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#1 Shei-Nad May 03, 2004 21:22:23	Quick Question: All 3.5 knowledges grant synergy bonuses. What do you suppose would be good for this skill? I really can't think of anything good...
#2 Shei-Nad May 03, 2004 21:28:13	Just had an idea... On attack rolls with siege engines. Would that be good?
#3 nilesb May 03, 2004 22:50:24	I'd not use the skill at all; I'd probably ask for a bab+int mod roll instead.
#4 dawnstealer May 03, 2004 22:59:22	You could use it for creating siege weapons, defenses, morale, and other "big-military" uses. Maybe a synergy with tactics or spot in regards to larger situations (army against army, looking for the weak-spot). Other than that, maybe a combat bonus for the army? Dunno.
#5 zombiegleemax May 03, 2004 23:15:33	Possibly a +2 to a leadership score? Or diplomacy checks to direct troops (a possibility if youre playing Road to Urik)
#6 Pennarin May 04, 2004 1:55:15	My comment's a little off path, but... My Dote Mal Payne write-up has the Knowledge (warcraft) skill so he can supervise the construction of undead war beetles for the arena and the occasional wars involving Tyr. From DS3.5 Knowledge (Warcraft) (Int) You are knowledgeable in organized warfare. Some of the areas of warfare this skill covers are: Supervising construction of defenses, supervising construct on siege weaponry, logistics, commanding siege weapon operations, commanding war beetle operations, teaching in the use of weapons and communication through signals and messengers (including the relevant terminology). Since the engine of war in this instance is undead, a synergy bonus could be given if he has 5 or more ranks in Knowledge (undead) or Craft (what? undead siege engine perhaps...) or Craft (embalming)*. * Embalming can be used to make zombies from humans but also bugdead from watroach exoskeletons. Hey! just saw something weird! The undead war beetle is said to be made from the exo of a watroach beetle and the pic for the watroach is found in Dragon #185 and in the latest Dragon #319. But the war beetle in Dragon Kings has a different pic and is said to be made from "the carcasses of giant rezhatta beetles fromk the Great Ivory Plain". Maybe the giant rezhatta beetle should be added to the next update of Terrors of Athas?
#7 jon_oracle_of_athas May 04, 2004 3:40:36	Have you checked if Terrors of the Deadlands has stats for the rezhatta beetle?
#8 jaanos May 04, 2004 3:55:30	Perhaps a bonus to tracking rolls, or hide rolls, or move silently when you are being pursued by a unit of an army whose tatics you know... i.e; you know WHAT signs their trackers look for when they track, so you can mask your trail better You know HOW and generally WHERE they will place sentries in a given landscape, so it's easier to sneak by them You know, generally, HOW they conduct searches, so you get a bonus to hide... all goes out the window if they have a merc in the unit that is doing the searching / tracking.....
#9 Pennarin May 04, 2004 8:41:13	Originally posted by Jon, Oracle of Athas Have you checked if Terrors of the Deadlands has stats for the rezhatta beetle? Yeah it isn't there. Unless I'm missing something...
#10 Kamelion May 04, 2004 13:27:34	There are stats for the undead rezhatta (p31) but not for the living version. We did a living version of the watroach already for ToA so I suppose there's no reason that we couldn't do a rezhatta (well, other than the fact that it means more fiddling, heh heh...) I'll bounce it to the bureau
#11 dawnstealer May 04, 2004 13:28:59	Could it be the same monster with a different name?
#12 Kamelion May 04, 2004 13:40:49	Pennarin mentioned that the pictures show different creatures - it sounds like it's one of those DS creatures with no 2e stats, like the lask or the superfly slimahacc ;)
#13 dawnstealer May 04, 2004 15:03:54	superfly slimahacc wazzat?
#14 Kamelion May 04, 2004 15:14:01	It's the big snakey thing from the DS2 boxed set and DM screen. Nyt and Grummore (iirc) statted it out and gave it the name. They are superfly. It can be scientifically proven.
#15 Pennarin May 04, 2004 19:04:47	Superflies Lunatics, all of you! Yes yes, you...you...habitants of the moon! :D
#16 flip May 04, 2004 20:41:01	Originally posted by Kamelion It's the big snakey thing from the DS2 boxed set and DM screen. Nyt and Grummore (iirc) statted it out and gave it the name. They are superfly. It can be scientifically proven. No, no. As any Brax knows, those are pterran ptwoptops.
#17 Kamelion May 05, 2004 3:19:04	Too true, Flip, too true. Unfortunately somebody decided that ptutops was a silly name and settled on the nice and sensible slimahacc instead.
#18 Grummore May 05, 2004 10:41:15	Originally posted by Kamelion Too true, Flip, too true. Unfortunately somebody decided that ptutops was a silly name and settled on the nice and sensible slimahacc instead. Yeah, Ptutop is a sooooo pathetic name for such a big beast. And more, it's not really a Pterran name... Thanks to me and Nyt!
#19 dawnstealer May 05, 2004 12:30:38	How about "Sand Fangs," or "Dirt Smurfs?" Oh! "Big Snake Thingies" What?
#20 jon_oracle_of_athas May 05, 2004 14:30:12	Or Dawnstealers?
#21 nytcrawlr May 18, 2004 19:07:41	Originally posted by Pennarin Yeah it isn't there. Unless I'm missing something... Yes, you are missing something. ;) Re-read the entry for Undead Watroach in TotDL. Non-undead, non-animated version is in ToA as well.
#22 nytcrawlr May 18, 2004 19:11:16	Originally posted by Grummore Yeah, Ptutop is a sooooo pathetic name for such a big beast. And more, it's not really a Pterran name... Thanks to me and Nyt! Agreed. If you really want to argue on the name then you can waste your time trying to come up with a better one and rework it into all the flavor text for that writeup in your version of ToA. I'm not going to waste any more time on it though. ;) Better things to do, like get ToA up to XPH 3.5 standards, and then freaking move on. :P
#23 Pennarin May 18, 2004 19:57:30	Silly me! You're right of course, first descriptive line for the War Beetle. I can't understand how I missed it... So its confirmed, the rezhatta beetle pic from Dragon Kings is simply a pic that doesn't match the pic of the watroach undead beetle from Dragon Magazine.