The Remnant........a wicked cool looking undead creature
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Cheers,
Cam
Originally posted by iltharanos
Yah, tis cool. But I was hoping for the huldrefolk. :sad:
The huldrefolk is in the book, but you'll have to actually get the book to check it out! We can't give everything away for free.
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
Originally posted by Serena DarkMyst
Yay! I get to announce it again.......the fifth preview from Towers of High Sorcery is..........................
The Remnant........a wicked cool looking undead creature
The remnant is a creature designed with the demi-lich of Fistandantilus from the original DL3 ("Dragons of Hope") module in mind. It was scary enough in AD&D 1st Edition, but now in 3.5 a demi-lich is an epic-level creature that will wipe out a mid-level party within a few rounds. Also, given the fact that Fistandantilus/Raistlin did not die in the explosion the original creature does not make sense any more. The remnant is a cool replacement that fits the facts, and can be used for many situations involving powerful magic.
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
Originally posted by jechambers
Also, given the fact that Fistandantilus/Raistlin did not die in the explosion the original creature does not make sense any more. The remnant is a cool replacement that fits the facts, and can be used for many situations involving powerful magic.
Okay...wait, I'm confused. Since Fisti/Raistlin did not die, as you say, then how can the Remnant work for DL3? This write up says the remnant is the "remains of a powerful wizard or sorcerer who died in a great surge of magic or who's magic consumed them."
Could you clarify your above statement a little? Thanks man!
Originally posted by jechambers
The huldrefolk is in the book, but you'll have to actually get the book to check it out! We can't give everything away for free.
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
Oh, no worries on that account, I already own every 3rd edition Dragonlance product cranked out (as well as more than a few Sovereign Stone products) and plan on owning the Towers of High Sorcery as well.
It's just that I lack patience. :D
Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
Looks pretty neat. Will there be more monsters in the book?
Well, there's at least the Remnant, and now we know the Huldrefolk are in there too. Didn't someone mention the dreadwolves as well? Or was that just on a wish list?
Perhaps there are some DL specific Familiars as well (like the kingfisher or goatsucker or kodragon....) :D
Originally posted by Brimstone
Okay...wait, I'm confused. Since Fisti/Raistlin did not die, as you say, then how can the Remnant work for DL3? This write up says the remnant is the "remains of a powerful wizard or sorcerer who died in a great surge of magic or who's magic consumed them."
Could you clarify your above statement a little? Thanks man!
In general a remnant is going to be all that's left of some poor spellcaster who died in a magical catastrophe, however I envisioned they can also be used for unusual circumstances such as the blast that leveled the Plains of Dergoth. I could see a remnant left behind when a retributive strike from a Staff of Power (or equivalent) blasts a wizard into the Ethereal Plane.
I think of a remnant as sort of a magical echo, an imprint of a spellcaster left behind. Perhaps that should have been stated as such in the text, but it still works just fine as is. :D
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
they wont be in the TOHS right?
Originally posted by Brimstone
Well, there's at least the Remnant, and now we know the Huldrefolk are in there too. Didn't someone mention the dreadwolves as well? Or was that just on a wish list?
Perhaps there are some DL specific Familiars as well (like the kingfisher or goatsucker or kodragon....) :D
The "Dread Creature" template is in TOWERS, and it would work just fine with wolves (ala Legend of Huma. The example used, however, is a Dread Ape.
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
Originally posted by jechambers
I could see a remnant left behind when a retributive strike from a Staff of Power (or equivalent) blasts a wizard into the Ethereal Plane.
So...a huge recoil of magic that blasts a wizard into the Abyss would work to, eh? That's cool. I figured that's where you might be going with that...some sort of freaky soul/undead/magic echo of said wizard on the material plane.
Thanks for the clarification.
Originally posted by Serena DarkMyst
is it possible to get a table of contents for the book Jamie?
For the moment I can give you this:
Chapter One: Wizards of Ansalon
Chapter Two: Spells & Magical Objects
Chapter Three: Gods & the Orders
Chapter Four: The Towers
Chapter Five: The Test
Chapter Six: Creatures
Chapter Seven: Rivals
It's a 160-page, full-color hardcover with the same glossy paper as used in the Bestiary. It's also the last of our "big border" products, as War of the Lance has slimmer borders and wider columns of text.
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
Originally posted by jechambers
It's also the last of our "big border" products, as War of the Lance has slimmer borders and wider columns of text.
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
Thank you, sir, thank you...
Originally posted by Baron the Curse
Thank you, sir, thank you...
I'm curious though...is the border itself the same only smaller (meaning it still has the stylelized "stone" inscribed celtic knots with the torn parchment sitting on top) or is it like the DLDMS and the KoD with just the celtic knot border with no extra little torn parchment or stone flare? Just wondering.
Originally posted by Brimstone
So...a huge recoil of magic that blasts a wizard into the Abyss would work to, eh? That's cool. I figured that's where you might be going with that...some sort of freaky soul/undead/magic echo of said wizard on the material plane.
That was exactly the design intent behind the remnant, yes. Hence the name.
It's undead, but it isn't the spirit or soul of the original spellcaster. One of the most disturbing things an archmage could witness is returning to the scene of such an arcane explosion only to come across his own remnant.Cheers,
Cam
The artwork, as has become usual, is fantastic. Artwork I think is more important for monsters more than anything else in selling how cool a creature concept is. That is a big reason of why the Beastiary was such as success.
I have to say though I disagree with the design of that monster. Well... more to the point I disagree how two ideas come together.
If this is an echo of a wizard spirit, then you would expect it to be a template with the intelligence and spell-casting ability.
If however it was a creature of explosive magic that either took the form of the wizard, or animated the blackened bones and tattered robes of the wizard, it makes more sense. That's the explaination I'll be using to explain why it isn't a template.
Originally posted by jechambers
It's a 160-page, full-color hardcover with the same glossy paper as used in the Bestiary. It's also the last of our "big border" products, as War of the Lance has slimmer borders and wider columns of text.
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
Thank God. Now if only we could get a "Revised DLCS" with art on the par of the current stuff, the missing pages and perhaps a bit more extras to make it as good as the Eberron CS and FRCS books. Will never happen, but I can dream. Anyway, keep up the amazing work guys!
You see I was attempting to go back through the archives on DL3E.com and Dragonlance.com to re-read the previews, and I noticed something.
What was preview #2?
The ones I found were:
#1 - Daltigoth, the Crimson Keep
#2 - ??????
#3 - TimeReaver Spell
#4 - Renegade Hunter Prc
#5 - The Remnant monster
Just curious to see if there's a misnumbering somewhere, or if I missed one.
As for this preview, well it does the trick for me. I can´t wait to throw a remnant at my spellcasters (I hate spellcasters! ;)). Judging from this one and the previous previews the ToHS seems like a great book. It really does offer a wealth of material on the WoHS. I´m buying it for sure (but then I buy every Dragonlance material that comes out)!
Originally posted by jechambers
For the moment I can give you this:
Chapter One: Wizards of Ansalon
Chapter Two: Spells & Magical Objects
Chapter Three: Gods & the Orders
Chapter Four: The Towers
Chapter Five: The Test
Chapter Six: Creatures
Chapter Seven: Rivals
It's a 160-page, full-color hardcover with the same glossy paper as used in the Bestiary. It's also the last of our "big border" products, as War of the Lance has slimmer borders and wider columns of text.
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
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Love always,
GCS
(Edited by WizO Drake due to content.)
By the way just finished WoS bout 5 min ago and looking forward more to the ToHS book, to see what spells people get. Also will there be more information on the Gods in it? I know you have told us about them in other books, but just didn't know if there is more knowledge about them. I NEED knowledge.. makes my magic better :-p...
Love always,
GCS
This has been a point of interest in several different threads now, and to say it's piqued my interest is an understatement.
As for the ToHS book I´d have to agree with Nived. It would be nice with some more detail on the Thorn Knights. Exactly how they are organized (ranks, schools, secret societies within the order and so forth), and what makes them worthy opponents (do they make extensive use of necromancy, are they battle-oriented or are they simply good at divining...? or what´s the deal?). That would be extremely interesting for a hardcore KoN fan like me :D
And of course some guidelines on how to design/run a test...for some reason I suck at designing those tests.
Ravenmantle
Originally posted by Ravenmantle
I give up...keep up the good bickering! It´s such good reading...
As for the ToHS book I´d have to agree with Nived. It would be nice with some more detail on the Thorn Knights. Exactly how they are organized (ranks, schools, secret societies within the order and so forth), and what makes them worthy opponents (do they make extensive use of necromancy, are they battle-oriented or are they simply good at divining...? or what´s the deal?). That would be extremely interesting for a hardcore KoN fan like me :D
And of course some guidelines on how to design/run a test...for some reason I suck at designing those tests.
Every last one of them is a Diviner Specialist even if they specialize in some other school. I'd say they're darn good Diviners. They most likely knew the WoHS were coming and set an ambush. That coupled with the fact that they had the power of an army to call on in aid. I wouldn't be surprised if Lord Ariakan killed Justarius himself.
Ravenmantle
Originally posted by Ravenmantle
Of course he did! I guess they don´t really need that much necromantic magic...that´s Skull Knight domain. And battle magic...well if you´re a fine diviner, then you martial branch can set a number of traps even against the mightiest magic-wielding adversary...
Ravenmantle
Knights of the Thorn and other rival spellcasters get coverage only in regards to their relationship to the Wizards of High Sorcery. We have a future product that will deal with the Solamnic and Nerakan Knighthoods in the same detail that we give the orders in Towers.
This book is about the Towers of High Sorcery--not Knightly Orders!
Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
Ravenmantle
Originally posted by jechambers
We have a future product that will deal with the Solamnic and Nerakan Knighthoods in the same detail that we give the orders in Towers.
And the Legion of Steel, right? It'd be neat to see the Ergothian Cavaliers and the Divine Hammer in there too. That'd pretty much cover all the knightly orders on Ansalon throughout its history.
Originally posted by Devant
Every last one of them is a Diviner Specialist
Umm, actually most Thorn Knights are sorcerers, which don't "technically" specialize in the same game mechanical way that wizards do. But they do focus on divination, I'll agree with that. I've heard that the book should be in stores at the end of August...But don't hold me or SP to that!
Originally posted by raistlinrox
Umm, actually most Thorn Knights are sorcerers, which don't "technically" specialize in the same game mechanical way that wizards do.
Well, aren't they're talking about before the Second Cataclysm...so they'd all be wizards (since sorcerer is not a viable class option at that point for any Children of the Stars races.)
Originally posted by Brimstone
Well, aren't they're talking about before the Second Cataclysm...so they'd all be wizards (since sorcerer is not a viable class option at that point for any Children of the Stars races.)
Can you please explain what you mean by the above post. I am not following at all.
Originally posted by raistlinrox
I didn't see anywhere it said they were talking about the 4th age, if they were then I'm sorry I missed the reference.
I don't think they were.
However, all Thorn Knights gain the benefits of being a divination specialist, whether they're wizards or sorcerers. They also cast all divination spells at +1 caster level, so they're really pretty good at it.
Cheers,
Cam
Originally posted by Cam Banks
I don't think they were.
Sorry...my mistake. I thought they were talking about the 4th Age somewhere up above...discussing the attack the WoHS made on Storm's Keep (specifically the Grey Tower...or whatever it was called). I swear I thought I read someone say, "they're all diviners, so they knew it was coming and set traps" or something along those lines...I can't find it now. Maybe it was on a different thread?
Sorry for the confusion, Raistlinrox.
Ravenmantle
Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
Was it ever revealed how much that assault on Storm's Keep actually hurt the Conclave?
Yeah...have you not read Dragons of Summer Flame? It's in that book.
I gotta read that book again...it´s been too long.
Originally posted by Brimstone
I'm curious though...is the border itself the same only smaller (meaning it still has the stylelized "stone" inscribed celtic knots with the torn parchment sitting on top) or is it like the DLDMS and the KoD with just the celtic knot border with no extra little torn parchment or stone flare? Just wondering.
My guess is that the slimmer border is the same "slimmer border" that they used in Key of Destiny.
Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
I think that LOI used those little smiley things to show his excitement in regards to this product being released. In a non-verbal form of communication we are dependant upon these little icons to show emotion for us. I dont think he did anything wrong
Exactly.
Don't worry about it Amaron Blackthorn I'll just report him. On with the conversation.
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Onto the subject before I get into trouble again!
Anyway, the book I think will be beyond what we are expecting. I just wish it were out now!
LOI, I think you are a nice guy and I dont like all the smack you have been getting!
Not to worry, WizO_Drake handled the situation accordingly. We were discussing the Tower of High Sorcery accessory and its goodies were we not ?
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Originally posted by LordofIllusions
Not to worry, WizO_Drake handled the situation accordingly. We were discussing the Tower of High Sorcery accessory and its goodies were we not ?
No, this topic has long-since been derailed by the discussion of other books, gripes, and the usual tail-end of conversation which comes about when folks have said all they have to say about something and are just shooting the breeze. The last ToHS-specific post was about 18 posts ago.
Cheers,
Cam
Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
Have there been any new previews released?
I have not seen any. This preview(#5) was released last week correct ? If so, we should be seeing a preview sometime soon.
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Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
Have there been any new previews released?
[Edit: Double post]
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Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
Maybe they will give us some information on the different organizations that have had contact with the Wizards of High Sorcery.
I actually want to see the other PrC's that are in the ToHS supplement. I have no doubt that they will be as good, if not better, as the Renegade Hunter PrC.
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