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#1
zombiegleemax
Jun 06, 2004 18:14:03 Hello,

I used to post here as Fizban's Hat, but as time change so does my name.

Anyway I'm reading my newly arrived copy of Key of Destiny, in preparation for our weekly game this Saturday, and I noticed something distressing. Players of this adventure might not want to read the following...

Turn away thee not of DM status.....

In listing for the Temple located in Pashin, it says to read the sidebar entitled Gods Of Khur in Chapter 2. Yet flipping ahead to check this out, said sidebar seems to be missing. So I flipped page by page through the rest of the adventure, and found no such sidebar. Is this just my copy, or does everybody's copy not have this sidebar.

The same problem arrived for the sidebar entitled The Tribes of Khur.

If it's just my copy could I get somebody to post, e-mail, PM, or point me in the direction of these sidebars. I know this might break some copyright laws, but I really could use this info, and I have purchased the adventure, (yay Noble Knight Games).

Besides these two problems, and few other minor ones the adventure is fantastic, and just the look of it, and the fact there is two more coming have my players salavating in anticipation.

I appreciate any help that can be offered.

Thank you
Dave
#2
talinthas
Jun 06, 2004 19:37:21 if you'd be so kind as to look at this thread , you'll find what you're looking for =)
#3
zombiegleemax
Jun 06, 2004 20:35:50 I appreciate you pointing me towards that thread, and it helped with some other things, but sadly not the 2 topics I asked about. I read through that thread a few times and have not seen anything about those two sidebars that seem to be missing from my copy of this adventure.

So once again if anybody can help with this I'd appreciate it. If I should move this question to that thread I will, I just simply started my own so my problem wouldn't get lost in the chaos of that thread. But if I should have posted my problem there I will gladly comply.

So once again what is the info contained in these two sidebars:

Gods of Khur

The Tribes of Khur

Thanks
#4
zombiegleemax
Jun 06, 2004 23:52:00 I also wondered about the two missing sidebars. Those would be especially helpful as one of my friends would like to play a Khurish ranger/druid, and I wasn't entirely sure who she would worship for her spells or in what she would believe in and practice.

Because I couldn't find much information on the Khurish aspects of Krynn's pantheon, I compiled details based on the two gods the Khurish belief in Rakris originate from-- Habbakuk and Chislev.

I hope this helps somehwat:

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=251178
#5
zombiegleemax
Jun 07, 2004 0:06:22 Shadow,

Thanks that does help a bit, and I appreciate it. Now if I can get details about the Tribes sidebar. Thankfully I have a week before we start, and probably 2 to 3 before it becomes relevant. So that's plenty of time if I have to do it the old fashioned way, (you know make it up ).

Dave
#6
cam_banks
Jun 07, 2004 6:42:43 The Gods of Khur are considered to be the following:

High God/Great God (also known as Skyfather) = Has some elements of Paladine and Chislev
Kargath = Warrior deity, has elements of Kiri-Jolith
Rakiris = Hunter's god, equivalent to Habbakuk or Chislev
Torghan = Avenger god, equivalent to Sargonnas
Elir-sana (or "Daughter") = Healer goddess, equivalent to Mishakal

The Khur don't actually believe these are the same gods as those worshipped by the rest of Ansalon, and indeed don't even believe their gods ever left Krynn, either during the years following the Cataclysm (the "Drowning") or the Age of Mortals. They don't question the ebb and flow of their seers' magical abilities, considering it to be part of the way the world works.

The seven Tribes of Khur, named after the sons of the great leader Keja, are:

Fin-maskar: Enemies of the Khur tribe and descendants of Keja's seventh son, notable hunters and woodworkers. Their totem is the stag, and their capital is in Alan Ak-Khan.
Hachakee: Named for the fourth son of Keja, proud of their battle scars, horsemanship and sword skills. Their totem is the desert fox, and their capital is Ak-Baral. They are also foes of the Khur tribe.
Khur: The only tribe to actually go by name Khur, they are descended from Keja's eldest son Garmac. Scorned by many tribes, they dwell mostly in cities, and take the dragon as their totem. Salah, their greatest and most cunning warrior in the time of the War of the Lance, joined the Dragonarmies and became Salah-Khan, the Green Dragon Highlord, bringing his tribe into prominence in the region. Their capital is Khuri-Khan.
Mayakhur: Named for the third son of Keja, they are the Khur tribe's only real ally. They are known for being unfair at trade and at war, and take the tiger as their totem. Their capital is at Ak-Tubal.
Mikku: These are the "good guys" of the Key of Destiny, named after Keja's fifth son. They enjoy dancing and music, and also have a reputation as thieves. Their totem is the bear, and their capital is Ak-Khurman.
Tondoon: Named for Keja's sixth son, this tribe are largely neutral and practice trade among the other tribes. They have no capital city, avoiding city life altogether, and their totem is the bull.
Weya-lu: The descendants of Keja's second son, and longtime opponents of the Khur tribe. They are honorable warriors who take the hawk as their totem, and their capital is Delphon.

In my campaign, the players have formed strong bonds with the Mikku tribe, who aid them much as described in the adventure. In addition, the Tondoon have made an appearance, led by a janni known as Satrevar. Satrevar is one in a long line of janni who have aided the Tondoon, and in fact is the father of one of the PCs (a half-janni).

It's worth noting that each tribe has its khan, who often lives in the capital (such as the Mikku Khan in Ak-Khurman). One of the khans is also the Grand Khan or Kakhan, and in the current era this is the khan of the Khur tribe, who's the one making deals with the Nerakans. The Grand Khan isn't necessarily obeyed by the Khurish people, but he's the one with the most temporal power at any point (and in the case of the Khur tribe, the one with all the contacts among dragons).

This information was culled from Heroes of Hope and also appears in the 15th anniversary edition of the Dragonlance Classics adventures. I made great use of those books.

Cheers,
Cam
#7
brimstone
Jun 07, 2004 11:05:40 Also, the write up on Khur is missing from Chapter 3. (in the side bar "What the Mikku know..." it mentions that they know all the information in said sidebar in Chapter 3...I either didn't find or, or it was missing).

Also...the tribe's seer mentions a funky happening between the dragonspawn, the spectre, and someone called Lothian from the Epilogue. I couldn't find an Epilogue or any information on Lothian (if I'm spelling it correctly).

Any help?

(geez...at this rate, the web enhancement is going to be a module unto itself! :D Okay, so it won't really be that big...but it's certainly going to need a lot in it)
#8
zombiegleemax
Jun 07, 2004 12:35:47 The encounters for Khuri-khan, Delphon, Delphon undercity and Flotsam also seem to have gone missing. I realise that these places are not on the "official route" via Ak-khurman and Port Balifor, but the alternate route does seem a more sensible one to take given that Port Balifor is controlled by the Dark Knights and the trek across the Desolation can be largely avoided.
Also who is it that the Khan of Kuri-khan is rumoured to be contemplating an alliance with? The Dark Knights or the minotaurs?
#9
zombiegleemax
Jun 07, 2004 12:55:04 Thank you Cam, I appreciate your help, and I'm sure my players will too.
#10
zombiegleemax
Jun 08, 2004 18:09:49
Originally posted by Brimstone
Also...the tribe's seer mentions a funky happening between the dragonspawn, the spectre, and someone called Lothian from the Epilogue. I couldn't find an Epilogue or any information on Lothian (if I'm spelling it correctly).

Actually, the seer mentions not the dragonspawn, but Soulburn, a young red dragon.
#11
brimstone
Jun 09, 2004 9:49:36
Originally posted by cnposner
Actually, the seer mentions not the dragonspawn, but Soulburn, a young red dragon.

Oh...okay, I miss read that then, I thought Soulburn was the dragonspawn. She's someone else then, I take it?

Still...is there any other mention of Lothian (sp)? Or did I just miss that too?
#12
cam_banks
Jun 09, 2004 9:55:52
Originally posted by Brimstone
Oh...okay, I miss read that then, I thought Soulburn was the dragonspawn. She's someone else then, I take it?

Still...is there any other mention of Lothian (sp)? Or did I just miss that too?

You'll learn more about Lothian in the next adventure. The dragonspawn on the cover of the module is Sindra.

Cheers,
Cam
#13
brimstone
Jun 09, 2004 12:17:11
Originally posted by Cam Banks
You'll learn more about Lothian in the next adventure. The dragonspawn on the cover of the module is Sindra.

Okay...that's cool...but, according to Key of Destiny we're supposed to learn about Lothian now...

I guess there is a missing Epilogue.
#14
zombiegleemax
Jun 09, 2004 12:25:24 What I want to know is: Who is the ghostly looking elf on the cover of the module ?

~~~
#15
brimstone
Jun 09, 2004 12:48:24
Originally posted by LordofIllusions
What I want to know is: Who is the ghostly looking elf on the cover of the module ?

I assume she's the elven spectre mentioned in the last couple pages of Chapter 6.

The "Spectre of Sorrows" maybe? heh heh
#16
zombiegleemax
Jun 09, 2004 12:59:46
Originally posted by Brimstone
I assume she's the elven spectre mentioned in the last couple pages of Chapter 6.

The "Spectre of Sorrows" maybe? heh heh

Oh ok. You must be talking about Kayleigh(Pg. 148) ?

~~~
#17
brimstone
Jun 09, 2004 13:06:54
Originally posted by LordofIllusions
Oh ok. You must be talking about Kayleigh(Pg. 148) ?

That was my assumption. The final "vision" of the Mikku seer involves Kayleigh, Soulborn, and Lothian. (see Epilogue) Although I thought it was Kayleigh, Sindra, and Lothian...there must have been a seperate "vision" for Sindra.

But the point is...Lothian is not mentioned anywhere...there is no Epilogue.
#18
karui_kage
Jun 09, 2004 21:19:32
Originally posted by Brimstone
there is no Epilogue.

There is no spoon.
#19
brimstone
Jun 10, 2004 11:06:51
Originally posted by Karui_Kage
There is no spoon.

Come again?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Jun 06, 2004 18:14:03	Hello, I used to post here as Fizban's Hat, but as time change so does my name. Anyway I'm reading my newly arrived copy of Key of Destiny, in preparation for our weekly game this Saturday, and I noticed something distressing. Players of this adventure might not want to read the following... Turn away thee not of DM status..... In listing for the Temple located in Pashin, it says to read the sidebar entitled Gods Of Khur in Chapter 2. Yet flipping ahead to check this out, said sidebar seems to be missing. So I flipped page by page through the rest of the adventure, and found no such sidebar. Is this just my copy, or does everybody's copy not have this sidebar. The same problem arrived for the sidebar entitled The Tribes of Khur. If it's just my copy could I get somebody to post, e-mail, PM, or point me in the direction of these sidebars. I know this might break some copyright laws, but I really could use this info, and I have purchased the adventure, (yay Noble Knight Games). Besides these two problems, and few other minor ones the adventure is fantastic, and just the look of it, and the fact there is two more coming have my players salavating in anticipation. I appreciate any help that can be offered. Thank you Dave
#2 talinthas Jun 06, 2004 19:37:21	if you'd be so kind as to look at this thread , you'll find what you're looking for =)
#3 zombiegleemax Jun 06, 2004 20:35:50	I appreciate you pointing me towards that thread, and it helped with some other things, but sadly not the 2 topics I asked about. I read through that thread a few times and have not seen anything about those two sidebars that seem to be missing from my copy of this adventure. So once again if anybody can help with this I'd appreciate it. If I should move this question to that thread I will, I just simply started my own so my problem wouldn't get lost in the chaos of that thread. But if I should have posted my problem there I will gladly comply. So once again what is the info contained in these two sidebars: Gods of Khur The Tribes of Khur Thanks
#4 zombiegleemax Jun 06, 2004 23:52:00	I also wondered about the two missing sidebars. Those would be especially helpful as one of my friends would like to play a Khurish ranger/druid, and I wasn't entirely sure who she would worship for her spells or in what she would believe in and practice. Because I couldn't find much information on the Khurish aspects of Krynn's pantheon, I compiled details based on the two gods the Khurish belief in Rakris originate from-- Habbakuk and Chislev. I hope this helps somehwat: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=251178
#5 zombiegleemax Jun 07, 2004 0:06:22	Shadow, Thanks that does help a bit, and I appreciate it. Now if I can get details about the Tribes sidebar. Thankfully I have a week before we start, and probably 2 to 3 before it becomes relevant. So that's plenty of time if I have to do it the old fashioned way, (you know make it up ). Dave
#6 cam_banks Jun 07, 2004 6:42:43	The Gods of Khur are considered to be the following: High God/Great God (also known as Skyfather) = Has some elements of Paladine and Chislev Kargath = Warrior deity, has elements of Kiri-Jolith Rakiris = Hunter's god, equivalent to Habbakuk or Chislev Torghan = Avenger god, equivalent to Sargonnas Elir-sana (or "Daughter") = Healer goddess, equivalent to Mishakal The Khur don't actually believe these are the same gods as those worshipped by the rest of Ansalon, and indeed don't even believe their gods ever left Krynn, either during the years following the Cataclysm (the "Drowning") or the Age of Mortals. They don't question the ebb and flow of their seers' magical abilities, considering it to be part of the way the world works. The seven Tribes of Khur, named after the sons of the great leader Keja, are: Fin-maskar: Enemies of the Khur tribe and descendants of Keja's seventh son, notable hunters and woodworkers. Their totem is the stag, and their capital is in Alan Ak-Khan. Hachakee: Named for the fourth son of Keja, proud of their battle scars, horsemanship and sword skills. Their totem is the desert fox, and their capital is Ak-Baral. They are also foes of the Khur tribe. Khur: The only tribe to actually go by name Khur, they are descended from Keja's eldest son Garmac. Scorned by many tribes, they dwell mostly in cities, and take the dragon as their totem. Salah, their greatest and most cunning warrior in the time of the War of the Lance, joined the Dragonarmies and became Salah-Khan, the Green Dragon Highlord, bringing his tribe into prominence in the region. Their capital is Khuri-Khan. Mayakhur: Named for the third son of Keja, they are the Khur tribe's only real ally. They are known for being unfair at trade and at war, and take the tiger as their totem. Their capital is at Ak-Tubal. Mikku: These are the "good guys" of the Key of Destiny, named after Keja's fifth son. They enjoy dancing and music, and also have a reputation as thieves. Their totem is the bear, and their capital is Ak-Khurman. Tondoon: Named for Keja's sixth son, this tribe are largely neutral and practice trade among the other tribes. They have no capital city, avoiding city life altogether, and their totem is the bull. Weya-lu: The descendants of Keja's second son, and longtime opponents of the Khur tribe. They are honorable warriors who take the hawk as their totem, and their capital is Delphon. In my campaign, the players have formed strong bonds with the Mikku tribe, who aid them much as described in the adventure. In addition, the Tondoon have made an appearance, led by a janni known as Satrevar. Satrevar is one in a long line of janni who have aided the Tondoon, and in fact is the father of one of the PCs (a half-janni). It's worth noting that each tribe has its khan, who often lives in the capital (such as the Mikku Khan in Ak-Khurman). One of the khans is also the Grand Khan or Kakhan, and in the current era this is the khan of the Khur tribe, who's the one making deals with the Nerakans. The Grand Khan isn't necessarily obeyed by the Khurish people, but he's the one with the most temporal power at any point (and in the case of the Khur tribe, the one with all the contacts among dragons). This information was culled from Heroes of Hope and also appears in the 15th anniversary edition of the Dragonlance Classics adventures. I made great use of those books. Cheers, Cam
#7 brimstone Jun 07, 2004 11:05:40	Also, the write up on Khur is missing from Chapter 3. (in the side bar "What the Mikku know..." it mentions that they know all the information in said sidebar in Chapter 3...I either didn't find or, or it was missing). Also...the tribe's seer mentions a funky happening between the dragonspawn, the spectre, and someone called Lothian from the Epilogue. I couldn't find an Epilogue or any information on Lothian (if I'm spelling it correctly). Any help? (geez...at this rate, the web enhancement is going to be a module unto itself! :D Okay, so it won't really be that big...but it's certainly going to need a lot in it)
#8 zombiegleemax Jun 07, 2004 12:35:47	The encounters for Khuri-khan, Delphon, Delphon undercity and Flotsam also seem to have gone missing. I realise that these places are not on the "official route" via Ak-khurman and Port Balifor, but the alternate route does seem a more sensible one to take given that Port Balifor is controlled by the Dark Knights and the trek across the Desolation can be largely avoided. Also who is it that the Khan of Kuri-khan is rumoured to be contemplating an alliance with? The Dark Knights or the minotaurs?
#9 zombiegleemax Jun 07, 2004 12:55:04	Thank you Cam, I appreciate your help, and I'm sure my players will too.
#10 zombiegleemax Jun 08, 2004 18:09:49	Originally posted by Brimstone Also...the tribe's seer mentions a funky happening between the dragonspawn, the spectre, and someone called Lothian from the Epilogue. I couldn't find an Epilogue or any information on Lothian (if I'm spelling it correctly). Actually, the seer mentions not the dragonspawn, but Soulburn, a young red dragon.
#11 brimstone Jun 09, 2004 9:49:36	Originally posted by cnposner Actually, the seer mentions not the dragonspawn, but Soulburn, a young red dragon. Oh...okay, I miss read that then, I thought Soulburn was the dragonspawn. She's someone else then, I take it? Still...is there any other mention of Lothian (sp)? Or did I just miss that too?
#12 cam_banks Jun 09, 2004 9:55:52	Originally posted by Brimstone Oh...okay, I miss read that then, I thought Soulburn was the dragonspawn. She's someone else then, I take it? Still...is there any other mention of Lothian (sp)? Or did I just miss that too? You'll learn more about Lothian in the next adventure. The dragonspawn on the cover of the module is Sindra. Cheers, Cam
#13 brimstone Jun 09, 2004 12:17:11	Originally posted by Cam Banks You'll learn more about Lothian in the next adventure. The dragonspawn on the cover of the module is Sindra. Okay...that's cool...but, according to Key of Destiny we're supposed to learn about Lothian now... I guess there is a missing Epilogue.
#14 zombiegleemax Jun 09, 2004 12:25:24	What I want to know is: Who is the ghostly looking elf on the cover of the module ? ~~~
#15 brimstone Jun 09, 2004 12:48:24	Originally posted by LordofIllusions What I want to know is: Who is the ghostly looking elf on the cover of the module ? I assume she's the elven spectre mentioned in the last couple pages of Chapter 6. The "Spectre of Sorrows" maybe? heh heh
#16 zombiegleemax Jun 09, 2004 12:59:46	Originally posted by Brimstone I assume she's the elven spectre mentioned in the last couple pages of Chapter 6. The "Spectre of Sorrows" maybe? heh heh Oh ok. You must be talking about Kayleigh(Pg. 148) ? ~~~
#17 brimstone Jun 09, 2004 13:06:54	Originally posted by LordofIllusions *Oh ok. You must be talking about Kayleigh(Pg. 148) ?* That was my assumption. The final "vision" of the Mikku seer involves Kayleigh, Soulborn, and Lothian. (see Epilogue) Although I thought it was Kayleigh, Sindra, and Lothian...there must have been a seperate "vision" for Sindra. But the point is...Lothian is not mentioned anywhere...there is no Epilogue.
#18 karui_kage Jun 09, 2004 21:19:32	Originally posted by Brimstone there is no Epilogue. There is no spoon.
#19 brimstone Jun 10, 2004 11:06:51	Originally posted by Karui_Kage There is no spoon. Come again?