Anybody else have a wish list for SP?
1. Age of Might book (ala Age of Mortals)
2. Age of Dreams book
3. An updated Otherlands-style book
4. A Taladas expansion/accessory (that includes its history throughout all 5 ages and suggestions for roleplaying in those ages)
5. A Heroes/Villains booklet detailing major good guys/bad guys from all Ages
6. A city book detailing Palanthas
7. A book detailing the Holy Orders of the Stars
8. A class booklet focusing on the new core classes introduced in the Dragonlance Campaign Setting (e.g. Noble, Mystic, Mariner) with prestige classes, feats, spells, domains, and all other manner of crunchy bits.
That is all. ;)
2) Taladas setting
3) Holy Order of the Stars (with more than just Human insights into them and PrC's for the gods ans not just the human ones); I want some Minotaur perspective here,hehe
Originally posted by iltharanos
8. A class booklet focusing on the new core classes introduced in the Dragonlance Campaign Setting (e.g. Noble, Mystic, Mariner) with prestige classes, feats, spells, domains, and all other manner of crunchy bits.
Like the original splatbooks? Is that what you're getting at? Hmmmm....thats a pretty interesting idea. Although, I could definitely see it go the way The Saga Companion did. That might work out well....It could detail some things about those classes you mentioned...and give a few variant rules pertinant to DL, and a bunch of PrC's that just wont fit anywhere else, perhaps like the fan made PrC's. (ex.Dragonhelm's Knight of the Heart) Id definitely buy a book like that.
You know, if Ansalon is so small, it might not be a bad idea to bring Ansalon, the Spine of Taladas, the Irda Isles, and Taladas itself into one big campaign setting.
It isn't as if they don't fit together anymore. 5th Age magic, thinker gnomes and afflicted pretty much made Taladas and Ansalon fit together now quite nicely. Far from being the "backwards Ansalon" it seems to be its twin brother now.
Now if we can just convince SP to do it...;)
AFAIK, there are already plans for a Holy Order of the Stars book.
Palanthas has also been detailed in a SAGA book.
I just want the War of the Lance book!
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
Originally posted by wolffenjugend
Ansalon is big enough without Taladas. No need for two of everything (minotaurs, gnomes, dragons, etc.).
Palanthas has also been detailed in a SAGA book.
Well....Actually Ansalon isnt all that big...No matter where you are in the continent you should be able to reach your destination in a matter of days........Taladas would be a nice addition simply because it is just as diverse as Ansalon...besides its a little hard to believe that there wouldnt be contact between the continents for this long....
And as far as Palanthas goes....It could use a revamped description....Obviously since the War of Souls things will have changed there...and Im sure big things are bound to happen there.
Originally posted by Serena DarkMyst
Like the original splatbooks? Is that what you're getting at? Hmmmm....thats a pretty interesting idea. Although, I could definitely see it go the way The Saga Companion did. That might work out well....It could detail some things about those classes you mentioned...and give a few variant rules pertinant to DL, and a bunch of PrC's that just wont fit anywhere else, perhaps like the fan made PrC's. (ex.Dragonhelm's Knight of the Heart) Id definitely buy a book like that.
Yep, like the original splatbooks. What'd be interesting would be regional variants of these new DL core classes.
e.g. Solamnic nobles lose x class ability but gain y class ability.
A book of major cities would, however, be a step in the right direction.
2) Gazetteer
3) Race Book along the lines of Races of Faerun but with more details
4) Holy order of the stars book with example temple maps, prstige classes, info on different racial views and general info on religion in the everyday life of Krynnish citizens - plz no deity stats. Take some notes from Green Ronin's Book of the Righteous (I think that is what it is called...)
5) A Big Book of Cities detailing the major cities
7) Umm...surprise me?
PS - What is Taladas?
Originally posted by Serena DarkMyst
Taladas is a major continent to the northeast of Ansalon....very rich and detailed.....most Ansalonians have no idea it is there.....many different races and cultures.....heck, a whole Minotaur Empire....and the Archmanesti elves I believe? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Here ya go MuckNuggle.
Taladas' major highlights include:
-The Minotaur League: A multi-racial empire run by minotaurs consisting of humans, elves, dwarves, kender, gnomes, etc. Each race has its place in the grand scheme of the minotaur leadership.
-The Tamire: A rugged steppe populated by nomadic humans, elves, and goblins ... all of whom constantly war against outlanders and one another.
-Armach: A formerly human land conquered by a group of Lost Silvanesti. The elf-only homeland is called Armach-Nesti.
Serena: I believe the elves still refer to themselves as Silvanesti (or Sylvanesti).
-Thenol: A corrupt theocratic land filled with armies of undead, seeking to expand their control and fill the ranks of their armies.
-Hitehkel: The sore, festering wound of Krynn ... a hundreds-mile wide sea of lava that is crisscrossed and traversed by fire creatures and intrepid gnomes in their ingenius lavaboats.
*This is where the Gnome Companion of the Dead from that recent issue of Dragon Magazine came from.
-The Shining Lands: A land covered in myriad shards of volcanic glass, populated by the Glass Sailors, folk who sail these razor seas as an expression of their faith in the High God.
-The Fisheries: An island archipelago populated by bronze-skinned humans known as the Payan Mako, who share their island with wild goblins and hobgoblins. The real threat though is not from without, but from within. The sinister Shark-Men Cult is more of a threat to the peaceful Payan Mako then any goblinoid raider.
*This is where the Shark-Cultist prestige class from the same Dragon Magazine originated.
There's more, but I'm tired of typing. :D
1. Players Gazetteer for both War of the Lance and Post-War of Soul's eras.
2. Citybooks for places such as Solace, Palanthus, Kalaman, Sanction, Flotsam, Solanthus, Silvanesti, Thorbardin... etc.
3. Races book (Yep, I know, but I'm putting it down anyway) with the missing gnome rules and Tinker PrC.
4. Holy Order of the Stars. Including Druids.
5. Taladas & Otherlands. Perhaps do these as a year of products like SP seem to be doing with DLCS and WotL?
6. Area sourcebooks for places such as the Blood Sea, Sable's swamp, Plains of Dust, Ergoth, IceWall...etc.
7. Age of Istar era books.
Also, I'd like to ask that SP be quite stingy with prestige classes and then only make/publish those that are specific to the setting. Spellfilch (from AoM), for instance is just a wizard/thief and has no tie to the setting. Less PrC's like this and more like Solamnic Auxilary Mage and Kender Nightstalker.
Just my ideas.
I just had another idea. What about a compendium of major NPCs? All updated to 3.5 stats with background/personality info. That would save space in other sourcebooks and make for one easy to locate tome of NPCs. They could even have a heading for each that indicates the era(s) they exist in.
And a cartoon tv show...how do you think pokemon and yugio got so popular...can you picture Dragonlance on cartoon network?
Originally posted by iltharanos
Spellfilch originated in one of the SAGA products, and so does actually have a tie to the Dragonlance setting.
I wasn't aware of that, but it is still just a Wizard/Rogue class and as such isn't needed really. Prestige Classes are meant to represent special Orders such as the KoS, KoN and the Orders of High Sorcery.
Wait...heres an idea....A large volume with expanded information on the new base classes in DL (Mariner, Mystic, Noble), a large helping of Dragonlance specific feats, a section entirely on variant rules for the setting, and then bunches of PrCs. There could be many sources for PrC's for this book, such as the SAGA products...fan created PrC's (ex. Knight of the Heart)<----loved that one) Oh and perhaps a chapter with articles on roleplaying the more difficult races/classes (kender, gnomes, mystic)
We could take a page from WotC and call it......
"Player's Guide to Ansalon"
Originally posted by SweetMeats
I wasn't aware of that, but it is still just a Wizard/Rogue class and as such isn't needed really. Prestige Classes are meant to represent special Orders such as the KoS, KoN and the Orders of High Sorcery.
The role of prestige classes in the D&D game has evolved since 3rd edition was released. Now, membership in an organization is but one of the reasons for a PrC. Others include:
* A class which focuses on an aspect of a given race (such as arcane archer or dwarven defender)
* A class which fits a narrow role in an adventuring society (such as duelist or loremaster)
* A class which represents a specific focus on a singular class ability or feature (such as the exotic weapon master or frenzied berserker)
* A class which helps to make certain otherwise less-favorable options more appealing and balanced (such as the eldritch knight or invisible blade).
I've written a fair number of prestige classes and I'm always aware of the fact that, ultimately, they aren't essential to play a certain concept. You don't need to take the spellfilch PrC to play a rogue/sorcerer, and you don't need to take the Wizard of High Sorcery PrC to play a Krynnish wizard. However, to bring some definition, variety, and further connect characters to the setting, you really can't beat prestige classes.
Cheers,
Cam
Not every concept needs to have a prestige class and in my mind each prestige class has to fit the setting in which it is used. Frenzied Berserker is too generic for any setting, for instance.
Still, go with what feels right for you folks, after all I can just ban them from my game.
Anyone can make a prestige class. That's easy. I'd rather have that space used for enriching the DL world.
1) 300+ page book all about Draconians!
2) 200+ page book all about Draconians!
3) 100+ page book all about Draconians!
Other, lesser, good things would be:
1) Campaign book and novels about the Draconians conquering all those lesser (icky mammals!) races (especially Minotaurs & Kender)and taking over Ansalon.
2) Big book all about Mystics!
3) Holy Order of Stars book
As for prestige classes, I agree with Cam, I think they can and should fill more roles than just orginizations. I'm gald they (WotC) acknowledged in 3.5 that some multiclass combos don't work out to well together and, while it's not perfect, the new "Class Combo PrCs" are very handy. Though I also agree there are a lot of PrCs out there and WotC is putting out more every few months, if there were going to be more PrCs in Dragonlance books I would prefer if they were very world-specific, like racial (Draconian!) specific ones that play on (Draconian!) racial traits/views or orders of knighthood (Draconian knighthoods!) and other world specific orginizations (Draconian Mystics!).
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Originally posted by Fiendish Dire Weasel
Sourcebook?!? Bah! Campaign Setting!!!
:invasion:
Sounds a little too White Wolf for me...
Draconian: The Corrupted
I think not...
Here is my wishlist:
1. Race booklet with a large focus on the Graygem races(since they differ so greatly from their 'standard' D&D version), such as how to properly roleplay a gnome or a kender(not rules, just suggestions please). I would also like stuff like how the races incorporate the core classes into their societies (like how the elves really go about training wizards, since teaching them how to use the longsword and longbow is silly). It would be cool if there was information on the human cultures as well. The games the people play(I want rules for Goblin ball!), the dances they engage in, foods they eat (are elves really vegetarians?), architecture common in such cultures...I can go on and on.
2. A book giving heavy detail to the major cities of Ansalon, such as Palanthas, Sanction, and Solanthus. I want organizations and adventure hooks!
3. A modest book on Taladas (you know, like the size of the DLCS, only bigger...).
4. A very detailed History book.
5. An Atlas, complete with maps. Indiginous(yeah, I know I spelled it wrong...) animal details would be cool. A more detailed array of where monsters are known to be located, etc.
That's about it. I guess I really just want like a five hundred page race book...
The war of the lance book and new intro box should finish the wotl issue once and for all. I want to see new Dragonlance. totally new. lots of fluff, little crunch.
Originally posted by talinthas
I want to see new Dragonlance. totally new. lots of fluff, little crunch.
Personally I won't have a problem with lots of fluff AND crunch.
Cheers,
Cam
Originally posted by Cam Banks
"Lots of fluff and little crunch" would put me out of work. ;)
Cheers,
Cam
But it would make me and a few others quite busy.
1. Races of Ansalon
2. And source books on geography that are similar to Silver Marshes, Unapproachable East and the Underdark… I may not play in FR, but I love reading all the nitty-gritty details and adventure seeds in every section. We could have source books detailing every region on Ansalon… now THAT would be an awesome collection.
3. Of course the Holy of the Stars to go with the Towers of High Sorcery
4. A Warriors of Ansalon would also be cool to detail all the different Warrior organization this would go with the ToHS and HOoS books.
5. A Magic of DragonLance would also be a must to compile all the magic items and spells that have been done already and add new ones.
6. Oops! Almost forgot A book dedicated to Mystics and Sorcerers.
Ok… I’d be dirt poor by now, but it would be cool to have these. heh
Originally posted by talinthas
good lord, again? why ever would you want those mods reprinted? have you read them lately? totally devoid of any real information and putting the onus of actually fleshing them out on the DM. (i just recently tried to run DL1 again)
I think the thing is that they're the most classic of all DL adventures. IMO, there should be some sort of 3e version.
The war of the lance book and new intro box should finish the wotl issue once and for all. I want to see new Dragonlance. totally new. lots of fluff, little crunch.
Definitely, I'd like to see new materials as well. I'd like a mix of creamy and crunchy. That's just the type of peanut butter RPG fan I am. ;)
Originally posted by Dragonhelm
I think the thing is that they're the most classic of all DL adventures. IMO, there should be some sort of 3e version.
Definitely, I'd like to see new materials as well. I'd like a mix of creamy and crunchy. That's just the type of peanut butter RPG fan I am. ;)
Exactly. There's tons of other stuff I'd love to see as well, but there are a lot of people out there, myself included, who prefer the WotL.
For those who think the original DL series were poorly organized and devoid of info, this would be a great chance for Sovereign to clean them up and pack them full of goodness, eh?
2. And source books on geography that are similar to Silver Marshes, Unapproachable East and the Underdark… I may not play in FR, but I love reading all the nitty-gritty details and adventure seeds in every section. We could have source books detailing every region on Ansalon… now THAT would be an awesome collection.
I've got to agree 100% with this, though it would be my number 1 choice. Locations with adventure seeds, new NPCs with related adventure hooks (not necessarily 'important' people, but interesting characters), information on the environment and politics, economy and culture. Building blocks to develop one's own adventures and campaigns in the region.
Simon Collins
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