All I see forsee is trouble when and if the players get their hands on this.
Originally posted by Sysane
I haven't got this far with KoD but does anyone see and issue with Blade of Betrayal being in the party's hands?
All I see forsee is trouble when and if the players get their hands on this.
Mine don't have it.
They have the shard of light though. The party's central fighter, Katja, has been using it instead of her greatsword in many engagements, though she's noticed that undead are probably the best targets.
I have no idea what they're going to do with the item at the very end of the adventure. The only one of them that's lawful good is Kiro, the wizard, and he's not exactly suited for it. I'm probably going to be changing the end significantly anyway, so perhaps that specific item won't be present.
Cheers,
Cam
Originally posted by Sysane
I haven't got this far with KoD but does anyone see and issue with Blade of Betrayal being in the party's hands?
All I see forsee is trouble when and if the players get their hands on this.
I am actually banking on one of my players picking up the Blade of Betrayal which will help fuel one of my nefarious side hooks; one of the many hooks I have planted within my ongoing campaign. The group rogue has been claiming that he wanted a magical dagger so I am going to make sure that he finds exactly what he is looking for.
As soon as I saw that the Blade of Betrayal was an intelligient evil weapon the gears started to turn.
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Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
WOW, Two artifacts in one module?
The Dragonlance is also in the Key of Destiny module.
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Originally posted by Sysane
Its not so much as an artifact than it is an intellegent weapon that will no doubt warp one the players to prefrom evil acts.
Yup. Stuff like this I can work with. That one weapon just created another adventure for my group.
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Last session broke as they reached the plateu with the Shattered Temple, next game they head in. I look forward to giving the party rogue the Blade of Betrayal... if he lives that long anyway.
Um... 14? That's not very high. I can get that 70% of the time. At 4th level. Iron Will is your friend (also gets you access to Reserves of Strength, the coolest feat ever).
Base Will Save: +4 (Lvl 4 Wizard)
Iron Will: +2
Wisdom Bonus: +2
Total Will Save: +8
I need to roll a 6.
Doesn't seem that hard.
Now, for a low Wis Barbarian or Rogue, this is a totally different story. Then again, I think that's the point.
-TRRW
Um... 14? That's not very high. I can get that 70% of the time. At 4th level. Iron Will is your friend (also gets you access to Reserves of Strength, the coolest feat ever).
And you know how many times characters actually take those feats? Almost 0% of the time ;)
Originally posted by Sysane
And you know how many times characters actually take those feats? Almost 0% of the time ;)
If you're heading for the wizard of High Sorcery prestige class, you don't have the spare feats for Iron Will and Reserves of Strength, at least at lower levels. You'll be taking a metamagic or item creation feat and Spell Focus, which eats up your first and third level feats, or your two first level feats if you're human. It's often a smart move to pick up Spellcasting Prodigy or Eschew Materials, although Spellcasting Prodigy doesn't really kick in until higher levels (it no longer grants a bonus to save DCs for spells, per the latest revision in Players Guide to Faerun). And honestly, with a class like wizard or cleric, Iron Will is not high on the list because they already have a good Will save.
But that said, DC 14 is not really a big deal. DC 24? That's a big deal.
Cheers,
Cam
Originally posted by Sysane
DC14 is tough when the party is low level. I estimate the party should be around 4th level when they encounter the Blade. Their saves, especially will, won't be that great.
That really isn't that much worse odds than a lot of the things they're going to have to deal with at that level. My players only really get worried when the save DCs are 16+.
Cheers,
Cam
Originally posted by Cam Banks
Spellcasting Prodigy doesn't really kick in until higher levels (it no longer grants a bonus to save DCs for spells, per the latest revision in Players Guide to Faerun).[/b]
I still use Spellcaster Prodigy as written in the DLCS. We aren't playing in FR, so whatever they do with their feats affects only their setting according to me.
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Originally posted by LordofIllusions
One of my players wants to use the Invisible Blade PrC from the Complete Warrior accessory. Does anyone see problems using this PrC in a Dragonlance campaign ?
Nope, should be just fine. If it has any spellcasting abilities (I don't believe it does), those need to be explained, but I think it's otherwise a good PrC.
By the way, although using italics is cool for names of products, you don't need to use them for the names of prestige classes and for emphasis. ;)
Cheers,
Cam
Originally posted by Cam Banks
Nope, should be just fine. If it has any spellcasting abilities (I don't believe it does), those need to be explained, but I think it's otherwise a good PrC.
Thanks for the information.
By the way, although using italics is cool for names of products, you don't need to use them for the names of prestige classes and for emphasis. ;)
Taking over the nitpicking for a certain poster eh ? Are we going to start this again ? Because if so I will just click the report post button now and get it over and done with.~~~
Originally posted by LordofIllusions
Taking over the nitpicking for a certain poster eh ? Are we going to start this again ? Because if so I will just click the report post button now and get it over and done with.
It's not a nitpick, it's a friendly suggestion on how you might make your posts easier to read and understand. Forum etiquette is never a bad thing. If you think this is a personal attack, you can go ahead and report me for it, but it isn't. Your choice.
Cheers,
Cam
Originally posted by Ashaman Nash
LoI, please don't make yourself look like an oaf. I mean, like any more than you have in the past.
The above qualifies as a personal insult and has nothing to do with the Key of Destiny module. It would have been better to mind your own business.
*Clicks report post button*
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This, contrary to popular belief, is the internet. This is not a grammar school playground. Yes, we have moderators, but they are like the police. They are not hall monitors. Go to them for *real* problems, not things like "OMG he maed fun of me".
Your posts are just as insulting as everyone else's, LoI. You just put them under a thin coat of italics.
So please, don't jib people if you can't be jibbed back.
Also, one more "ur off topic" post, and I'll be seriously peeved.
How does the following have anything to do with KoD?
Taking over the nitpicking for a certain poster eh ? Are we going to start this again ? Because if so I will just click the report post button now and get it over and done with.
If you're going to freak out about people staying on topic, STAY ON TOPIC YOURSELF!
And you don't need to tell everyone when you go on one of your little tattle tail rampages. We don't care. We really don't. So stop Amaron Blackthorning up your post count and do something constructive.
No offense intended to Amaron Blacktorn in comparing LoI to you. At least A.B. doesn't act like a 5 year old with a new 'puter.
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The Blade of Betrayal is supposed to be a challenge to control. My money is on Christopher planning to have the weak willed Rogue wielding it, mostly because they always want the "shiny daggers".
I blame the schools. Them are some bad roaches.
-TRRW
Originally posted by TheRedRobedWizard
What's with all this childish behavior as of late? I mean, come on. Reporting every post that's even remotely off topic or insulting will get us nowhere.
This, contrary to popular belief, is the internet. This is not a grammar school playground. Yes, we have moderators, but they are like the police. They are not hall monitors. Go to them for *real* problems, not things like "OMG he maed fun of me".
Your posts are just as insulting as everyone else's, LoI. You just put them under a thin coat of italics.
So please, don't jib people if you can't be jibbed back.
Also, one more "ur off topic" post, and I'll be seriously peeved.
How does the following have anything to do with KoD?
If you're going to freak out about people staying on topic, STAY ON TOPIC YOURSELF!
And you don't need to tell everyone when you go on one of your little tattle tail rampages. We don't care. We really don't. So stop Amaron Blackthorning up your post count and do something constructive.
No offense intended to Amaron Blacktorn in comparing LoI to you. At least A.B. doesn't act like a 5 year old with a new 'puter.
What the
is this(And they wonder why the Dragonlance boards are on the DL in comparison to the other boards ) ?!!! I find myself wondering how like this is allowed to even get through the so called CoC. I'll send this and Ashaman's post to the RPG boards lead and see what gets done about it. ~~~
*click*
--Drake