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Blue dragons in Blue Dragonarmy?

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#1
wolffenjugend_dup
Sep 23, 2004 13:25:42 So does the Blue Wing only have 8 dragons in it? Or is that Kitiara's personal vanguard?

How many dragons are we looking at in an average dragonarmy? Less than a dozen, under one hundred, several hundred, more?

From reading the Blue Dragonarmy I'm getting the impression that the total number of chromatic dragons active during the war could have been less than 100. Does that sound right?
#2
zombiegleemax
Sep 23, 2004 13:29:45 There were at least 3 mentioned in the books that I can recall. Skie, and the two that got killed at the High Clerists Tower. I am not sure if those include the ones that Skie saw bathing in the pools before the siege of Tarsis.
#3
wolffenjugend_dup
Sep 23, 2004 13:44:40 No, I'm talking about joe-average dragons - not the named ones. There were many unnamed dragons in the books (whole flights of the them IIRC). It seems like it's being trimmed down to a handful.
#4
zombiegleemax
Sep 23, 2004 13:45:41 As far as I can remember Skie is the only dragon that is nmaed in the Blude Dragon Army.
#5
cam_banks
Sep 23, 2004 14:04:26
No, I'm talking about joe-average dragons - not the named ones. There were many unnamed dragons in the books (whole flights of the them IIRC). It seems like it's being trimmed down to a handful.

I think most people vastly overestimate the number of dragons that were active. When the Blue Dragonarmy is activated as the Blue Wing, it has around 8 blue dragons (plus any used as mounts for highmasters etc). Of course, there are a lot more, but they're not considered in those numbers, either because they are reserve, involved in special missions, etc.

Cheers,
Cam
#6
zombiegleemax
Sep 23, 2004 16:09:04 So the Blue Dragon Army really didnt have all that many dragons attatched to it??
#7
sephzero
Sep 23, 2004 16:24:38 More then likely from this example, there probably were not too many dragons on active duty for any of the dragon armies. This probably isn't counting those that are stuck on guard duties, but it seems fairly reasonable.

If the dragonarmy really did have a huge flights of dragons, then taking over areas would have been a whole lot easier. That and its easier on the whole war campaign angle. Trying to keep that many dragons not only together, but under control.
#8
zombiegleemax
Sep 23, 2004 17:17:55 That changes with the Summer of Chaos though doesnt it? It seems like the dragons on both sides came out en masse to fight each other and then later Chaos, (well those that survived any who)
#9
wolffenjugend_dup
Sep 23, 2004 19:46:27 Wow. 8 dragons. That's a letdown. Doesn't really evoke images of horror when the dragons in the "dragonarmy" can be counted on two hands...
#10
sephzero
Sep 23, 2004 19:52:13 Well, considering that there are five army sections for each of the color. Even with only 8 per an army, that is a total of 40 dragons that are in active duty. That is quite a number to have working for you considering the nature of the chromatic dragons.

Besides, if things get hairy it is likely that all the remaining lazier dragons can be called out to fill in the ranks if needed. Though for the most part, I doubt the dragons prefer too much action in getting their hands dirty in winning the war. The bulk of the fighting it still done by the ground troups anyway so massive dragon numbers isn't really necessary.
#11
cam_banks
Sep 23, 2004 22:19:51
Wow. 8 dragons. That's a letdown. Doesn't really evoke images of horror when the dragons in the "dragonarmy" can be counted on two hands...

Three were plenty enough scary to the defenders of the High Clerist Tower. Think of the dragons as specialized equipment, like gunships were in the Vietnam conflict. Not a lot of them, but they completely change the battle once they're introduced. Until the other side gets something like it...

Cheers,
Cam
#12
zombiegleemax
Sep 24, 2004 23:11:56
More then likely from this example, there probably were not too many dragons on active duty for any of the dragon armies. This probably isn't counting those that are stuck on guard duties, but it seems fairly reasonable.

If the dragonarmy really did have a huge flights of dragons, then taking over areas would have been a whole lot easier. That and its easier on the whole war campaign angle. Trying to keep that many dragons not only together, but under control.

The thing about the War of the Lance is that the Queen of Darkness herself was there to direct them in a certain way, which according to Raistlin is the only times Dragons are capable of coordinated actions. The Queen of Darkness was in a sense on Krynn during the War of the Lance, and as such, all the dragons of darkness had no choice at times but to acquience whatever they felt about the other dragons and work with her.

I recall in one of the "DRAGONS" books, that it was showing an exchange between Ariakas and his Red Dragon mount (can't remember the name). At one point, Ariakas demands the Dragon Obey in the name of Takhisis. It menitons how in the back of the Red Dragon normally would have flayed Ariakas for speaking to him that way, but even this mighty red dragon, which I believe was one of the oldest ones out there, realized he had no choice but to obey, and the Dragon remembered how Takhsiis had commanded him to serve Ariakas and how the Dragon had no choice in the matter.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 wolffenjugend_dup Sep 23, 2004 13:25:42	So does the Blue Wing only have 8 dragons in it? Or is that Kitiara's personal vanguard? How many dragons are we looking at in an average dragonarmy? Less than a dozen, under one hundred, several hundred, more? From reading the Blue Dragonarmy I'm getting the impression that the total number of chromatic dragons active during the war could have been less than 100. Does that sound right?
#2 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2004 13:29:45	There were at least 3 mentioned in the books that I can recall. Skie, and the two that got killed at the High Clerists Tower. I am not sure if those include the ones that Skie saw bathing in the pools before the siege of Tarsis.
#3 wolffenjugend_dup Sep 23, 2004 13:44:40	No, I'm talking about joe-average dragons - not the named ones. There were many unnamed dragons in the books (whole flights of the them IIRC). It seems like it's being trimmed down to a handful.
#4 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2004 13:45:41	As far as I can remember Skie is the only dragon that is nmaed in the Blude Dragon Army.
#5 cam_banks Sep 23, 2004 14:04:26	No, I'm talking about joe-average dragons - not the named ones. There were many unnamed dragons in the books (whole flights of the them IIRC). It seems like it's being trimmed down to a handful. I think most people vastly overestimate the number of dragons that were active. When the Blue Dragonarmy is activated as the Blue Wing, it has around 8 blue dragons (plus any used as mounts for highmasters etc). Of course, there are a lot more, but they're not considered in those numbers, either because they are reserve, involved in special missions, etc. Cheers, Cam
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2004 16:09:04	So the Blue Dragon Army really didnt have all that many dragons attatched to it??
#7 sephzero Sep 23, 2004 16:24:38	More then likely from this example, there probably were not too many dragons on active duty for any of the dragon armies. This probably isn't counting those that are stuck on guard duties, but it seems fairly reasonable. If the dragonarmy really did have a huge flights of dragons, then taking over areas would have been a whole lot easier. That and its easier on the whole war campaign angle. Trying to keep that many dragons not only together, but under control.
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2004 17:17:55	That changes with the Summer of Chaos though doesnt it? It seems like the dragons on both sides came out en masse to fight each other and then later Chaos, (well those that survived any who)
#9 wolffenjugend_dup Sep 23, 2004 19:46:27	Wow. 8 dragons. That's a letdown. Doesn't really evoke images of horror when the dragons in the "dragonarmy" can be counted on two hands...
#10 sephzero Sep 23, 2004 19:52:13	Well, considering that there are five army sections for each of the color. Even with only 8 per an army, that is a total of 40 dragons that are in active duty. That is quite a number to have working for you considering the nature of the chromatic dragons. Besides, if things get hairy it is likely that all the remaining lazier dragons can be called out to fill in the ranks if needed. Though for the most part, I doubt the dragons prefer too much action in getting their hands dirty in winning the war. The bulk of the fighting it still done by the ground troups anyway so massive dragon numbers isn't really necessary.
#11 cam_banks Sep 23, 2004 22:19:51	Wow. 8 dragons. That's a letdown. Doesn't really evoke images of horror when the dragons in the "dragonarmy" can be counted on two hands... Three were plenty enough scary to the defenders of the High Clerist Tower. Think of the dragons as specialized equipment, like gunships were in the Vietnam conflict. Not a lot of them, but they completely change the battle once they're introduced. Until the other side gets something like it... Cheers, Cam
#12 zombiegleemax Sep 24, 2004 23:11:56	More then likely from this example, there probably were not too many dragons on active duty for any of the dragon armies. This probably isn't counting those that are stuck on guard duties, but it seems fairly reasonable. If the dragonarmy really did have a huge flights of dragons, then taking over areas would have been a whole lot easier. That and its easier on the whole war campaign angle. Trying to keep that many dragons not only together, but under control. The thing about the War of the Lance is that the Queen of Darkness herself was there to direct them in a certain way, which according to Raistlin is the only times Dragons are capable of coordinated actions. The Queen of Darkness was in a sense on Krynn during the War of the Lance, and as such, all the dragons of darkness had no choice at times but to acquience whatever they felt about the other dragons and work with her. I recall in one of the "DRAGONS" books, that it was showing an exchange between Ariakas and his Red Dragon mount (can't remember the name). At one point, Ariakas demands the Dragon Obey in the name of Takhisis. It menitons how in the back of the Red Dragon normally would have flayed Ariakas for speaking to him that way, but even this mighty red dragon, which I believe was one of the oldest ones out there, realized he had no choice but to obey, and the Dragon remembered how Takhsiis had commanded him to serve Ariakas and how the Dragon had no choice in the matter.