Atzetuk the dragon

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#1

zombiegleemax

Apr 26, 2004 20:04:52
Yeah, so with the dragon/dungeon timeline they have Atzetuk as becoming a dragon. I was thinking, and kinda hit on a hypothetical. He has to start this relatively soon after the age of heroes timeline, since he's not immortal. I thought what would corrupt him, and hit on Tionaca (I spell that right? I forget). Let's say Atzetuk discovers her, and they talk. He finds out he isn't really Tec's kid. Tionca corrupts him, teaches him magic, he has access to tec's libraries, and bam. He turns evil, and eventually becomes a dragon. Hell, tionaca could even become his queen (think Oedipus). Yet one more ray of hope squashed under the dark sun (formerly NG Atzetuk becomes yet another despoiler of the land).


Thoughts? This is pretty much just an idea. But his corruption has to happen sooner or later.


nick
#2

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Apr 26, 2004 20:20:01
While not a fan of the Dragon Magazine articles (in the least) for Dark Sun as written, this does pose an interesting thought process. I was going with the idea that the spirit of Tec survived the destruction of his body, and then went and possessed his "son" (it was so nice of the House of the Mind to groom him for easy possession - even if they weren't expecting it). this is how Atzetuk could possibly be a Sorcerer-King, and not just a mere Dragon - because it's actually tec in a new form. And, Atzetuk (by that, I mean Tectucticulay in his Atzetuk body-suit) overthrows the House of the Mind, and assumes true leadership of Draj. Sure, it's an old trick used by many diofferent settngs, but I think it can work in this case (much as my time-travelling Oronis idea from another thread works IMHO)
#3

zombiegleemax

Apr 26, 2004 21:28:15
Tec returning is an idea, and I've had similar ideas (Kalak returning in a Tithian body-suit, thereby being not only a full-fledged SK, but also have the body of a popular and liked King, and resultantly loyal citizens). I think the real thing standing out in my Atzetuk idea was that the transformation of Atzetuk from being a potentially good thing for Draj (what with his NG-ness) into yet another power-mad despot smacks of the hopelessness of Athas.
#4

Shei-Nad

Apr 26, 2004 22:27:14
I liked the Oronis-gets-involved-tries-to-make-nearest-city-state's-new-god-good-pupil-turns-to-dark-side thing. ;)

Anyways, Though I very much like that idea, I don't think the Dragon King Atzetuk should ever get to grant spells to templars. Or at least, not in the traditionnal sense, since it seems unlikely Atzetuk could have gotten his hands on what was needed to get the vortex (though not impossible). In any case, I think it's not necessary.

Draj is a heavy warrior culture, with sacrifices and all. His major strenght would be his army. Templars, or Moon Priests, would simply be warrior-priests, who cull those for sacrifice and ensure the SK's doctrine is maintained.

Hmm... or I have an idea... tell me what you think...

What If Atzetuk devised a special arcane magic for his templars. Indeed, deprived of divine templars, it seems credible Atzetuk could school loyal templars in his magic. Also, its not any sort of magic. Dragon kings can tap for their magic power in living beings instead of plants. Low level templars could not do the same directly, but Atzetuk refined a way to have them tap into their lifeforce: Blood. With special rituals, the templars can empower themselves during sacrifices. Just as dragon kings must use obsidian as a means to channel life energy, Draj's templars use special obsidian daggers as a channeling device, acting much like the lens of a cerulean wizard.

Heh. That could be cool, methinks.
#5

dawnstealer

Apr 26, 2004 22:48:53
I was going with the idea that the spirit of Tec survived the destruction of his body, and then went and possessed his "son"

Similar to the direction I went. When Rajaat "killed" Tec, as opposed to imprisoning him, it triggered Tec's contingency spells - Tec was brought back. What does he do? Possesses the kid. That's how I was running it, Dragon doesn't really disprove that, so I have no harps on it.
#6

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Apr 27, 2004 0:19:30
Yea, and it feels like it fits more than the "Kalak possesses Tithian" idea. Not that I'm opposed to Kalak returning, just... it feels like there should be another way. Or work with the idea he wasn't really a Champion

I've toyed with the idea of Andropinus returning from his exile too, before the Dragon write-up. Only he has quite literally become something like a Blacktouched creature (the Black did to him as it did to the Halfling servants of Rajaat - made him more like a shadowy creature - and also annoys Nibenay, who was the self-proclaimed Shadow King before Andropinus returned)... but I'm rambling.
#7

dawnstealer

Apr 27, 2004 11:06:52
Xlor, you didn't steal my brain and pick it while I was sleeping, did you?
#8

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Apr 27, 2004 11:09:20
It's one of those rare moments where we actually thought alike. Feels wierd, doesn't it?
#9

zombiegleemax

Apr 27, 2004 12:51:40
I surely hope the revised campaigne setting for Dark Sun has all the background story of what happened to Athas in the past. I find all this fascinating,immortals,campions...this Rajaaat fellow and extinct races...yummy!
#10

zombiegleemax

Apr 27, 2004 13:56:05
Atzetuk refined a way to have them tap into their lifeforce: Blood. With special rituals, the templars can empower themselves during sacrifices.

I really do like this idea. Let the 'templars' build kind of a power point reserve during sacrifices that they can store up and unleash later on as spells. The only way to recharge though is through ritualistic sacrifice or their own life force (convert own hp to spell power). No precedent perhaps, but it stills sounds Athasian to me.

As for Tek possessing the boy king, it just sounds a bit cliche. I think my players would be on to me right quick with that one. They already suspect that eventually the boy is going to be a dragon king anyhow, so I would hope for something that throws their assumptions for a loop. I would still like to see the kid remain in power, perhaps cutting the strings of the puppeteers, but I just want to do something really creative and unique with him since he has so much more potential for good story telling that I don't want to see go to waste.
#11

dawnstealer

Apr 27, 2004 14:16:02
Shadowrun has "Blood Magic" which works in a similar fashion. Depending on what you sacrifice, the power of the spell can be increased. You'd have to tweak it for DS, but it could be done.
#12

Shei-Nad

Apr 27, 2004 16:33:42
Actually ''Maho'', or Blood Magic, already exists for d20, in the Rokugan campaign setting. Maho Tsukai (Blood sorcerers) are the evil and corrupt spellcasters of that setting. There are quite extensive mechanics for it, many of which also appears and has been tweaked in Unearthed Arcana, I think.

I think the spell point could work too, but I'm not sure its necessary.

Like Black Mages and Necromancers, Moon Priests could simply learn to tap into the lifeforce via flowing blood. Sacrifice would be a ritualistic way of doing it, and could perhaps provide some extra energy, like necromancers casting on a large burial ground, or empower their obsidian sacrificial dagger, much like the cerulean lenses. However, using blood magic wouldn't be that hard even without sacrifice. The moment blood is shed, the templars would be able to tap it to cast their spells, much like a black wizard can tap into any shadow. So no need to go for big mechanics, just a cool Feat with bonuses and restricitions akin to the Shadow Adept feat.

I'd really see the gathering of energies from the blood as something really cool and bonechilling, especially if the blood is defiled! Think about the blood drying up, then crakeling, then being turned into powder and being spread and vanishoing in the air, but leaving an unerasable scar on the material it was spread on!

Anyways, just a few thoughts. I don't think I'll ever play in that Age anyways.

P.S.: I move for having Dragon's conversion of Dark Sun called: The Age of D&D!
#13

dawnstealer

Apr 27, 2004 17:01:51
Or simply "the vDD". I like it for bringing in new players, and the fact that they set it so far in the future.

I think I'll just stop there.
#14

Sysane

Apr 28, 2004 12:41:54
I wasn't a fan that Atzetuk was turned into a Dragon. In my game he is still being used by the House of the Mind. I also have that Atzetuk/HoTM has control of the Obsidian Man as well in order to proctect the city from other citys with SKs.


--Sysane, The Terror of Urik