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#1zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 8:11:34 | This MAY be a dumb question but I do not have my books with me at the current time. In one of the original DL trilogy books Alhana Starbreeze calls her griffons to her telepathically. What I want to know is do the elves in DL have telepathic links with the griffons ? ~~~ |
#2jonesyJul 13, 2004 8:36:10 | Originally posted by LordofIllusions No, I don't think she did. I'm going through my copies of the Chronicles and can't find anything like that. Could you cite the part of the story where you recall it? |
#3zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 8:38:37 | Originally posted by jonesy Sure. Dragons of Winter Night pgs 68-69 & pgs 86-87. ~~~ |
#4jonesyJul 13, 2004 8:44:42 | Found it. Page 73 on my DoWN. That's funny. It really does say she uses telepathy. I never even took notice. |
#5zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 8:51:09 | Some elves have the abilty to use psionincs, though it extremely rare, and has weakened significantly over the millenia... It follows bloodlines, the Slvanesti & Qualinesti Elven Royal families have it in their ancestry, and that is why Alhana was able to use it... There are several such instances throughout the Saga, and I believe either Tracy or Marg flat-out said it in the Annotated chronicles... |
#6zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 8:54:10 | Originally posted by jonesy That is why I was wondering is THAT some kind of mechanic about the DL elves that the writers missed or what ? Let me know please because if they DO have telepathy I want to have them using it in my campaign. ~~~ |
#7iltharanosJul 13, 2004 9:06:30 | Interestingly enough, in at least one of the Kingpriest trilogy novels, Quarath (the corrupt Silvanesti advisor to the Kingpriest) is stated as: "He could sense the griffins now, circling high above." "He sent his mind questing, seeking one of the griffins ... " So it doesn't flat out call it telepathy, but it certainly seems as though there is some sort of greater-than-normal connection there. As for a game-mechanic explanation, it's possible that this ability is due to: 1. A feat: e.g. Griffin Rider You have an innate connection to trained griffins: Prerequisites: Silvanesti elf Benefits: You can communicate telepathically with any "domesticated" griffons within 100 ft. of your position. 2. A prestige class that has a similar class ability as the above feat (or maybe gives you the above feat for free). 3. A spell: e.g. Silvanesti clerics/wizards cast some spell that creates a permanent (or long duration) telepathic ability between griffins and elves. 4. Griffins != Griffons. Griffins are variants of Griffons that have been raised and bred by the Silvanesti for so many generations that there is simply a greater (i.e. telepathic) connection between them and their masters. |
#8zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 9:07:49 | Thanks. Can we get an OFFICIAL standpoint on here as well ? ~~~ |
#9zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 10:22:34 | I almost want to say that elves were able to tap into a latent ability to channel mysticism (mentalism) |
#10zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 10:25:22 | Again: "Telepathy was an ancient art known among the Silvanesti elves and, prior to the cataclysm, was practiced primarily only by the royal staff for purposes of administering royal edicts across the rather large expanse of Silvanesti. After the Cataclysm, telepathis use dwindled even further until, by the time of the war of the Lance, it was known only among the royal household itself. It fell into complete disuse soon thereafter." - Tracy Hickman I repete that was in the Annotated chronicles. it is filled with cool stuff like that, you really should consider its purchase... There are more instances of such activity in the Elven nations Trilogy... |
#11zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 10:33:40 | Dang, I missed your ORIGINAL posting with that information in it. I usually scroll right to the bottom. Thank you Apocalypse. ~~~ |
#12zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 11:41:22 | So only royal elves have this ability? |
#13zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 11:51:33 | Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn THAT'S what I am asking. Because if OTHER elves have it as well to some extent I am adding in some house rules. ~~~ |
#14brimstoneJul 13, 2004 12:04:45 | Originally posted by LordofIllusions I would say that no they don't (except for rare exceptions in the royal bloodlines) to true telepathy. However...with the discovery of mysticism (most specifically the sphere, Mentalism), perhaps some elves have tried to recapture the ancient ability of telepathy...I'm betting that although they no longer possess true telepathy, they may have a unique intunement (is that a word?) to Mentalism. Just a thought. |
#15zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 12:06:32 | If it is a house rule then it is a house rule. I dont think that anything official would change that. |
#16zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 12:06:52 | Originally posted by Brimstone Hmmm that gives me an idea. I was thinking of toying around with some mechanics from The Wheel of Time RPG anyway(Latent abilities, etc.) and THIS gives me the reason to make a certain NEW PLAYER'S elven character VERY unique(Within reason of course.). ~~~ |
#17zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 12:11:51 | the mentalism sphere might not be a bad explanation for this ability. |
#18zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 12:32:50 | Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn I will have to read up on it once I get a chance. ~~~ |
#19zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 12:37:41 | Please let us know what you decide to do. |
#20zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 12:39:40 | Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn Sure thing I should have made up my mind(Yes it takes me THAT long.) by Friday at least. ~~~ |
#21zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 12:43:53 | is the elf in question a mystic or what class does he play? |
#22zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 12:45:55 | Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn He has not decided yet what he wants to play-class wise. Like I said I run various groups. I have a MAIN group, a back-up 2nd group, AND a cameo appearance group. This guy is going to be part of the latter. ~~~ |
#23zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 13:00:04 | If he is a back up character who is popping up once in a while, why go through all of this work? |
#24zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 13:03:02 | Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn Heh. It's not work for me. I actually ENJOY creating new stuff for the campaign. Besides if he works out the way I THINK he will his character will eventually become permanent once Spectre of Sorrows comes out. *Gears turning in head* ~~~ |
#25zombiegleemaxJul 13, 2004 13:05:26 | PLEASE keep us abreast of the situation. It sounds like it will work out well for all parties involved. |
#26zombiegleemaxJul 27, 2004 10:30:03 | I think it is more of a bond |