Originally posted by Omonoth
As it hasn't been stated in 3e, I'm just wondering if it was ever stated in 2e. What are the lifespans of half-fiends and tielfings? Half-Celestial and Aasimon lifespans would also be helpful.
The tieflings are in Races of Faerun, and they were also updated again in the Player's Guide to Faerun. But I use the ones from The Planewalkers Handbook from 2e.
Some half-fiend/celestials have been around for a long time, so there's some in game justification for it all.
My own take on it would be to give them an elven lifespan as far as maximum age goes and then play around with the various aging catagories.
:/ I don't know about that. If they aren't immortal i think a multiplier to the base creatures age would be better. Especially for monsters like for example half-fiend dragons it'd be kinda silly to have a shorter lifespan than a normal dragon.
The Green Ronin Aasimar & Tiefling book claims half-fiendish humans have only human lifespan, which seems too short to me, although I can see the logic behind having templates not increase the lifespan of the base creature unless it explicitly says they do.
Immortality is an all-or-nothing prospect anyway, isn't it? If they don't inherit the agelessness of their planeborn parents, perhaps the lifespan of their mortal parent is the only trait available.
Ely Cromlich has been in charge of Sigil's Armory for over a century, though, so he certainly has more than a human lifespan. I think there are other examples of very long-lived half-fiends, though none come to mind at the moment. There's Merlin, of course, but he was put in suspended animation by Nimue, so probably he doesn't count. He definitely seemed to age, though TH White said it was backwards.
The cambion Acererak felt the need to become a lich, so perhaps he wasn't immortal. Lichhood was a stepping-stone for something much greater for him, though, so that's no proof.
Tiefling
starting age: 17
maximum age: 100 + 1d100
middle age: 50
old age: 67
venerable: 100
Aasimar
starting age: 16
maximum age: 125 + 2d20
middle age: 62
old age: 83
venerable: 125
Planetouched (any) Adulthood 15, Middle age 45, Old 68, Venerable 90, Maximum age 90 +3d20 (or 150 at most).
This is a little better than human, but less long-lived than halflings.
It makes sense to me that they chose to base the lifespan of planetouched on humans because the genetic makeup is mostly human, with just a touch of very diluted outsider somewhere in mix.
As for half-fiends or half-celestials, since it is just a template, and since the template doesn't mention any change to the life-span of the creature I assume you would just use the life-span of the base creature, subject to the discretion of your DM who might have a different ruling.
Originally posted by Gray Richardson
Planetouched (any) Adulthood 15, Middle age 45, Old 68, Venerable 90, Maximum age 90 +3d20 (or 150 at most). This is a little better than human, but less long-lived than halflings.
I hadn't seen this information before, but my own system isn't too different from that. I typically just multiply the base creatures age categories by 1.5 to get the new limits. The base ages are typically taken from humans, but there is room to alter things if the tiefling/aasimar/genasi decended from other stock...
Originally posted by Gray Richardson
As for half-fiends or half-celestials, since it is just a template, and since the template doesn't mention any change to the life-span of the creature I assume you would just use the life-span of the base creature.
Whereas I used the 1.5 multiplier for planetouched races, half-breed outsiders used a multiplier of 3 to reflect the touch of immortality upon them. These are admittedly only the house rules my group tends to use, but it makes it quicker and easier to figure out the details when creating characters and NPCs.
Originally posted by Drinnik Shoehorn
Aren't Cambions and Alu-fiends immortal?
If you read Anger of Angels by Sean Reynolds, half-celestials are considered Angels, and Angels are immortal, so....
Personally, I'd either have them be immortal, or something like 1000+6d%.
I think that they should be longer lived than elves, as they are half-immortals themselves....comparable races in Green Ronin products, for example, such as the half-dryad and half-nymph all have lifespans of 1000+ years.
Banshee
Originally posted by Banshee
If you read Anger of Angels by Sean Reynolds, half-celestials are considered Angels, and Angels are immortal, so....
I'd rather have them be immortal, personally. I like the idea of a demonic creature living in the Abyss for millennia, secretly hiding within itself a partly human soul, which finally comes into play when it unexpectedly discovers love...
And Elrond was half-elven, but still immortal.
If we assume they're not immortal, it becomes much more difficult to estimate their lifespans. What's half of forever? I think Javier's solution of having their lifespan be twice that of planetouched is the best one.
Adulthood: 15 years
Barb/Rog/Sor: +1d6
Bard/Ftr/Pal/Rnger: +1d8
Cler/Druid/Monk/Wiz: +2d8
Middle Age: 45
Old: 68
Venerable: 90
Max: +3d20
Originally posted by Uratoh
In the new Planar Handbook, they give Tieflings a full age catagory:
Adulthood: 15 years
Barb/Rog/Sor: +1d6
Bard/Ftr/Pal/Rnger: +1d8
Cler/Druid/Monk/Wiz: +2d8
Middle Age: 45
Old: 68
Venerable: 90
Max: +3d20
These are the same ones that first came out in the Player's Guide to Faerun.
