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#1
zombiegleemax
Apr 16, 2004 19:56:15 A. What is "Sun Ascending" and "Sun Descending" are these "seasons"? What are "low" and "high Sun"?

B. Is there variation in the setting/rising times of the Sun? I have the Merchant's Calander v1.0 which is mighty handy, but did that ever get updated? I take it that no one wanted to actually say whether the moons were at an angle or anything? I guess I'm just a supreme nerd who wonders about these things.

C. Hi NytCrawler.
#2
nytcrawlr
Apr 16, 2004 20:48:41
Originally posted by AthasianDirge
C. Hi NytCrawler.

Welcome back.

:D
#3
zombiegleemax
Apr 16, 2004 22:26:49 Thanks buddy. But um, were you planning on answering my original post? ;)
#4
nytcrawlr
Apr 16, 2004 22:44:30 I'll have to dig out my books. LOL
#5
Kamelion
Apr 17, 2004 5:18:41 They are seasons. Athas has three seasons: Sun Ascending, Sun Descending and High Sun. The following notes are extracted from the Ivory Triangle box book on Nibenay - not all cities, houses or organizations use the same calendar, it should be noted.

The year starts with Dominary, smack in the middle of High Sun. The day of Highest Sun ("midsummer") marks the start of the year and comes at the end of the festival of Zenalia.
High Sun finishes at the end of the month of Sedulous, following which Sun Descending starts. This season continues through to the end of the month of Hexameron and has the festival of Dessalia in its middle.
Low Sun ("midwinter") comes at the end of Hexameron/start of Morrow. Following Low Sun, the season of Sun Ascending begins and runs through to the end of Anabasis (with the festival of Assalia occuring halfway through the season).
The month of Hoard marks the start of the season of High Sun. The year ends midway through this season of High Sun with the festival of Zenalia. The day of Highest Sun marks the new year.

This help?
#6
gab
Apr 17, 2004 9:07:59 From WJ, p.85:
"Each year is made up of exactly 375 days: the exact time between highest suns. Athasians have no seasons that govern their thinking of time-there is no marked difference in temperature or weather patterns. However, the year is divided into three equal phases: high sun, sun descending, and sun ascending. Highest sun is the first day of the year in the calendar of Tyr and lowest sun indicates the midpoint of the year (which, incidentally, occurs at midnight, and is generally observed in nighttime ceremonies)."

From this, there aren't any seasons in the sense we usually use, where the weather is different. The year is just divided into 3 phases.
#7
zombiegleemax
Apr 17, 2004 14:44:37 Unless the planet has absolutely no axial tilt, then high sun represents summer, the midpoint of high sun being the equivalent of the solstice, while the split between sun ascending and sun descending equates to the winter solstice. Even though the seasons have no noticable weather effects, doesn't mean that the planet has to have even more wonky physics than neccessary.
#8
zombiegleemax
Apr 17, 2004 18:50:13
Originally posted by Mach2.5
Unless the planet has absolutely no axial tilt, then high sun represents summer, the midpoint of high sun being the equivalent of the solstice, while the split between sun ascending and sun descending equates to the winter solstice. Even though the seasons have no noticable weather effects, doesn't mean that the planet has to have even more wonky physics than neccessary.

This is what I'm getting at. Is there any variation on rise/setting times of the sun during high and low sun? Does the sun really disappear at 5 pm and rise at 5 am EVERY SINGLE DAY? Also, do the moons have tilt? Is it true that every time Guthay passes the sun it eclipses it? Is the solar system really just a flat plain?
#9
zombiegleemax
Apr 17, 2004 18:56:21
Is there any variation on rise/setting times of the sun during high and low sun?

I would imagine so, but it may not be a big enough difference in time from one season to the next to cause any kind of seasonal changes.

As for the moons, really doesn't matter much except fluff and descriptiveness. Give them rotations and tilts if you wish, or keep them tidaly locked as you see fit (in mine, Ral is tidal locked, same face always present, but Guthay has a fast rotation at around 3 revolutions per standard orbit).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Apr 16, 2004 19:56:15	A. What is "Sun Ascending" and "Sun Descending" are these "seasons"? What are "low" and "high Sun"? B. Is there variation in the setting/rising times of the Sun? I have the Merchant's Calander v1.0 which is mighty handy, but did that ever get updated? I take it that no one wanted to actually say whether the moons were at an angle or anything? I guess I'm just a supreme nerd who wonders about these things. C. Hi NytCrawler.
#2 nytcrawlr Apr 16, 2004 20:48:41	Originally posted by AthasianDirge C. Hi NytCrawler. Welcome back. :D
#3 zombiegleemax Apr 16, 2004 22:26:49	Thanks buddy. But um, were you planning on answering my original post? ;)
#4 nytcrawlr Apr 16, 2004 22:44:30	I'll have to dig out my books. LOL
#5 Kamelion Apr 17, 2004 5:18:41	They are seasons. Athas has three seasons: Sun Ascending, Sun Descending and High Sun. The following notes are extracted from the Ivory Triangle box book on Nibenay - not all cities, houses or organizations use the same calendar, it should be noted. The year starts with Dominary, smack in the middle of High Sun. The day of Highest Sun ("midsummer") marks the start of the year and comes at the end of the festival of Zenalia. High Sun finishes at the end of the month of Sedulous, following which Sun Descending starts. This season continues through to the end of the month of Hexameron and has the festival of Dessalia in its middle. Low Sun ("midwinter") comes at the end of Hexameron/start of Morrow. Following Low Sun, the season of Sun Ascending begins and runs through to the end of Anabasis (with the festival of Assalia occuring halfway through the season). The month of Hoard marks the start of the season of High Sun. The year ends midway through this season of High Sun with the festival of Zenalia. The day of Highest Sun marks the new year. This help?
#6 gab Apr 17, 2004 9:07:59	From WJ, p.85: "Each year is made up of exactly 375 days: the exact time between highest suns. Athasians have no seasons that govern their thinking of time-there is no marked difference in temperature or weather patterns. However, the year is divided into three equal phases: high sun, sun descending, and sun ascending. Highest sun is the first day of the year in the calendar of Tyr and lowest sun indicates the midpoint of the year (which, incidentally, occurs at midnight, and is generally observed in nighttime ceremonies)." From this, there aren't any seasons in the sense we usually use, where the weather is different. The year is just divided into 3 phases.
#7 zombiegleemax Apr 17, 2004 14:44:37	Unless the planet has absolutely no axial tilt, then high sun represents summer, the midpoint of high sun being the equivalent of the solstice, while the split between sun ascending and sun descending equates to the winter solstice. Even though the seasons have no noticable weather effects, doesn't mean that the planet has to have even more wonky physics than neccessary.
#8 zombiegleemax Apr 17, 2004 18:50:13	Originally posted by Mach2.5 Unless the planet has absolutely no axial tilt, then high sun represents summer, the midpoint of high sun being the equivalent of the solstice, while the split between sun ascending and sun descending equates to the winter solstice. Even though the seasons have no noticable weather effects, doesn't mean that the planet has to have even more wonky physics than neccessary. This is what I'm getting at. Is there any variation on rise/setting times of the sun during high and low sun? Does the sun really disappear at 5 pm and rise at 5 am EVERY SINGLE DAY? Also, do the moons have tilt? Is it true that every time Guthay passes the sun it eclipses it? Is the solar system really just a flat plain?
#9 zombiegleemax Apr 17, 2004 18:56:21	Is there any variation on rise/setting times of the sun during high and low sun? I would imagine so, but it may not be a big enough difference in time from one season to the next to cause any kind of seasonal changes. As for the moons, really doesn't matter much except fluff and descriptiveness. Give them rotations and tilts if you wish, or keep them tidaly locked as you see fit (in mine, Ral is tidal locked, same face always present, but Guthay has a fast rotation at around 3 revolutions per standard orbit).