 3e has done to the FR deities as well.
#8 zombiegleemax Mar 04, 2004 0:18:47	Thats what I hate about 3rd edition. In second addition, there were no standard D&D gods, there was no standard D&D campaign world. Everything, every rule, every monster, every class was OPTIONAL. The only thing that wasn't optional, was the Cosmology(the true D&D one still in my book). 3rd edition D&D and 2nd edition AD&D are polar opposites, and there is no 3rd edition AD&D.
#9 zombiegleemax Mar 04, 2004 3:37:55	I've been wondering about those gods for a while too. I got the MotP and Deities and Demigods, and I was somewhat dissapointed when I saw that most of the deities wasn't placed in the Planescape cosmology.
#10 zombiegleemax Mar 04, 2004 12:10:44	Some Planescape products mention Greyhawk Gods, like Iuz(whos Grazzt, the Abyssal Lord's son!).
#11 zombiegleemax Mar 29, 2004 16:26:17	I was not pleased that Deities and Demigods did not include information on more pantheons or suggest which plane in the D&D cosmology the Greek, Norse and Egyptian pantheons could be found. I know that I can always refer to my 2nd edition On Hallowed Ground, but it would have made a nice appendix. According to Deities and Demigods, the Greek pantheon is not part of the D&D cosmology, but has its own. In any case, I think that Planescape should have its own cosmology, based on the 1 & 2E conception of the planes.
#12 dungeonmogrii Mar 30, 2004 21:49:51	The Planescape Campaign Setting has a list of Powers by Plane that contains every God and power ever used for second edition From Japanese to Egyptian to Aztec, including each and every campaign setting and racial powers. The Powers are listed from the Outer, Inner, Astral, Ethereal & Demiplanes, Prime Material and even wandering and unknown. Look for it.
#13 zombiegleemax Mar 31, 2004 16:45:46	In the 3E standard cosmology, the arrangement of the planes has been drastically altered ( the Astral Plane now surrounds all others, the Deep Ethereal has been abolished, and the Para- and Quasi- Elemental Planes have apparently disappeared) and many of the gods have been removed to separate cosmologies. However, as I have said, a Planescape campaign should retain the original cosmology.