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#1 zombiegleemax Sep 03, 2004 7:35:34	I'm re-reading the Prism Pentad after a few (well, more than a few) years. In it, we have the Dwarf Caelum who is a Priest of the Sun. I thought read somewhere that the Paraelementelas clerics where up to no good, yet Caelum is not an evil dwarf nor is his son (at least as I remeber it). Any explanations for this discrepancy? Or is my mind finally getting addled? :D
#2 the_peacebringer Sep 03, 2004 8:58:39	Maybe it's inconsistency. Then again nothing says that paraelemental clerics have to be evil. They are just working for their element. In Kled, there are no roofs on the dwarven huts to allow the sun in (they worship the sun). The problem is when elemental meets paraelemental. For example, a priest of earth would try to save a forest for obvious reasons while a sun cleric would seek to destroy it in order to allow the sun's rays to reach the ground. Note: In the IT, Gulg's sun clerics are actually fire clerics (as far as their stats go). PB
#3 Sysane Sep 03, 2004 9:10:25	I'm not a subscriber to Paraelementals clerics being all evil and up to all types of no good. I view them more along the lines that they worship a specific paraelement out of practicality. I mean if a character was raised near the silt sea he would more likely work with the element as opposed to against it.
#4 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Sep 03, 2004 11:52:45	The Paraelements aren't, in my book, evil. And Clerics can be of any alignment. However, I do usually stress that Elemental Clerics lean towards Law (as their patron element is attempting to restore the balance of nature), while the Paraelemental Clerics lean towards chaos (as their patron paraelement is effectively attmempting to destroy the balance of nature for their own personal growth).
#5 zombiegleemax Sep 03, 2004 13:11:58	He is actually a fire cleric. The book was written before they came up with the idea of paraelemental clerics. They just made him a sun cleric instead of a plain fire cleric to give him some flavor.
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 03, 2004 19:52:43	The Paraelements aren't, in my book, evil. And Clerics can be of any alignment. However, I do usually stress that Elemental Clerics lean towards Law (as their patron element is attempting to restore the balance of nature), while the Paraelemental Clerics lean towards chaos (as their patron paraelement is effectively attmempting to destroy the balance of nature for their own personal growth). Two thumbs up Xlorep!
#7 jaanos Sep 03, 2004 20:20:28	Plus another two. That's a the best description of the differences between the two types of clerics on athas i've ever seen, gets my vote to being added to the flavour text in class descriptions. Two thumbs up Xlorep!
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 07, 2004 1:59:20	The Air, Earth, Fire and Water sourcebook allows Sun Clerics and has the sun domain (or sphere by old rules). Like all clerics, can be any alignment. I think the tiara the sun cleric is wearing looks pretty goofy, and I sure wouldn't give it to any of my characters. And as for sun wizards, I wouldn't allow characters to run one. In the supplement Beyond the Prism Pentad, it states that the circumstances surrounding Sadira's transformation were unique and cannot be duplicated.
#9 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Sep 07, 2004 12:41:22	The Air, Earth, Fire and Water sourcebook allows Sun Clerics and has the sun domain (or sphere by old rules). Like all clerics, can be any alignment. I think the tiara the sun cleric is wearing looks pretty goofy, and I sure wouldn't give it to any of my characters. Or you can check out the Athas.org conversion, which has a plethora of Athasian-specific domains for clerics to choose from. Personally, I don't believe that Clerics should have the ability to raise, control or rebuke undead, so I have all clerics, regardless of alignment, be able to turn/destroy undead (because undead are unnatural beings, and Athasian clerics are by their very nature, champions of nature). I also don't allow the Dance of Decay domain from the Athas.org core rules in my campaigns. Templars, I have basically be the divine spellcasting class that rebukes, controls and animates undead, but only if their Sorcerer-King is evil (Templars of Oronis only turn/destroy undead). And as for sun wizards, I wouldn't allow characters to run one. In the supplement Beyond the Prism Pentad, it states that the circumstances surrounding Sadira's transformation were unique and cannot be duplicated. Well, of course. Anything else would just be silly.
#10 zombiegleemax Sep 07, 2004 13:56:58	And as for sun wizards, I wouldn't allow characters to run one. In the supplement Beyond the Prism Pentad, it states that the circumstances surrounding Sadira's transformation were unique and cannot be duplicated. Now I think if Rajaat wanted to he could make another Sun Wizard.
#11 dracochapel Sep 08, 2004 2:27:32	Now I think if Rajaat wanted to he could make another Sun Wizard. Sure he could. But why would he want to. Either Sadira foiled his plans and he doesnt want to create another one ( i mean every super-duper person he creates ends up stabbing him in the back) or its all part of his Bond villain master plan and shes working for him anyway.