War of The Lance SB - Downloaded from the Wizards Community, all coding removed by Solauren

War of The Lance SB

Post/Author/DateTime Post
#1
dragontooth
Apr 17, 2004 22:24:10 War of the Lance Source Book. Will that contain information about the whole Age of Despair? Or just the part Time of the Dragon era?

Sorry if this question has already been asked, and Answered don't flame me too much.

2nd question. Will there be a Pre-cataclysm Source book?
I'm sure they could squeeze Age of Starbirth, Age of Dreams, and Age of Might into one book. Not to mention a Pre-cataclysm map hehehehe ;)
#2
zombiegleemax
Apr 17, 2004 23:45:34 lol, yeah, they can shove 9000 years of history into one book ;)

I'd imagine it would be mostly about the WotL, that's a pretty big point in history.
#3
valharic
Apr 18, 2004 5:07:10 I'm not sure how far back the WotL SB will go, but I remember seeing that it will go up to and through the Legends trilogy of novels.

What I'm wandering is what kind of information will it have on the Seekers Movement?
#4
sweetmeats
Apr 18, 2004 7:02:53
Originally posted by Dragontooth

2nd question. Will there be a Pre-cataclysm Source book?
I'm sure they could squeeze Age of Starbirth, Age of Dreams, and Age of Might into one book. Not to mention a Pre-cataclysm map hehehehe ;)

Now this I really would like. I've never run a pre-catcalysm game because I've never really known enough about it.
#5
wolffenjugend_dup
Apr 18, 2004 9:51:28 I think a Kingpriest-era SB would be great!
#6
zombiegleemax
Apr 18, 2004 12:44:52
Originally posted by Dragontooth
War of the Lance Source Book. Will that contain information about the whole Age of Despair? Or just the part Time of the Dragon era?

Sorry if this question has already been asked, and Answered don't flame me too much.

2nd question. Will there be a Pre-cataclysm Source book?
I'm sure they could squeeze Age of Starbirth, Age of Dreams, and Age of Might into one book. Not to mention a Pre-cataclysm map hehehehe ;)

Just as the Age of Mortals sourcebook covered the whole Fifth Age, with special emphasis on the War of Souls, the War of the Lance sourcebook will have all the information you need to run a campaign set in the early Age of Despair, though we focus a good deal on the War of the Lance.

We have ideas for other major sourcebooks, such as the Reign of Istar and the Legend of Huma, but they are not currently in the works.

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
#7
dragontooth
Apr 18, 2004 15:25:40
Originally posted by jechambers
Just as the Age of Mortals sourcebook covered the whole Fifth Age, with special emphasis on the War of Souls, the War of the Lance sourcebook will have all the information you need to run a campaign set in the early Age of Despair, though we focus a good deal on the War of the Lance.

We have ideas for other major sourcebooks, such as the Reign of Istar and the Legend of Huma, but they are not currently in the works.

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.

Thank You Jamie for answering those questions.

I'm sure there is plenty of time to plan for those 2 future source books. Just reading the Kingpriest books, and they got me interested in that period of time.
#8
zombiegleemax
Apr 18, 2004 23:25:02 Yeah, I just finished that trilogy (Kingpriest), was AWESOME. Got me really interested that era too. I'm not sure how I'd handle a campaign in that time line, but would interesting to see how my group handles it. heheh
#9
raistlinrox
Apr 19, 2004 4:18:19 I had heard that Legends might have it's own book.... Jamie, is this true or will that part be in the WotL book as well? Is the WotL going to have the heroes' stats before or after the chronicles start/end? I am mainly just wanting to see what kind of stats they give to Raist at the end of Legends...
#10
zombiegleemax
Apr 19, 2004 6:50:02
Originally posted by raistlinrox
I had heard that Legends might have it's own book.... Jamie, is this true or will that part be in the WotL book as well? Is the WotL going to have the heroes' stats before or after the chronicles start/end? I am mainly just wanting to see what kind of stats they give to Raist at the end of Legends...

Dragonlance Legends is going to have its own sourcebook. War of the Lance will present the heroes as they appear during Chronicles.

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
#11
lorac75
Apr 19, 2004 7:40:55 Will the Legends book cover mostly the pre or post War of the Lance material or will it cover both equally?
#12
zombiegleemax
Apr 19, 2004 7:51:04
Originally posted by lorac75
Will the Legends book cover mostly the pre or post War of the Lance material or will it cover both equally?

The Legends sourcebook (planned for '05) is planned to follow Legends both literally and thematically. It will have coverage of the time periods visited (Istar, Dwarfgate Wars, and even the Krynn with Raistlin as its one remaining god). It will feature tips on campaigns that feature time travel and how to deal with very personal journeys, the seduction of true power, and the possibility of redemption. And, for those who have been waiting, it will detail Raistlin in game terms at the height of his power.

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
#13
zombiegleemax
Apr 19, 2004 8:51:41
Originally posted by jechambers
The Legends sourcebook (planned for '05) is planned to follow Legends both literally and thematically. It will have coverage of the time periods visited (Istar, Dwarfgate Wars, and even the Krynn with Raistlin as its one remaining god). It will feature tips on campaigns that feature time travel and how to deal with very personal journeys, the seduction of true power, and the possibility of redemption.

Awesome! My games have featured all of those elements for years.
#14
lorac75
Apr 19, 2004 8:54:30 That book sounds really great. I can't wait till get my hands on it.
#15
brimstone
Apr 19, 2004 10:51:42
Originally posted by jechambers
It will feature tips on campaigns that feature time travel and how to deal with very personal journeys, the seduction of true power, and the possibility of redemption. And, for those who have been waiting, it will detail Raistlin in game terms at the height of his power.

I don't suppose there's any possibility of getting Tracy to expand on his Legends Appendix of Dragonlance time travel (most specifically...the timelines from that book?)

I had never thought about Legends in that way before...the way he presented the timeline hopping. Finally, it all clicked...all of Legends made sense.

I really hope that if he can't/doesn't do it...that the afore mentioned Appendix (can't remember the letter) will at least be the model.
#16
zombiegleemax
Apr 19, 2004 10:54:34 Whoa...I missed this Legends Appendix of Dragonlance Time Travel...was it printed in Annotated Legends? Please tell me what book to buy so I can get my hands on it!
#17
brimstone
Apr 19, 2004 11:10:54
Originally posted by Curious about Dark Sun
Whoa...I missed this Legends Appendix of Dragonlance Time Travel...was it printed in Annotated Legends? Please tell me what book to buy so I can get my hands on it!

Yep, Annotated Legends.

It had never occured to me that Tas's traveling into the past allowed Rasitlin enter the Abyss and defeat the gods. In fact, it was Tas's accidental trip into the future that saved Tanis, who saved Caramon, who stopped Raistlin from leaving the Abyss.

It really made me rethink everything in Legends. It made my last reading of the trilogy a whole new experience.
#18
daedavias_dup
Apr 19, 2004 11:35:15
Originally posted by jechambers
The Legends sourcebook (planned for '05) is planned to follow Legends both literally and thematically. It will have coverage of the time periods visited (Istar, Dwarfgate Wars, and even the Krynn with Raistlin as its one remaining god). It will feature tips on campaigns that feature time travel and how to deal with very personal journeys, the seduction of true power, and the possibility of redemption. And, for those who have been waiting, it will detail Raistlin in game terms at the height of his power.

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.

That sounds like it will be a very sweet book, Jamie. By any chance would you mind giving us a ball park figure of what level you guys(and girls, don't think I forgot about Margaret and Renae) have planned for Raistlin? I would hope that he will be epic.
#19
zombiegleemax
Apr 19, 2004 12:21:51
it will detail Raistlin in game terms at the height of his power.

You guys are brave. I wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole.
#20
cam_banks
Apr 19, 2004 12:49:48
Originally posted by The Great Egad
You guys are brave. I wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole.

And in 3rd edition, the standard is now a 5 ft. pole. Even more harrowing and dangerous.

Cheers,
Cam
#21
brimstone
Apr 19, 2004 13:01:10
Originally posted by Cam Banks
And in 3rd edition, the standard is now a 5 ft. pole. Even more harrowing and dangerous.

I wonder how many more points I get on the Geek Test because I laughed out loud at this joke?

:D
#22
zombiegleemax
Apr 19, 2004 15:18:22 I hope that these products will come out on time. We have waited almost a year for the 1st module. The War of the Lance and the Legends books will be great, hopefully, there will still be interest in them when they arrive.
#23
ferratus
Apr 19, 2004 16:29:56 Raistlin Shmaistlin. I want geographical and cultural info, much of which I can use in all ages. If I get a FRCS type gazateer in the WotL book, I can renew my interest in the setting. Information on politics, population, major centers, religious preferences, and history of the region (rather than a summary of events in the book line) are what would make a great campaign setting book.

Will you need the DLCS to use the WotL book? I could imagine that the licensing agreement would demand it, but I could also imagine sales would be much better if the 4th Age fans didn't have to buy the DLCS which, aside from the classes, contains 5th Age information.
#24
zombiegleemax
Apr 20, 2004 16:32:01 Of course you will need the Dragonlance Campaign Setting to use any of their gaming products.
#25
wolffenjugend_dup
Apr 20, 2004 19:14:59 Quit being so negative. The DLCS isn't needed, especially if you've got old material. I survived quite fine without it.
#26
ranger_reg
Apr 21, 2004 3:27:17 What is so negative about that?
#27
wolffenjugend_dup
Apr 21, 2004 8:56:24 Read back through the thread.
#28
cam_banks
Apr 21, 2004 9:08:17 The War of the Lance sourcebook is, like the Age of Mortals sourcebook published last year, a companion volume to the Dragonlance Campaign Setting. You will need a copy of the DLCS to make the most out of the WotL book. That's more or less how Sovereign Press products work, as accessories and supplementary volumes to the core DLCS.

Cheers,
Cam
#29
zombiegleemax
Jul 14, 2004 14:40:23 Any idea when some of these products will be released?
#30
qstor
Jul 14, 2004 16:41:00 The War of the lance Sourcebook is supposed to be out at GenCOn

Mike
#31
zombiegleemax
Jul 14, 2004 16:44:42 And sometime in September for those who cannot attend. Not fair!
#32
zombiegleemax
Jul 14, 2004 20:22:12 One note on the "out at Gencon" bit.

That has been said here frequently in the past - and there was a time when I heard that over the phone from someone who oughta know, too.

So it's not wholly wrong to answer that question with that response.

That said, the question has been asked FREQUENTLY in the past few months and Mr. Chambers has studiously avoided answering the question over those same past few months.

Gencon is now not some far away date, but barely a month away.

Given the time it takes to edit, send off reviews and vetting the work at WotC and the time it take to print, I would start to prepare for some serious disappointment if you are expecting to get WotL at Gencon.

ToHS seems to be the likely GenCon book of choice.
#33
raistlinrox
Jul 15, 2004 4:40:26 Time flies when you're having fun waiting for DL books! lol
#34
zombiegleemax
Jul 15, 2004 11:24:32 Uh-oh. Will the books be ready by then? And if so why not make them available on the mass market?
#35
zombiegleemax
Jul 15, 2004 12:02:51
Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
Uh-oh. Will the books be ready by then? And if so why not make them available on the mass market?

The majority of our books are printed overseas, which means shipping them back by (regrettably slow) ocean freight. For special events like GenCon we sometimes undertake expensive air freight to have advance copies to sell, but it would be prohibitively expensive to air freight an entire print run. So while the convention attendees get to enjoy the book's premiere, everyone else has to wait. And the convention premieres are a really vital part of our business plan, so we can't just make the whole run sit on the boat.

Anticipation is a good thing, though, and will give us time for more fun web previews!

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
#36
zombiegleemax
Jul 15, 2004 12:08:24 unless I missed it somewhere, still no infor on when the Towers of High Sorcery will be out.

Also, I am sure that many copies will not be sold at GenCOn, why not make them avaliable to the general public on a website or something?
#37
ferratus
Jul 15, 2004 12:08:45
Originally posted by jechambers

Anticipation is a good thing, though, and will give us time for more fun web previews!

Will there be any "web enhancements"? You know, cool stuff that didn't make it into the book?
#38
zombiegleemax
Jul 15, 2004 12:30:41 That would be interesting. Are the Stats of the Heroes of the Lance going to be presented from the beginning to the end like they were in the orignal series?
#39
zombiegleemax
Jul 15, 2004 13:36:50 Sounds great so far.

And just to be curious. You have mentioned a "Legends" book covering the time Legends takes place, as well as the Dwarfgate Wars and the Cataclysm, yet a Reign of Istar sourcebook and War of the lance book, too. Would the Cataclysm be something detailed more in a Reign of Istar based sourcebook? Or would the latter sourcebook be more intended for detailing the entire 1000 years of the third age, while the Legends book dedicated towards just the ending of it?

Similar question regarding the Dwarfgate wars: I would be REALLY interested in this period of time. I've always thought it was underused and overshadowed by the War of the Lance later on, but would this be more suited for the War of the Lance sourcebook if it is to also include information about the years previous to the War of the Lance, or the Legends book? I hope we can see lots of information for it, regardless. With information on how desperate, sick and stricken with poverty most of the people are during the years following the Cataclysm

Also, I know this has been asked before, and you already have a lot of material and potential books to work with, but I beseech you to consider the possibility of a Chaos War book. I know it might not be as popular a period as others, but that is based on the novels. I think it would make a fantastic gaming supplement. You have first the rise of the Knights of Takhisis, with many possiblities for role playing there, and the war against Chaos, which I've always thought to have limitless potential for campaigns and gaming. Perhaps it may be for something down the road?

One last thing, with the War of the Lance book, I don't suppose there will be any information about the events of the novel "Brothers in Arms" from the Raistlin Chronicles, and perhaps even stats and information for Horkin, the Baron, Scrounger and the army of the Mad Baron? I've always been curious, but whatever happened to them? Obviously a lot of time has elapsed since then, but who wouldn't want to join up with the Mad Baron's army befor the War of the Lance and then perhaps even DURING the War of the Lance.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but no source ever described anything about what happened to them after that particular book, no? Any coverage of them would be most welcome.

Just curious, anyway. It all looks interesting. Keep up the good work.
#40
zombiegleemax
Jul 15, 2004 13:46:08 I for one would like to add my vote for a Summer of Chaos sourcebook. That time period really didnt have much dedicated to it and that is a shame. Filling in the gaps would be great!
#41
brimstone
Jul 15, 2004 14:01:29
Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
I for one would like to add my vote for a Summer of Chaos sourcebook. That time period really didnt have much dedicated to it and that is a shame. Filling in the gaps would be great!

I don't know...it got 8 novels and 2 modules...that's not too bad (all 10 of which are excellent). There are worse areas.
#42
zombiegleemax
Jul 16, 2004 11:10:54 I know about all of that other stuff, but it would be nice to have it all in one volume and but together cohesivly.
#43
zombiegleemax
Jul 16, 2004 22:40:21
Originally posted by jechambers
And, for those who have been waiting, it will detail Raistlin in game terms at the height of his power.

Hmm, interesting. Since he is one of the most powerful wizards of all time on Krynn, I would suggest that you paya short visit to the Character Optimization board just to make sure that Raistlin's game statistics present him as such. ;) I can recommend a few "experts" if you would like.
#44
zombiegleemax
Jul 19, 2004 10:58:55 Raistlin's Stats as Master of Past and Present? HOORAY.

Will this title be fully explained?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 dragontooth Apr 17, 2004 22:24:10	War of the Lance Source Book. Will that contain information about the whole Age of Despair? Or just the part Time of the Dragon era? Sorry if this question has already been asked, and Answered don't flame me too much. 2nd question. Will there be a Pre-cataclysm Source book? I'm sure they could squeeze Age of Starbirth, Age of Dreams, and Age of Might into one book. Not to mention a Pre-cataclysm map hehehehe ;)
#2 zombiegleemax Apr 17, 2004 23:45:34	lol, yeah, they can shove 9000 years of history into one book ;) I'd imagine it would be mostly about the WotL, that's a pretty big point in history.
#3 valharic Apr 18, 2004 5:07:10	I'm not sure how far back the WotL SB will go, but I remember seeing that it will go up to and through the Legends trilogy of novels. What I'm wandering is what kind of information will it have on the Seekers Movement?
#4 sweetmeats Apr 18, 2004 7:02:53	Originally posted by Dragontooth 2nd question. Will there be a Pre-cataclysm Source book? I'm sure they could squeeze Age of Starbirth, Age of Dreams, and Age of Might into one book. Not to mention a Pre-cataclysm map hehehehe ;) Now this I really would like. I've never run a pre-catcalysm game because I've never really known enough about it.
#5 wolffenjugend_dup Apr 18, 2004 9:51:28	I think a Kingpriest-era SB would be great!
#6 zombiegleemax Apr 18, 2004 12:44:52	Originally posted by Dragontooth War of the Lance Source Book. Will that contain information about the whole Age of Despair? Or just the part Time of the Dragon era? Sorry if this question has already been asked, and Answered don't flame me too much. 2nd question. Will there be a Pre-cataclysm Source book? I'm sure they could squeeze Age of Starbirth, Age of Dreams, and Age of Might into one book. Not to mention a Pre-cataclysm map hehehehe ;) Just as the Age of Mortals sourcebook covered the whole Fifth Age, with special emphasis on the War of Souls, the War of the Lance sourcebook will have all the information you need to run a campaign set in the early Age of Despair, though we focus a good deal on the War of the Lance. We have ideas for other major sourcebooks, such as the Reign of Istar and the Legend of Huma, but they are not currently in the works. Jamie Chambers Sovereign Press, Inc.
#7 dragontooth Apr 18, 2004 15:25:40	Originally posted by jechambers Just as the Age of Mortals sourcebook covered the whole Fifth Age, with special emphasis on the War of Souls, the War of the Lance sourcebook will have all the information you need to run a campaign set in the early Age of Despair, though we focus a good deal on the War of the Lance. We have ideas for other major sourcebooks, such as the Reign of Istar and the Legend of Huma, but they are not currently in the works. Jamie Chambers Sovereign Press, Inc. Thank You Jamie for answering those questions. I'm sure there is plenty of time to plan for those 2 future source books. Just reading the Kingpriest books, and they got me interested in that period of time.
#8 zombiegleemax Apr 18, 2004 23:25:02	Yeah, I just finished that trilogy (Kingpriest), was AWESOME. Got me really interested that era too. I'm not sure how I'd handle a campaign in that time line, but would interesting to see how my group handles it. heheh
#9 raistlinrox Apr 19, 2004 4:18:19	I had heard that Legends might have it's own book.... Jamie, is this true or will that part be in the WotL book as well? Is the WotL going to have the heroes' stats before or after the chronicles start/end? I am mainly just wanting to see what kind of stats they give to Raist at the end of Legends...
#10 zombiegleemax Apr 19, 2004 6:50:02	Originally posted by raistlinrox I had heard that Legends might have it's own book.... Jamie, is this true or will that part be in the WotL book as well? Is the WotL going to have the heroes' stats before or after the chronicles start/end? I am mainly just wanting to see what kind of stats they give to Raist at the end of Legends... Dragonlance Legends is going to have its own sourcebook. War of the Lance will present the heroes as they appear during Chronicles. Jamie Chambers Sovereign Press, Inc.
#11 lorac75 Apr 19, 2004 7:40:55	Will the Legends book cover mostly the pre or post War of the Lance material or will it cover both equally?
#12 zombiegleemax Apr 19, 2004 7:51:04	Originally posted by lorac75 Will the Legends book cover mostly the pre or post War of the Lance material or will it cover both equally? The Legends sourcebook (planned for '05) is planned to follow Legends both literally and thematically. It will have coverage of the time periods visited (Istar, Dwarfgate Wars, and even the Krynn with Raistlin as its one remaining god). It will feature tips on campaigns that feature time travel and how to deal with very personal journeys, the seduction of true power, and the possibility of redemption. And, for those who have been waiting, it will detail Raistlin in game terms at the height of his power. Jamie Chambers Sovereign Press, Inc.
#13 zombiegleemax Apr 19, 2004 8:51:41	Originally posted by jechambers The Legends sourcebook (planned for '05) is planned to follow Legends both literally and thematically. It will have coverage of the time periods visited (Istar, Dwarfgate Wars, and even the Krynn with Raistlin as its one remaining god). It will feature tips on campaigns that feature time travel and how to deal with very personal journeys, the seduction of true power, and the possibility of redemption. Awesome! My games have featured all of those elements for years.
#14 lorac75 Apr 19, 2004 8:54:30	That book sounds really great. I can't wait till get my hands on it.
#15 brimstone Apr 19, 2004 10:51:42	Originally posted by jechambers It will feature tips on campaigns that feature time travel and how to deal with very personal journeys, the seduction of true power, and the possibility of redemption. And, for those who have been waiting, it will detail Raistlin in game terms at the height of his power. I don't suppose there's any possibility of getting Tracy to expand on his Legends Appendix of Dragonlance time travel (most specifically...the timelines from that book?) I had never thought about Legends in that way before...the way he presented the timeline hopping. Finally, it all clicked...all of Legends made sense. I really hope that if he can't/doesn't do it...that the afore mentioned Appendix (can't remember the letter) will at least be the model.
#16 zombiegleemax Apr 19, 2004 10:54:34	Whoa...I missed this Legends Appendix of Dragonlance Time Travel...was it printed in Annotated Legends? Please tell me what book to buy so I can get my hands on it!
#17 brimstone Apr 19, 2004 11:10:54	Originally posted by Curious about Dark Sun Whoa...I missed this Legends Appendix of Dragonlance Time Travel...was it printed in Annotated Legends? Please tell me what book to buy so I can get my hands on it! Yep, Annotated Legends. It had never occured to me that Tas's traveling into the past allowed Rasitlin enter the Abyss and defeat the gods. In fact, it was Tas's accidental trip into the future that saved Tanis, who saved Caramon, who stopped Raistlin from leaving the Abyss. It really made me rethink everything in Legends. It made my last reading of the trilogy a whole new experience.
#18 daedavias_dup Apr 19, 2004 11:35:15	Originally posted by jechambers The Legends sourcebook (planned for '05) is planned to follow Legends both literally and thematically. It will have coverage of the time periods visited (Istar, Dwarfgate Wars, and even the Krynn with Raistlin as its one remaining god). It will feature tips on campaigns that feature time travel and how to deal with very personal journeys, the seduction of true power, and the possibility of redemption. And, for those who have been waiting, it will detail Raistlin in game terms at the height of his power. Jamie Chambers Sovereign Press, Inc. That sounds like it will be a very sweet book, Jamie. By any chance would you mind giving us a ball park figure of what level you guys(and girls, don't think I forgot about Margaret and Renae) have planned for Raistlin? I would hope that he will be epic.
#19 zombiegleemax Apr 19, 2004 12:21:51	it will detail Raistlin in game terms at the height of his power. You guys are brave. I wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole.
#20 cam_banks Apr 19, 2004 12:49:48	Originally posted by The Great Egad You guys are brave. I wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole. And in 3rd edition, the standard is now a 5 ft. pole. Even more harrowing and dangerous. Cheers, Cam
#21 brimstone Apr 19, 2004 13:01:10	Originally posted by Cam Banks And in 3rd edition, the standard is now a 5 ft. pole. Even more harrowing and dangerous. I wonder how many more points I get on the Geek Test because I laughed out loud at this joke? :D
#22 zombiegleemax Apr 19, 2004 15:18:22	I hope that these products will come out on time. We have waited almost a year for the 1st module. The War of the Lance and the Legends books will be great, hopefully, there will still be interest in them when they arrive.
#23 ferratus Apr 19, 2004 16:29:56	Raistlin Shmaistlin. I want geographical and cultural info, much of which I can use in all ages. If I get a FRCS type gazateer in the WotL book, I can renew my interest in the setting. Information on politics, population, major centers, religious preferences, and history of the region (rather than a summary of events in the book line) are what would make a great campaign setting book. Will you need the DLCS to use the WotL book? I could imagine that the licensing agreement would demand it, but I could also imagine sales would be much better if the 4th Age fans didn't have to buy the DLCS which, aside from the classes, contains 5th Age information.
#24 zombiegleemax Apr 20, 2004 16:32:01	Of course you will need the Dragonlance Campaign Setting to use any of their gaming products.
#25 wolffenjugend_dup Apr 20, 2004 19:14:59	Quit being so negative. The DLCS isn't needed, especially if you've got old material. I survived quite fine without it.
#26 ranger_reg Apr 21, 2004 3:27:17	What is so negative about that?
#27 wolffenjugend_dup Apr 21, 2004 8:56:24	Read back through the thread.
#28 cam_banks Apr 21, 2004 9:08:17	The War of the Lance sourcebook is, like the Age of Mortals sourcebook published last year, a companion volume to the Dragonlance Campaign Setting. You will need a copy of the DLCS to make the most out of the WotL book. That's more or less how Sovereign Press products work, as accessories and supplementary volumes to the core DLCS. Cheers, Cam
#29 zombiegleemax Jul 14, 2004 14:40:23	Any idea when some of these products will be released?
#30 qstor Jul 14, 2004 16:41:00	The War of the lance Sourcebook is supposed to be out at GenCOn Mike
#31 zombiegleemax Jul 14, 2004 16:44:42	And sometime in September for those who cannot attend. Not fair!
#32 zombiegleemax Jul 14, 2004 20:22:12	One note on the "out at Gencon" bit. That has been said here frequently in the past - and there was a time when I heard that over the phone from someone who oughta know, too. So it's not wholly wrong to answer that question with that response. That said, the question has been asked FREQUENTLY in the past few months and Mr. Chambers has studiously avoided answering the question over those same past few months. Gencon is now not some far away date, but barely a month away. Given the time it takes to edit, send off reviews and vetting the work at WotC and the time it take to print, I would start to prepare for some serious disappointment if you are expecting to get WotL at Gencon. ToHS seems to be the likely GenCon book of choice.
#33 raistlinrox Jul 15, 2004 4:40:26	Time flies when you're having fun waiting for DL books! lol
#34 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 11:24:32	Uh-oh. Will the books be ready by then? And if so why not make them available on the mass market?
#35 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 12:02:51	Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn Uh-oh. Will the books be ready by then? And if so why not make them available on the mass market? The majority of our books are printed overseas, which means shipping them back by (regrettably slow) ocean freight. For special events like GenCon we sometimes undertake expensive air freight to have advance copies to sell, but it would be prohibitively expensive to air freight an entire print run. So while the convention attendees get to enjoy the book's premiere, everyone else has to wait. And the convention premieres are a really vital part of our business plan, so we can't just make the whole run sit on the boat. Anticipation is a good thing, though, and will give us time for more fun web previews! Jamie Chambers Sovereign Press, Inc.
#36 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 12:08:24	unless I missed it somewhere, still no infor on when the Towers of High Sorcery will be out. Also, I am sure that many copies will not be sold at GenCOn, why not make them avaliable to the general public on a website or something?
#37 ferratus Jul 15, 2004 12:08:45	Originally posted by jechambers Anticipation is a good thing, though, and will give us time for more fun web previews! Will there be any "web enhancements"? You know, cool stuff that didn't make it into the book?
#38 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 12:30:41	That would be interesting. Are the Stats of the Heroes of the Lance going to be presented from the beginning to the end like they were in the orignal series?
#39 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 13:36:50	Sounds great so far. And just to be curious. You have mentioned a "Legends" book covering the time Legends takes place, as well as the Dwarfgate Wars and the Cataclysm, yet a Reign of Istar sourcebook and War of the lance book, too. Would the Cataclysm be something detailed more in a Reign of Istar based sourcebook? Or would the latter sourcebook be more intended for detailing the entire 1000 years of the third age, while the Legends book dedicated towards just the ending of it? Similar question regarding the Dwarfgate wars: I would be REALLY interested in this period of time. I've always thought it was underused and overshadowed by the War of the Lance later on, but would this be more suited for the War of the Lance sourcebook if it is to also include information about the years previous to the War of the Lance, or the Legends book? I hope we can see lots of information for it, regardless. With information on how desperate, sick and stricken with poverty most of the people are during the years following the Cataclysm Also, I know this has been asked before, and you already have a lot of material and potential books to work with, but I beseech you to consider the possibility of a Chaos War book. I know it might not be as popular a period as others, but that is based on the novels. I think it would make a fantastic gaming supplement. You have first the rise of the Knights of Takhisis, with many possiblities for role playing there, and the war against Chaos, which I've always thought to have limitless potential for campaigns and gaming. Perhaps it may be for something down the road? One last thing, with the War of the Lance book, I don't suppose there will be any information about the events of the novel "Brothers in Arms" from the Raistlin Chronicles, and perhaps even stats and information for Horkin, the Baron, Scrounger and the army of the Mad Baron? I've always been curious, but whatever happened to them? Obviously a lot of time has elapsed since then, but who wouldn't want to join up with the Mad Baron's army befor the War of the Lance and then perhaps even DURING the War of the Lance. Correct me if I'm wrong, but no source ever described anything about what happened to them after that particular book, no? Any coverage of them would be most welcome. Just curious, anyway. It all looks interesting. Keep up the good work.
#40 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 13:46:08	I for one would like to add my vote for a Summer of Chaos sourcebook. That time period really didnt have much dedicated to it and that is a shame. Filling in the gaps would be great!
#41 brimstone Jul 15, 2004 14:01:29	Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn I for one would like to add my vote for a Summer of Chaos sourcebook. That time period really didnt have much dedicated to it and that is a shame. Filling in the gaps would be great! I don't know...it got 8 novels and 2 modules...that's not too bad (all 10 of which are excellent). There are worse areas.
#42 zombiegleemax Jul 16, 2004 11:10:54	I know about all of that other stuff, but it would be nice to have it all in one volume and but together cohesivly.
#43 zombiegleemax Jul 16, 2004 22:40:21	Originally posted by jechambers And, for those who have been waiting, it will detail Raistlin in game terms at the height of his power. Hmm, interesting. Since he is one of the most powerful wizards of all time on Krynn, I would suggest that you paya short visit to the Character Optimization board just to make sure that Raistlin's game statistics present him as such. ;) I can recommend a few "experts" if you would like.
#44 zombiegleemax Jul 19, 2004 10:58:55	Raistlin's Stats as Master of Past and Present? HOORAY. Will this title be fully explained?