So...are you asking for a synopsis of Ashes and Amber? It tells you what she's been up to from where the WoS books ended to about a year later.
I wouldn't mind a synopsis of Ashes & Amber. I doubt I'll even get the chance to read it. I'd put the synopsis under a SPOLIERS warning in its own thread though if you intend to do so.
So please take that into account oh mighty moderator, I'm honestly just curious about what I should do with the character to keep her "in canon"
[thread=185204]Novels Rules.[/thread]
Just asked for a synopsis not anyones personal view or how well written the story was. Just the facts.
But for now you can simply work from the jacket of the book. Mina is now a cleric of Chemosh, not Takhisis and is working towards his goals to expand his following so that he can win leadership of the Gods of Darkness.
and to Mr. Novel Rules over there, i don't see a wizo appelation in your name, so take your link back to the FR forum where it belongs =)
Please no "read the novel" replies either. If it can't be posted, it can't be posted but I don't see how in doing so in a neutral light or tone will break any rules of conduct in regards to discussing novels.
1) Roll over die
2) Abandon their cleric class levels (a supreme waste) or become a mystic
3) Find another god.
Given the way Mina's entire life has been influenced by death (her parents, Goldmoon, Takhisis...), it's not such a stretch to imagine that she might find an affinity for a god with an interest in that area. Indeed, Takhisis was usurping much of Chemosh's portfolio during the early part of the Fifth Age. So, Mina has a LOT of experience with undead, spirits and things like that.
and to Mr. Novel Rules over there, i don't see a wizo appelation in your name, so take your link back to the FR forum where it belongs =)
According to WizO Sith, the novels rules apply to all boards. After all, why should the DL fans be allowed to discuss novels when the FR and Magic fans cannot?
And you don't have to be a WizO to help enforce the rules of the board.
According to WizO Sith, the novels rules apply to all boards. After all, why should the DL fans be allowed to discuss novels when the FR and Magic fans cannot?
And you don't have to be a WizO to help enforce the rules of the board.
Granted you're not supposed to talk about the content of novels, but when it is the very content of the novels that affects the outcome of the entire gaming world I think some leeway is granted. DL is a novel driven game, the events that happen in the DL novel affects the entire DL world so to not discuss these events, in the context they were written in, would be just silly as no one would know why certain things are the way they are. It's not like FR and other system, where a characters actions affect only a relavtively small area, in DL they affect the entire continent of Ansalon, and sometimes the enitre world of Kynn. Not only that but I think the rule was set up to keep authors/writers/contributors form being blasted by fans and non-fans. Something that doesn't happen very often here, and never really has.
According to WizO Sith, the novels rules apply to all boards. After all, why should the DL fans be allowed to discuss novels when the FR and Magic fans cannot?
And you don't have to be a WizO to help enforce the rules of the board.
No, but when you're talking about a character who's last story arc affects the games and novels for the rest of DL's existance, you can't avoid talking about the novels.
So, I'll say it again: the banning of novel discussion is one of the dumbest moves that has been made on these forums.
Novels and games aren't the arms and legs of DL - you can't cut one off and only talk about the other.
If the WizO's don't like it, then this forum shouldn't exist, period. Novel discussion is unavoidable.
On subject... Mina is currently assissting Chemosh in his ventures to become a more powerful God, she is the High Cleric of Chemosh, and as stated earlier of very loose morals. She is also still evil. I liked the mentioning above how Death has always played a major part in Mina's life, which may be why she is all about the God of death. I never really thought of it that way, and quiet honestly agree with you.
GCS
My only question is where is True_Blue to yell at everyone about attacking someone? Even though the guy is wrong, we need the novels on these boards.
On subject... Mina is currently assissting Chemosh in his ventures to become a more powerful God, she is the High Cleric of Chemosh, and as stated earlier of very loose morals. She is also still evil. I liked the mentioning above how Death has always played a major part in Mina's life, which may be why she is all about the God of death. I never really thought of it that way, and quiet honestly agree with you.
GCS
I find it strange that Mina would so quickly adopt another god. She was absolutely devote and in love with her One God. Do they go into how and why she would throw in with Chemosh?
I find it strange that Mina would so quickly adopt another god. She was absolutely devote and in love with her One God. Do they go into how and why she would throw in with Chemosh?
To answer both of your questions... she is basically suduced, as i believe is said aon the cover. It seemed rather rushed to me, givin how attached to The One God she was, and just how quick she was suduced... as Tal said not only did she fail her Will saves I belive she botched them, quite badly. Oh and to go with the loose morals... lets just say Mina becomes crystaned, and it happens again, and again, and again, and well you get the point.... its not with just one person either, hence the loose morals.
GCS
To answer both of your questions... she is basically suduced, as i believe is said aon the cover. It seemed rather rushed to me, givin how attached to The One God she was, and just how quick she was suduced... as Tal said not only did she fail her Will saves I belive she botched them, quite badly. Oh and to go with the loose morals... lets just say Mina becomes crystaned, and it happens again, and again, and again, and well you get the point.... its not with just one person either, hence the loose morals.
GCS
Thanks. That makes it a little more clearer. Do they get into why she is all of a sudden a hizho?
May I ask?
How can I put this delicately........?
The woman is a wh*re!!!!
If you can't guess from looking at the cover, then read the book. People with an interesting in role-playing her in-depth may need to consider getting a copy of the Book of Erotic Fantasy.
Cheers,
Cam
How can I put this delicately........?
The woman is a wh*re!!!!
If you can't guess from looking at the cover, then read the book. People with an interesting in role-playing her in-depth may need to consider getting a copy of the Book of Erotic Fantasy.
I find that odd about her. What drove Mina to become like this?
Orcus being also a divine being and descending on her in his time of need no doubt probably offered her also many of the same feelings that the One God did after using simple very physical means to establish he was able to provide her with the joy she only felt from the one god.
Thus, Chemosh is using some very old fashioned but accurate psychology on dealing with sheltered individuals and exploiting them. It's a known tool of cults actually.
I find it strange that Mina would so quickly adopt another god. She was absolutely devote and in love with her One God. Do they go into how and why she would throw in with Chemosh?
There can really be no question of how and why when one reads Amber and Ashes I think. Margaret does both a decent job of explaining the change, and making it believable.
Margaret does a wonderful in relating Mina's shift from the ONE GOD to Chemosh. Has anyone else made the connection with what she now helps to spawn and her name MINA?
I doubt that is intentional. Really...these new creatures are not so much
(SPOILER SPACE).
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Vampires as they are the Dragonlance equivilent of the vrykyl. Very cool indead...I mean indeed.
I find that odd about her. What drove Mina to become like this?
It's always the repressed ones....
Mina began her career as Joan of Arc - sacred virgin. All her wants and desires sublimated to the will of the One God (Takhisis). But the supposedly supreme One God was not only brought low, she was killed. That has to be utterly crushing to a Righteous Zealot whose entire philosophy revolved around the primacy of her deity.
So I suppose that Mina is going through a belated adolesence. Chemosh restores her clerical powers and sense of self-esteem, and now she's exploring her own needs (emotional and physical) for perhaps the first time.
what are vkryl?
Is your name JB? ;)
Close...it's "Vrykyl." And basically they are undead creatures created by Dagnarus (from Sovereign Stone) as the anti-thesis to the ultimate champions of good, the Dominion Lords. And, they steal the life force from their victims ("feeding" basically) to remain "alive" using a Bone knife. It's really disturbing and disgusting...as the knife must be made from the Vrykyl's own bones.
Here's more info: http://www.sovstone.com/guide/category.php?id=27
Is your name JB? ;)
Close...it's "Vrykyl." And basically they are undead creatures created by Dagnarus (from Sovereign Stone) as the anti-thesis to the ultimate champions of good, the Dominion Lords. And, they steal the life force from their victims ("feeding" basically) to remain "alive" using a Bone knife. It's really disturbing and disgusting...as the knife must be made from the Vrykyl's own bones.
Here's more info: http://www.sovstone.com/guide/category.php?id=27
Two words.... Ouch and Eww
As for everyone else who wants to know more as to why she did it, I really suggest reading the book, as we can't post too much here for fear of the copyright infringment, not to mention just plain spoiling. All I can say is Maragret does a decent job of showing, though I still feel it happens a little too fast. But then again maybe it is different for her as she is used to having Gods around her, to be with out one must be a huge void.
GCS
This thread will be locked. Please do not restart it or other threads dealing with Gmae-related fiction.
*Click*