Mainly i can't get the CR right, and i have a problem with the "hurl javelin" ability.
thanx alot guys! you have a noob's gratefulness.
Hey my interpretation will be in my first ebook due at the end of next month, <>
I may not know the big guns in the industry (RL), but the RPGA'ers that I know that have done Mask of the red Death are happy with my stuff so thats a good pointer
Let me know if you want a hand on this or if you would like to see my version..
Martin
AKA LicheHazel
-Eric Gorman
PS - the 3.5 MM is probably enough to help you get to the place you need to go. IMO a D&D 3.X Juju zombie needs 4 or 5 HD as a base, has the standard immunities for being undead, has a low Int score (say 4ish) but maybe higher like a ghoul at your option, has DR 5/silver or 5/magic. Takes full round actions (not partials as per normal zombies). I don't remember if it had the ability to lob magic missliles or was immune to them. I like the later more. Maybe make the DR 5/cold iron to reflect it's resistance to more magical sources. A tougher version might be given DR 8 (but not higher IMO).
On the whole I think you're looking at a monster roughly equal to a ghast or a wight. Snap judgement: try CR:3
Originally posted by Reginald de Curry
Van Richten's Guide to the Walking Dead is probably right up your alley. Check it out if you can.
Oh I left that out of my post Darn
very good bookAnd yes, if you want to check out Van Richten's Guide to the Walking Dead, you won't hear complaints from me. ;)
Watched Dawn of the Dead recently, perhaps?
Originally posted by Rucht_Lilavivat I believe that the Tome of Horrors, from Necromancer games has ju-ju zombie information. I don't have it with me at the moment, so I could be wrong.
... but you are not. Pages 284 & 285 of Tome of Horrors I list 7 size categories of ju-ju zombies, from tiny to colossal.
I just bought ToH II this weekend, haven't read it yet, but I skimmed through to see if there is anything applicable to Ravenloft. There's a few new things that might do... ;)
) but still I'm a bit confused.1) It had a "hurl javelin" ability, like those described in "Sword and Fist", not for Magic Missiles.
2) What exactly is IMO?
:-(3)i tried Van Richten's Guide (I think it's 3rd not 3.5 ed) and couldn't find anything valuable. Of course i flipped it at the store, didn't read it thoroughly.
Anyway, thanks again I thing I'll try tome of horrors.
Cleric to a Lich: "Begone creature of Evil!"
Lich's answer: "Begone creature of Light!"
(after that, noone saw the priest again...)
Maybe it was 1st edition where they spat Magic Missiles??? I'm sure Brandi would know. I've playing in enough different worlds and editions where things start to blur for me. In a 2E DarkSun campaign I used to play in while I lived in DC they were immune to magic missiles instead. The DM used all the old 2E Van Richten guides to build/customise his undead and it was frequently not pretty for us. In a good way.
Whatever you call it it seems like you might want to make sure they have a ranged attack of some kind. Throwing javelins isn't worth a boost to CR like a spell-like ability or an immunity as a general rule. IMO.
VRgtWD is 3.0 and not 3.5. However this is still a *great* product because (a) a lot of it is about the motivations of the undead and how to run them so an undead isn't just an undead (yes theres more to it than "brraaaiinns") (b) the monster building section is virtually as applicable for 3.5 as 3.0 and a very effective tool for customizing any undead, and (c) there are several wonderful examples culminating in the depiction of Toben the Many. May I suggest its worth another look?
Another 3.0 Monster Building book is the Monsters Handbook by Legends and Lairs. IMO its also a *very* useful resource for DMs looking to put fresh spins on their creatures. I have no experience with the Tome of Horrors so don't know how good it is.
Good Luck!
-Eric Gorman
Originally posted by HvF
Maybe it was 1st edition where they spat Magic Missiles??? I'm sure Brandi would know.
Ju-jus didn't exist in 1st edition AD&D (I happen to have a beat up old Monster Manual here that I'll probably unload on a bookstore in the near future). I never played in a game with them, mostly because even though I got 2nd edition when it came out I was pretty well along into GURPS by then, but from what little I remember of the writeup there was no sort of javelin/missile skill at all, just tougher skin, more intelligence than the bog-standard zombie, and the ability to climb walls and move silently like thieves (possibly like 6th-level thieves but don't hold me to it).
I will add to the list of people recommending Van Richten's Guide to the Walking Dead, though. If Tome of Horrors can't help, you could probably homebrew the juju-- or something equally unpleasant-- with the help of that book.
It sounds like the javelin throwing/bow usage isn't so much a special attack-- or, at least, a special attack with enchanced to-hit or damage-- as it just shows that ju-jus have the brains to actually try ranged combat.
Originally posted by Rucht_Lilavivat
I believe that the Tome of Horrors, from Necromancer games has ju-ju zombie information. I don't have it with me at the moment, so I could be wrong.
And yes, if you want to check out Van Richten's Guide to the Walking Dead, you won't hear complaints from me. ;)
Watched Dawn of the Dead recently, perhaps?
Hijacking the thread a second, but I saw Shaun of the Dead again yesterday and, even though it's a comedy, it's one of the best zombie films I've seen.
The "But she's my mum!" scene rivals the scene in the original Dawn of the Dead when the SWAT guy gets bit.
First of all, once again i'm really honoured to see so many people interfering with my problem!! It seems I started a ju-ju infestation ROFL
this one goes to HvF
Thanks for the advice on using Van's guide, but I prefer using AEG or Mongoose products for this kind of jobs (OH MY HEIRONEUS, AFTER THIS QUOTE WOTC IS GONNA HIRE ASSASSINS TO DISPOSE ME
). Esp the UNDEAD from AEG has a very thorough, deep analysis on undead and their societies. DEEPLY recommended IMO (see, I learn fast :P )this one goes to Rucht and Drinnik
I was only able to see Dawn of the Dead which is great, but not even half the political and social essay that the original, and so far i've seen only the trailer of Shaun, which shows great thinking and esp the "Dire Straights" scene!!
Once again, you all rule guys, I've only played for the past 7 years, DMing for 2, so knowing people like Catman , HvF and Brandi are out there stalking (in a good sense, actually itIS Ravenloft we're talking about) these boards is pretty encouraging to me
.A romantic comedy.With zombies.
IMHO = in my humble opinion
(not that I'd use it
)