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#1
zombiegleemax
May 16, 2004 16:57:02 Ok so Im reading spring dawning and it tells of Ariakas as being a magic-user and fighter. But in the modules it tells him being a cleric and fighter. Im confused which one is he officialy?
#2
zombiegleemax
May 16, 2004 17:01:44 In the games he is a cleric. In the novels he was a wizard. They didnt want to make another Verminaard-esque vilian in the novels so they changed it to wizard for those.
#3
baron_the_curse
May 16, 2004 18:36:49 That was always an annoying inconsistency. I changed his stats to that of a Black Robe way back when I ran a WotL era game.
#4
wolffenjugend_dup
May 16, 2004 22:27:46 He was a cleric in the Emperor of Ansalon novel.
#5
zombiegleemax
May 16, 2004 23:14:38 Ariakas is being presented (along with all of the other dragon highlords) in WAR OF THE LANCE. We are presenting him as seen in DRAGONS OF SPRING DAWNING--with a twist!

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
#6
zombiegleemax
May 16, 2004 23:51:44 Cool. I don't suppose you'll tell us what this twist is, will you? Or at least give us a hint? Why do something like that, tantalize us, then make us wait months to find out?! TELLMETELLMETELLLLLLLLMEEEEEEE!!!!!
#7
Dragonhelm
May 17, 2004 0:08:45 Well, it has to deal with the fact that Ariakas is *CENSORED BY SOVEREIGN PRESS* to the *CENSORED BY SOVEREIGN PRESS* with *CENSORED BY SOVEREIGN PRESS*, *CENSORED BY SOVEREIGN PRESS*, and *CENSORED BY SOVEREIGN PRESS*.

And that's where *CENSORED BY SOVEREIGN PRESS* comes into play!

Pretty neat, huh?

Damn, Jamie has that autocensor on me again. ;)
#8
lily_knight
May 17, 2004 0:28:06 *CENSORED BY SOVERIGN PRESS*
#9
daedavias_dup
May 17, 2004 12:10:23
Originally posted by jechambers
Ariakas is being presented (along with all of the other dragon highlords) in WAR OF THE LANCE. We are presenting him as seen in DRAGONS OF SPRING DAWNING--with a twist!

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.

GAH!!! Why do you torture us so?
#10
wolffenjugend_dup
May 18, 2004 11:30:27 Renegade.
#11
zombiegleemax
May 18, 2004 19:43:33
Originally posted by wolffenjugend
Renegade.

I hope not. Dragons of Spring Dawning specifically describes him as being a Black Robe, not a renegade. The WOHS would have been too scared of the Dragonarmies to cast Ariakas out as a renegade anyway, even though he did show an unseemly devotion to Takhisis.
#12
lily_knight
May 18, 2004 20:58:39
Originally posted by Twilight Herald
I hope not. Dragons of Spring Dawning specifically describes him as being a Black Robe, not a renegade. The WOHS would have been too scared of the Dragonarmies to cast Ariakas out as a renegade anyway, even though he did show an unseemly devotion to Takhisis.

Bah! The WoHS are a bunch of nancys.

In all fairness though, I think it would have something to do when he died, and some other people joined him...and...and...

If you tell me I will be your best friend !
#13
quentingeorge
May 19, 2004 2:16:18 Actually, I would like to see Ariakas being a Fighter/Cleric/Wizard/Black Robe. We can finally do this now for 3E.

I also seem him as being at least 20th level.
#14
Dragonhelm
May 19, 2004 8:47:58
Originally posted by QuentinGeorge
Actually, I would like to see Ariakas being a Fighter/Cleric/Wizard/Black Robe. We can finally do this now for 3E.

I also seem him as being at least 20th level.

Ah, but remember that a character in Dragonlance cannot have more than one patron deity. So Ariakas could not be both a cleric of Takhisis who also reveres Nuitari.

Now, he can be a Fighter/Cleric/Wizard (Renegade).

Of course, we have to ask whether or not he'll have any levels of Legendary Tactician.
#15
brimstone
May 19, 2004 11:11:46
Originally posted by Dragonhelm
So Ariakas could not be both a cleric of Takhisis who also reveres Nuitari.

What if he got his magic from Takhisis like the Grey Robes do?

Hmm...that's a good point, is that going to be explained how Takhisis is able to do what only her son should be able to do? Grant black magic to wizards?

Or maybe that's not how it works anyway. Man, it's confusing. I really hope the book goes into how magic works, what is need to be a wizard, or a sorcerer, and how being a renegade works in the eyes of the gods, etc. etc.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax May 16, 2004 16:57:02	Ok so Im reading spring dawning and it tells of Ariakas as being a magic-user and fighter. But in the modules it tells him being a cleric and fighter. Im confused which one is he officialy?
#2 zombiegleemax May 16, 2004 17:01:44	In the games he is a cleric. In the novels he was a wizard. They didnt want to make another Verminaard-esque vilian in the novels so they changed it to wizard for those.
#3 baron_the_curse May 16, 2004 18:36:49	That was always an annoying inconsistency. I changed his stats to that of a Black Robe way back when I ran a WotL era game.
#4 wolffenjugend_dup May 16, 2004 22:27:46	He was a cleric in the Emperor of Ansalon novel.
#5 zombiegleemax May 16, 2004 23:14:38	Ariakas is being presented (along with all of the other dragon highlords) in WAR OF THE LANCE. We are presenting him as seen in DRAGONS OF SPRING DAWNING--with a twist! Jamie Chambers Sovereign Press, Inc.
#6 zombiegleemax May 16, 2004 23:51:44	Cool. I don't suppose you'll tell us what this twist is, will you? Or at least give us a hint? Why do something like that, tantalize us, then make us wait months to find out?! TELLMETELLMETELLLLLLLLMEEEEEEE!!!!!
#7 Dragonhelm May 17, 2004 0:08:45	Well, it has to deal with the fact that Ariakas is CENSORED BY SOVEREIGN PRESS to the CENSORED BY SOVEREIGN PRESS with CENSORED BY SOVEREIGN PRESS, CENSORED BY SOVEREIGN PRESS, and CENSORED BY SOVEREIGN PRESS. And that's where CENSORED BY SOVEREIGN PRESS comes into play! Pretty neat, huh? Damn, Jamie has that autocensor on me again. ;)
#8 lily_knight May 17, 2004 0:28:06	CENSORED BY SOVERIGN PRESS
#9 daedavias_dup May 17, 2004 12:10:23	Originally posted by jechambers Ariakas is being presented (along with all of the other dragon highlords) in WAR OF THE LANCE. We are presenting him as seen in DRAGONS OF SPRING DAWNING--with a twist! Jamie Chambers Sovereign Press, Inc. GAH!!! Why do you torture us so?
#10 wolffenjugend_dup May 18, 2004 11:30:27	Renegade.
#11 zombiegleemax May 18, 2004 19:43:33	Originally posted by wolffenjugend Renegade. I hope not. Dragons of Spring Dawning specifically describes him as being a Black Robe, not a renegade. The WOHS would have been too scared of the Dragonarmies to cast Ariakas out as a renegade anyway, even though he did show an unseemly devotion to Takhisis.
#12 lily_knight May 18, 2004 20:58:39	Originally posted by Twilight Herald I hope not. Dragons of Spring Dawning specifically describes him as being a Black Robe, not a renegade. The WOHS would have been too scared of the Dragonarmies to cast Ariakas out as a renegade anyway, even though he did show an unseemly devotion to Takhisis. Bah! The WoHS are a bunch of nancys. In all fairness though, I think it would have something to do when he died, and some other people joined him...and...and... If you tell me I will be your best friend !
#13 quentingeorge May 19, 2004 2:16:18	Actually, I would like to see Ariakas being a Fighter/Cleric/Wizard/Black Robe. We can finally do this now for 3E. I also seem him as being at least 20th level.
#14 Dragonhelm May 19, 2004 8:47:58	Originally posted by QuentinGeorge Actually, I would like to see Ariakas being a Fighter/Cleric/Wizard/Black Robe. We can finally do this now for 3E. I also seem him as being at least 20th level. Ah, but remember that a character in Dragonlance cannot have more than one patron deity. So Ariakas could not be both a cleric of Takhisis who also reveres Nuitari. Now, he can be a Fighter/Cleric/Wizard (Renegade). Of course, we have to ask whether or not he'll have any levels of Legendary Tactician.
#15 brimstone May 19, 2004 11:11:46	Originally posted by Dragonhelm So Ariakas could not be both a cleric of Takhisis who also reveres Nuitari. What if he got his magic from Takhisis like the Grey Robes do? Hmm...that's a good point, is that going to be explained how Takhisis is able to do what only her son should be able to do? Grant black magic to wizards? Or maybe that's not how it works anyway. Man, it's confusing. I really hope the book goes into how magic works, what is need to be a wizard, or a sorcerer, and how being a renegade works in the eyes of the gods, etc. etc.