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| #1zombiegleemaxJul 29, 2004 15:24:59 | So, a quick question, which may not have an official answer: Do the various City-States have flags or symbols associated with them? I was asked this recently by one player, simply because his character is a Mul, and has various arena tattoos, and he wants to work the symbol of Tyr into his tattoos. But I have no idea what it would be. I mean, Urik is a little obvious (Lion). But outside of that, searching through the official literature has netted nothing. Ideas? |
| #2korvarJul 29, 2004 16:58:26 | As I recall Tyr's symbol is either Kalak's face or a star. |
| #3zombiegleemaxJul 29, 2004 17:04:14 | Hmm. See, I'm looking for something post-Kalak. Maybe a spear? ;) |
| #4PennarinJul 29, 2004 17:07:56 | All the info you seek can be found in City-State of Tyr, Veiled Alliance and probably City-State of Draj while you're at it. |
| #5pringlesJul 29, 2004 19:44:07 | Here the one I use i took form various source (I have all the book in pdf format) Tyr=a silver star on black Nibenay= a Cilops Urik= a Lion (Yellow on black) Raam= Brahan, the god of Raam (its a men with four arm and a sword in each, Raam is India culture) Draj= a Kluzd (Draj is surrounded by mud flat, and the Kluzd is inspire by Aztec culture, wich is the same from Draj) Gulg= I dont remember. I think its a big agafari tree Balic= an ancient Greek helmet with feather on it (Balic is Greek) |
| #6KamelionJul 30, 2004 2:30:20 | I got the following from Veiled Alliance: Tyr - Formerly Kalak's profile; currently undecided. (However, I am sure I recall reading something about an emblem for Tyr that represented the iron mines - anyone remember where this is?) Balic - Sun and sheaves of grain (during peacetime) or sword and shield (during war) Draj - Feathered serpent, smoking mirror, jaguar and other ferocious creatures. Gulg - The hegbo (a large lizard regarded as a loyal guardian of its young); also many abstract symbols. Nibenay - Many monsters, both real and imagined; highly conventionalised representations of nobles; the sorcerer-king and various nats; all integrated in common folklore. Raam - Abalach-Re's face; Badna. Urik - Hamanu's face; Hamanu in battle dress or surrounded by red fire etc. |
| #7zombiegleemaxJul 30, 2004 7:12:10 | I use to use " /\/\/\ " for tyr representing the mountains it sits next too. the point in the middle was higher, and it all connected, just puter type. I had to keep it simple because I incorparated a type of burn tatoo that was like an elevated scar. Lost all of my old made up info. If you get into it,(unless it is printed somewere) Specifiy locations of were verious tats are. |
| #8zombiegleemaxAug 16, 2004 11:55:16 | I was wondering about symbols too myself... So what do Hamanu/Kalak/Abalach-Re look like, if their symbols are their faces? Mark. |
| #9zombiegleemaxAug 31, 2004 8:09:11 | Tyr=a silver star on black Can anyone here say wich are the cultures that inspired each city? Till know I only knew about the aztec culture inspired Draj's. |
| #10nytcrawlrAug 31, 2004 8:13:35 | Can anyone here say wich are the cultures that inspired each city? Till know I only knew about the aztec culture inspired Draj's. The list you had above looks about right. Might be something to add to the Q&A since there isn't an official answer to this. |
| #11zombiegleemaxAug 31, 2004 8:20:55 | Might be something to add to the Q&A since there isn't an official answer to this. I has this question on the Q&A. It's the one I am most interested in, in fact. As far as the cultures for the cities go, I have most, although some are not confirmed:
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| #12nytcrawlrAug 31, 2004 8:26:13 |
I see more Indian influence than anything else.
I would say a mixture of a few things, one of them being Egyptian with all the paintings on the buildings and the dance and such. Probably some Indian in there as well. |
| #13zombiegleemaxAug 31, 2004 8:31:57 | I would say a mixture of a few things, one of them being Egyptian with all the paintings on the buildings and the dance and such. Probably some Indian in there as well. Nibenay's obsession with carvings has always reminded me of hindu temples. Just by looking at some pictures one can tell that they really liked to decorate their religious sites. I'll have to look at Raam a little more. I recently was able to buy some more DS products, so I'll see what I can find there. |
| #14zombiegleemaxAug 31, 2004 8:41:20 | I would say a mixture of a few things, one of them being Egyptian with all the paintings on the buildings and the dance and such. Probably some Indian in there as well. I thought Tyr had an egyptian flavor... |
| #15zombiegleemaxAug 31, 2004 8:44:22 | I thought Tyr had an egyptian flavor... I would have expected Kalak to be treated more like a God-King. Most of the original books speak of Kalak only as a tyrant, which does not feel compatibale with how egyptians saw their rulers. I forget.... Was Kalak's palace shaped as a pyramid? EDIT: Nope. Only the Ziggurat is close to pyramid shape, but not reminiscent of Egypt (I love the maps, Cyrus9a :D) |
| #16zombiegleemaxAug 31, 2004 9:21:38 | To me, Raam looked mostly persian... wich were the elements that denoted the Indian influence you saw Nyt? |
| #17KamelionAug 31, 2004 9:25:49 | There was a thread on this a while back, but we are searchless, so there you go. My take on the cultural inspirations were as follows: Tyr - This one struck me as drawing on the Roman holdings in North Africa and the Levant, mixing ancient European styles of government with Middle-Eastern geography and sociology. Raam - I always got a very strong Indian hit off this one, with the castes, kshatriyas, yogis and saddhus. The architecture also reminded me of ancient Vedic civlilisations, as well as their adherence to a god sporting several arms and faces. Urik - Hammurabi's Ur - I think this one is pretty clear for all to see. Draj - Again, this is pretty clearly derived from some of the bloodier societies of Central and South America. I mean, what else from a place where people are called names like Mixtlacteopacatlhuitanx? Gulg - I'd also agree that this one is derived from central/west African civilisations of the past. There was a very close analysis of Gulg in the other thread on this. Balic - This city always struck me a being closely modelled on ancient Greece, with some overtones of the Roman republic. Where else coule it be with all those olive trees? Nibenay - This seems to me to be a bizarre combination of Angkor/ancient Thai society and architecture (the carvings and the dance), mixed with Michael Moorcock's Melnibone (clearly the inspiration for the name Nibenay). From Melnibone we get the sybaritic, decadent noble houses and the distant, eldritch sorcerer-king. Totally the coolest city on the face of the planet. Less sure about the other two. Saragar seems like some odd combination of Hawaiian-style surf-tribes and THX 1138. Eldaarich kinda reminds me of the less pleasant sides of Myanmar and North Korea, though... |
| #18zombiegleemaxAug 31, 2004 13:37:03 | Tyr - This one struck me as drawing on the Roman holdings in North Africa and the Levant, mixing ancient European styles of government with Middle-Eastern geography and sociology. Exactly what I think except I go with a Romanized or Hellenized Syria. THe ancient city of Tyre is Syrian. I thought Hammurabi was from Uruk? |
| #19zombiegleemaxAug 31, 2004 13:46:33 | Hammurabi was the king of ancient Babylonia. Uruk was one of the city-states of Sumer, which I believe came under control of Babylon. (I'm going to have to go break out my books at home. Now I'm curious :P) Check out this link |