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#1 zombiegleemax Jul 13, 2004 16:37:59	I was just wondering if there's any plan/possibility of including more information on Taladas in future books. I've heard a lot about this setting, but the books are no longer available, and I'd love to see 3.5 data on the place. The information in that one Dragon Magazine (318?) whet my appetite, and I want more...
#2 zombiegleemax Jul 13, 2004 16:56:23	Originally posted by Khaibit_Ema_Neteru I was just wondering if there's any plan/possibility of including more information on Taladas in future books. I've heard a lot about this setting, but the books are no longer available, and I'd love to see 3.5 data on the place. The information in that one Dragon Magazine (318?) whet my appetite, and I want more... There is to be a trilogy of novels on Taladas by Chris Pierson, with the first volume next year.
#3 zombiegleemax Jul 13, 2004 18:16:40	You totally just made my day. I was going to ask about novels next. But I was asking more about setting information in game books. Launching a self-sufficient setting would probably be a bit much, but maybe including information for it in a few Dragonlance books, along with the more mainstream Ansalon info...
#4 iltharanos Jul 13, 2004 18:25:52	Originally posted by Khaibit_Ema_Neteru You totally just made my day. I was going to ask about novels next. But I was asking more about setting information in game books. Launching a self-sufficient setting would probably be a bit much, but maybe including information for it in a few Dragonlance books, along with the more mainstream Ansalon info... I believe there are plans to introduce a 3.5 supplement to Taladas following the release of the novels. There was some mention of this in one of the news articles on dragonlance.com.
#5 talinthas Jul 13, 2004 20:00:00	today or tomorrow, my review of the Time of the Dragon box set will be done, and its also gonna serve as a great summary of the setting as a whole. Taladas is the best thing that ever happened to DL =)
#6 ferratus Jul 15, 2004 1:58:17	Well I don't know about that... but Taladas was indeed a good section of it. Its just too bad that nobody has ever bothered to explain the politics, cultures and geography of Ansalon. I think as well that it is long past time that Taladas and Ansalon become one campaign setting, especially with all the changes that have gone on in the 5th Age. It isn't backwards Ansalon anymore. There are minotaur kingdoms, afflicted kender, nomad elves, and non-WoHS magic on both continents now.
#7 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 11:54:40	I thought that there was going to be a group of novels based in Taladas. It would be neat to see how the 5th Age and the Return of the Gods affected the forgotten continent.
#8 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 12:36:25	I agree.....thats one thing I want to see happen with the entire setting.....I want to see Taladas become included in the setting mainstream. It would make the world events that much larger and whatnot....plus add quite a bit of diversity to the setting
#9 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 12:46:09	Was it a popular setting?
#10 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 13:38:37	In my opinion yes, I have never heard of someone who didnt like playing in Taladas. As I said before, I think that is what should be added to the setting to really make a difference in it. Id actually like to see it happen with the trilogy that Chris Pierson is supposed to be writing. Then have the sourcebook be called "Taladas: Dragonlance Campaign Setting Companion" It would probably be the largest sourcebook yet, with near as much info as the DLCS itself, and information on playing in Taladas through the ages. Its obvious that there would be a chapter devoted to races, one devoted to how magic works and affects Taladas, the geography, religion in taladas......oooh.....the more I talk about it, the more I want it!
#11 ferratus Jul 15, 2004 13:40:29	Not particularly a popular setting. See, Taladas had two things working against it. 1) It was not a fantasy setting that broke the mold of generic fantasy like Darksun or Planescape, and we already had the Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk, and Dragonlance settings already. 2) It didn't have a novel line, movie, tv series, or video game to promote it, which is a good way to expose people to a premade setting. Like Taladas I imagine that Eberron will have an inital rush of interest by RPGers, but will not be able to maintain its momentum. Unless of course an Eberron novel line is planned for the future.
#12 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 13:40:52	If Pierson is writing it then it will be a great set of books. I was never able to play much in the world but I am sure my group would if it were updated.
#13 iltharanos Jul 15, 2004 14:12:06	Originally posted by ferratus Like Taladas I imagine that Eberron will have an inital rush of interest by RPGers, but will not be able to maintain its momentum. Unless of course an Eberron novel line is planned for the future. There is indeed an Eberron novel line planned for the future. They're actually sending out a call for novel proposals at this moment.
#14 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 16:36:52	If Peirson writes it Ill read it even if Raistlin comes back.
#15 zombiegleemax Jul 15, 2004 23:17:06	If raistlin comes back again, I might be forced to kill someone. Seriously, it was cool the first time. And acceptable the second.
#16 zombiegleemax Jul 16, 2004 0:16:49	I know I was joking and eluding to the fact that Chris Peirson is a freaking good author.
#17 zombiegleemax Jul 16, 2004 2:10:19	;) I know. I'm just required to make that comment any time ANYONE refers to raistlin coming back. It's part of my contract with the powers that be.
#18 zombiegleemax Jul 19, 2004 11:27:52	Bring back Raistlin, even if it is to Taladas.
#19 Dragonhelm Jul 19, 2004 12:02:50	Originally posted by talinthas today or tomorrow, my review of the Time of the Dragon box set will be done, and its also gonna serve as a great summary of the setting as a whole. Looking forward to it, Tal! Taladas is the best thing that ever happened to DL =) It certainly has had an impact! Many of the ideas of Taladas were used in the 5th age/SAGA materials. I think the one problem I had with the initial boxed set for Taladas was the art. I'm not a big fan of that style, and while I think it was great for Ravenloft, it wasn't my favorite for Dragonlance. I think I would get into Taladas more with the type of art that Sovereign Press has been using.
#20 wolf72 Jul 19, 2004 21:33:28	Originally posted by ferratus ... Like Taladas I imagine that Eberron will have an inital rush of interest by RPGers, but will not be able to maintain its momentum. Unless of course an Eberron novel line is planned for the future. I'm more of the camp that would like at least one decent source book for the setting ... not all gung-ho on several books, one is good enough (heck a 3.x book 15-20$ range, for each setting would be ideal for me)
#21 zombiegleemax Jul 19, 2004 22:07:02	Originally posted by ferratus It didn't have a novel line, movie, tv series, or video game to promote it, which is a good way to expose people to a premade setting. Actually it did have a computer game promoting it. One of the old games released by SSI...
#22 zombiegleemax Jul 19, 2004 22:52:05	Taladas is the best thing that happened to DL? Theres no novels on it, its never mentioned anywhere and the material isn't updated to 3rd edition. Wheres the impact?
#23 zombiegleemax Jul 19, 2004 23:04:21	It didn´t have an impact per se...but then again I don´t think it was intended to be the next TSR blockbuster. It did offer a chance for us gamers to expand our gaming options with regard to Dragonlance. And in my opinion it did a good job.
#24 talinthas Jul 19, 2004 23:12:52	the box set an example for how DL products should be. It gave a brilliant map, a giant book full of cultural and political data on the races and nations, a book full of new rules and nifty flavor shifts from ansalon, and a whole new spin on the tiredness of krynn. It hit the jackpot combination of great flavor, dragonlancyness, good writing, and that sense of wonder that hasn't really manifested in ansalon in a while.
#25 zombiegleemax Jul 19, 2004 23:29:03	It was a great boxed set with a lot of nice juicy stuff to expand our campaigns! It did one flaw though: The artwork (D-helm has mentioned this already...). For me artwork is a huge part of what sets the flavor of a product, and on that front Taladas fell short of its mark. I didn´t like that kind of artwork in Ravenloft and I certainly didn´t like it in Dragonlance! One must not forget the other product released that dealt with Taladas...Taladas: The Minotaurs. In my opinion it´s one of the very best sourcebooks ever published. It went into detail about the Minotaur League (which is a large part of Taladas) and painted the perfect picture of one of my favorite Dragonlance races (the Taladas version anyway).
#26 ferratus Jul 20, 2004 5:09:50	Originally posted by talinthas the box set an example for how DL products should be. It gave a brilliant map, a giant book full of cultural and political data on the races and nations, I'll certainly agree with that! Taladas was indeed very well fleshed out with distinct cultures and organizations. As well, it let us know the *sarcastically* inconsequential things like where the borders were, what the capital cities are, who governs and how well, etc. Meanwhile, we still don't know how Solamnia is governed, even though it is the most powerful nation on Ansalon.
#27 ferratus Jul 20, 2004 5:14:00	Originally posted by talinthas the box set an example for how DL products should be. It gave a brilliant map, a giant book full of cultural and political data on the races and nations, I'll certainly agree with that! Taladas was indeed very well fleshed out with distinct cultures and organizations. As well, it let us know the inconsequential things like where the borders were, what the capital cities are, who governs and how well, etc. Meanwhile, we still don't know how Solamnia is governed, even though it is the most powerful nation on Ansalon.
#28 Sysane Jul 20, 2004 11:47:26	What I will find interesting is how Taladas was effect by Takhisis stealing the world and the Dragon Overlords.
#29 zombiegleemax Jul 20, 2004 14:00:14	. What I will find interesting is how Taladas was effect by Takhisis stealing the world and the Dragon Overlords. Hmm. Interesting. I hadn't thought about this. It only makes sense that, when the alien dragons started pouring through, that they probably KNEW there was a continent over there... And it's possible a few might've gone over there and claimed territory...
#30 Sysane Jul 20, 2004 14:12:51	Not to mention how the Dragon Knights and the Thenol Empire were effected. Count Malarkus (sp?) Was one of my favorite NPC's from the Box Set
#31 iltharanos Jul 22, 2004 14:06:02	Originally posted by ferratus I'll certainly agree with that! Taladas was indeed very well fleshed out with distinct cultures and organizations. As well, it let us know the inconsequential things like where the borders were, what the capital cities are, who governs and how well, etc. Meanwhile, we still don't know how Solamnia is governed, even though it is the most powerful nation on Ansalon. Maybe it's a good thing then that Solamnia is no longer the most powerful nation on Ansalon, given their losses in the War of Souls. It seems Ergoth would be the primary human nation on Ansalon now ... of course, we know about as much about the inner workings of Ergoth as we do about Solamnia (unless you count the nice background info. in one of the SAGA modules).
#32 zombiegleemax Jul 22, 2004 14:08:14	Do the moons also affect the magic of the mages in Taladas?
#33 Sysane Jul 22, 2004 14:17:27	If I remember correctly the moons did effect them in 2e, but I don't think it would in 3.5. There is no equivalent of the ToHS in Taladas. They would pretty much be deemed renegades by Ansalon standards.
#34 zombiegleemax Jul 22, 2004 14:29:10	That is kind of too bad if the distinction was made now. However, stranger things have happened with works are updated.
#35 Sysane Jul 22, 2004 14:44:01	I'm sure whenever they get to doing a Taladas 3.5 book they will have some PrC for wizards and what not. I'm looking forward to elf animal clan, cult of sharkmen, and the dead gnome (damned?) PrCs.
#36 iltharanos Jul 22, 2004 14:46:07	Originally posted by Sysane I'm sure whenever they get to doing a Taladas 3.5 book they will have some PrC for wizards and what not. I'm looking forward to elf animal clan, cult of sharkmen, and the dead gnome (damned?) PrCs. Well, wait no more! Dragon magazine #315 featured prestige classes for the Shark Cultist and the Companion of the Dead, both very cool.
#37 zombiegleemax Jul 22, 2004 14:47:45	Is there a release date on this product or are we just doing a wish list?
#38 Sysane Jul 22, 2004 14:55:12	I know that there is a Taladas novel line in the works followed by 3.5 sourcebook. I think it was for 2005 but don't qoute me on that.
#39 zombiegleemax Jul 22, 2004 15:09:39	2005? Not really that long to wait unless SOV press follows some of its past publishing difficulties.