Beyond Countless Doorways - Downloaded from the Wizards Community, all coding removed by Solauren

Beyond Countless Doorways

Post/Author/DateTime Post
#1
zombiegleemax
Jul 31, 2004 8:47:19 I thought you guys might be interested in the table of contents for Malhavoc's new book, Beyond Countless Doorways (written by the old Planescape designers).

Table of Contents

I hope this product will prove to be something that can be integrated into Planescape. Any thoughts on that?
#2
gray_richardson
Jul 31, 2004 10:30:50 Thanks WizO Drake! I am really looking forward to this book. It should be hellacious hootenany of a reunion.

Although it details planes that are not situated on the Great Wheel I think that Planescape mavens could easily adapt the material and squeeze the planes into existing wheel layers. Many of those planes sound like they might make good abyssal layers or divine realms or demiplanes.

If the DM is a little more open minded he might allow for the existence of these planes in their own right, outside the great wheel, maybe accessible from the far outlands beyond the gate towns, or accessible from the plane of shadow.

Anyway the book is sure to be a real treat--full of delightful planar fluff that the Planescapers have been saying they crave. Even if you never use the material in your campaign it is sure to be a good read, full of wonderful ideas.

I can't wait to buy it!
#3
ripvanwormer
Jul 31, 2004 14:52:33 A DM might even choose to integrate the Planescape planes into the Countless Worlds cosmology instead of the other way around. It would still be Planescape even if the mechanics of how the planes interact is a little different.

A note: The Ten Courts of Hell are a variant of what in Planescape was called the Palace of Judgement, though I'm not at all sure they would fit in the Outlands. Still, I'd only use one or the other in the same campaign.
#4
sarig_the_genie
Jul 31, 2004 14:54:44 I'm already working on putting the Eberron planes into the multiverse (:

I preserve the ring, I just add a few planes (and planar pathways, borders and whatnot) but as they're not part of the ring, their gatetowns are either non-existant, or not part of the ring of gatetowns....

But this look good, so I might have to do it all again! ;)

edit: is it just me or does it seem like this book is all fluff? :D
#5
Tevish_Szat
Jul 31, 2004 20:32:04 probably will end up on my shopping list... It looks to be, As Sarig said, all or almost all fluff. even if the planes detailed within don't fit on the wheel, there are still demiplanes, abyssal layers, and deific realms that can stem from the planes described.
#6
zombiegleemax
Jul 31, 2004 20:58:43 It'll fit in the infinate space of the great wheel *somewhere*. Only the most clueless and leather headed believe they have the dark to the great wheels structure and all the weird corners of the universe.

Right now we need more fluff on the planes and fewer prestiges classes. I'm definately going to buy this and expect I'll like it more than the most recent planar offering.

-Eric Gorman
#7
Shemeska_the_Marauder
Aug 02, 2004 1:05:11 Demiplanes and distinct realms inside the already infinite planes. Won't be a problem at all to fit them in, though I'll probably hold off on overt use of material till I start a new campaign. It'll be great for adaption though, and it looks like it's going to be everything that the WotC planar material has been lacking in 3e by and large.

For once a book not filled with yet more PrCs, stat blocks and crunch. 3e WotC planar material is like peanut butter. It's good but without any flavor/milk you eventually start to have problems swallowing it all.
#8
Tevish_Szat
Aug 02, 2004 1:35:59 nevermind

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Jul 31, 2004 8:47:19	I thought you guys might be interested in the table of contents for Malhavoc's new book, Beyond Countless Doorways (written by the old Planescape designers). Table of Contents I hope this product will prove to be something that can be integrated into Planescape. Any thoughts on that?
#2 gray_richardson Jul 31, 2004 10:30:50	Thanks WizO Drake! I am really looking forward to this book. It should be hellacious hootenany of a reunion. Although it details planes that are not situated on the Great Wheel I think that Planescape mavens could easily adapt the material and squeeze the planes into existing wheel layers. Many of those planes sound like they might make good abyssal layers or divine realms or demiplanes. If the DM is a little more open minded he might allow for the existence of these planes in their own right, outside the great wheel, maybe accessible from the far outlands beyond the gate towns, or accessible from the plane of shadow. Anyway the book is sure to be a real treat--full of delightful planar fluff that the Planescapers have been saying they crave. Even if you never use the material in your campaign it is sure to be a good read, full of wonderful ideas. I can't wait to buy it!
#3 ripvanwormer Jul 31, 2004 14:52:33	A DM might even choose to integrate the Planescape planes into the Countless Worlds cosmology instead of the other way around. It would still be Planescape even if the mechanics of how the planes interact is a little different. A note: The Ten Courts of Hell are a variant of what in Planescape was called the Palace of Judgement, though I'm not at all sure they would fit in the Outlands. Still, I'd only use one or the other in the same campaign.
#4 sarig_the_genie Jul 31, 2004 14:54:44	I'm already working on putting the Eberron planes into the multiverse (: I preserve the ring, I just add a few planes (and planar pathways, borders and whatnot) but as they're not part of the ring, their gatetowns are either non-existant, or not part of the ring of gatetowns.... But this look good, so I might have to do it all again! ;) edit: is it just me or does it seem like this book is all fluff? :D
#5 Tevish_Szat Jul 31, 2004 20:32:04	probably will end up on my shopping list... It looks to be, As Sarig said, all or almost all fluff. even if the planes detailed within don't fit on the wheel, there are still demiplanes, abyssal layers, and deific realms that can stem from the planes described.
#6 zombiegleemax Jul 31, 2004 20:58:43	It'll fit in the infinate space of the great wheel somewhere. Only the most clueless and leather headed believe they have the dark to the great wheels structure and all the weird corners of the universe. Right now we need more fluff on the planes and fewer prestiges classes. I'm definately going to buy this and expect I'll like it more than the most recent planar offering. -Eric Gorman
#7 Shemeska_the_Marauder Aug 02, 2004 1:05:11	Demiplanes and distinct realms inside the already infinite planes. Won't be a problem at all to fit them in, though I'll probably hold off on overt use of material till I start a new campaign. It'll be great for adaption though, and it looks like it's going to be everything that the WotC planar material has been lacking in 3e by and large. For once a book not filled with yet more PrCs, stat blocks and crunch. 3e WotC planar material is like peanut butter. It's good but without any flavor/milk you eventually start to have problems swallowing it all.
#8 Tevish_Szat Aug 02, 2004 1:35:59	nevermind