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Wilders and Psions = Wild talents and Scions?

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#1
Shei-Nad
Mar 28, 2004 16:47:32 Hey. Just a quick thought.

Apparently, from those who got Dungeon 110, psions are confirmed as getting their power level progression as a wizard or cleric, meaning they get their 2nd level powers at 3rd level, their 3rd level powers at 5th level, etc.

Anyways, with the description of the Wilder on wizards.com, I think it could be really easy to incorporate both classes flavorably into Dark Sun in the following way:

Wilders would be wild talents, or rather, wild talents who try and learn to harness and develop their psionic abilities on their own. This doesn't mean wild talents MUST take a level in the Wilder class, but those who do are always wild talents.

Psions, sometimes called scions, are those who follow the schooling of tarandan psiologists, the school which devided the psionic powers into the six schools which they master. Their approach is more refined than that of wilders. Also, this does not mean that a Tarandan Psionlogist Prestige class could be unavailable, since they would represent those who remain close to their school (somewhat like Guild wizards (FR), I guess).

Finally, Wild Talent could still be a Feat or a Template, depending on personal preferences, which would complement both those classes.

Anyways, just my to bits, as the saying goes 'round here.
#2
flip
Mar 28, 2004 17:50:22 Sounds reasonable.
#3
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Mar 29, 2004 16:27:09 Sounds like I was gonna take it. And Psychic Warriors are a kind of wild talent who applies their psionic ability with martial prowess.
#4
beyowulf
Mar 29, 2004 21:18:35
Originally posted by Shei-Nad

Wilders would be wild talents, or rather, wild talents who try and learn to harness and develop their psionic abilities on their own. This doesn't mean wild talents MUST take a level in the Wilder class, but those who do are always wild talents.

Psions, sometimes called scions, are those who follow the schooling of tarandan psiologists, the school which devided the psionic powers into the six schools which they master. Their approach is more refined than that of wilders. Also, this does not mean that a Tarandan Psionlogist Prestige class could be unavailable, since they would represent those who remain close to their school (somewhat like Guild wizards (FR), I guess).

Finally, Wild Talent could still be a Feat or a Template, depending on personal preferences, which would complement both those classes.

So would most Athasian Psionicists be Wilders, and Tarandans would be reserved soley for Psions?
#5
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Mar 29, 2004 22:06:56 I'd almost leave that distinction more for prestige classes. Psions are more like WIzards, while Wilders would be probably more like Sorcerers. However, in normal D&D situations, most prestige classes that one can gain, the other can almost as easily. I'd say that Psions are more inclined towards Tarandian schools than Wilders are, however.
#6
psiseveredhead
Mar 31, 2004 18:11:20 In many cases you're looking at a flavor difference. The halflings, for instance, didn't have the same psionic tradition as the humans, so I guess most psychic halflings would be wilders. This would be especially true for the rhul-thaun.

The same applies to human and half-giant "tribal" psychics. I expect dwarves, elves, kreen and most humans psychics would end up being psions, however.

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#1 Shei-Nad Mar 28, 2004 16:47:32	Hey. Just a quick thought. Apparently, from those who got Dungeon 110, psions are confirmed as getting their power level progression as a wizard or cleric, meaning they get their 2nd level powers at 3rd level, their 3rd level powers at 5th level, etc. Anyways, with the description of the Wilder on wizards.com, I think it could be really easy to incorporate both classes flavorably into Dark Sun in the following way: Wilders would be wild talents, or rather, wild talents who try and learn to harness and develop their psionic abilities on their own. This doesn't mean wild talents MUST take a level in the Wilder class, but those who do are always wild talents. Psions, sometimes called scions, are those who follow the schooling of tarandan psiologists, the school which devided the psionic powers into the six schools which they master. Their approach is more refined than that of wilders. Also, this does not mean that a Tarandan Psionlogist Prestige class could be unavailable, since they would represent those who remain close to their school (somewhat like Guild wizards (FR), I guess). Finally, Wild Talent could still be a Feat or a Template, depending on personal preferences, which would complement both those classes. Anyways, just my to bits, as the saying goes 'round here.
#2 flip Mar 28, 2004 17:50:22	Sounds reasonable.
#3 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Mar 29, 2004 16:27:09	Sounds like I was gonna take it. And Psychic Warriors are a kind of wild talent who applies their psionic ability with martial prowess.
#4 beyowulf Mar 29, 2004 21:18:35	Originally posted by Shei-Nad Wilders would be wild talents, or rather, wild talents who try and learn to harness and develop their psionic abilities on their own. This doesn't mean wild talents MUST take a level in the Wilder class, but those who do are always wild talents. Psions, sometimes called scions, are those who follow the schooling of tarandan psiologists, the school which devided the psionic powers into the six schools which they master. Their approach is more refined than that of wilders. Also, this does not mean that a Tarandan Psionlogist Prestige class could be unavailable, since they would represent those who remain close to their school (somewhat like Guild wizards (FR), I guess). Finally, Wild Talent could still be a Feat or a Template, depending on personal preferences, which would complement both those classes. So would most Athasian Psionicists be Wilders, and Tarandans would be reserved soley for Psions?
#5 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Mar 29, 2004 22:06:56	I'd almost leave that distinction more for prestige classes. Psions are more like WIzards, while Wilders would be probably more like Sorcerers. However, in normal D&D situations, most prestige classes that one can gain, the other can almost as easily. I'd say that Psions are more inclined towards Tarandian schools than Wilders are, however.
#6 psiseveredhead Mar 31, 2004 18:11:20	In many cases you're looking at a flavor difference. The halflings, for instance, didn't have the same psionic tradition as the humans, so I guess most psychic halflings would be wilders. This would be especially true for the rhul-thaun. The same applies to human and half-giant "tribal" psychics. I expect dwarves, elves, kreen and most humans psychics would end up being psions, however.