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Solomnic Armor

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#1
jrblasingame
Sep 23, 2004 13:38:24 Is Solomnic armor jsut considered Full Plate now? In 2e it was better than full plate, but I can't find any mention of it in the 3e versions of the Dragonlance rule books. Maybe I missed it, I don't think so, but maybe I did.

Thanks
#2
zombiegleemax
Sep 23, 2004 13:42:01 In the Dragonlance Adventures book it used to special, lower AC and stuff. I liked how the armor had the different orders that the knight had belonged to on it. I am still not sure if this holds true in the new edition of the DLCS. Some of the art in the book about the knights is just terrible.
#3
wolffenjugend_dup
Sep 23, 2004 13:43:05 There were some cool pre-3e variants; check out Dragonlance.com or the Dragonlance Nexus. There was one that granted bonuses to Diplomacy checks or penalties if the people around were hostile to Knights. Otherwise, I think it's pretty much just normal full plate (which kicks butt in and of itself).
#4
zombiegleemax
Sep 23, 2004 13:47:06 There is nothing about it in the War of the Lance sourcebook?
#5
jrblasingame
Sep 23, 2004 15:36:06
There is nothing about it in the War of the Lance sourcebook?

not that I know of, but then again I don't have the book.
#6
zombiegleemax
Sep 23, 2004 16:16:23 A week from tomorrow and then we will all be happy again. I love being happy. Again.
#7
zombiegleemax
Sep 23, 2004 21:32:57 There's nothing I've seen about Solamnic Armor in the WoTL. Of course, you could just make it masterwork armor to start with, reducing armor check penalties and such. Perhaps, have it grant teh person wearing it a +2-+5 inherant or circumstancial bonus on either Diplomacy or Intimidate checks against any non-solamnic.
#8
cam_banks
Sep 23, 2004 22:23:31 It's just plate armor, folks. Not many people could have afforded it, especially not when it's masterwork or (for some knights) magical armor. It looks great, it's created to fit the wearer, and it represents a knight's nobility and courage, etc, but it's just plate armor.

Dragonarmor, on the other hand - that's something special.

Cheers,
Cam
#9
frostdawn
Sep 24, 2004 8:35:20
It's just plate armor, folks. Not many people could have afforded it, especially not when it's masterwork or (for some knights) magical armor. It looks great, it's created to fit the wearer, and it represents a knight's nobility and courage, etc, but it's just plate armor.

Dragonarmor, on the other hand - that's something special.

Cheers,
Cam

That may be so, but up until ToHS, I thought wizard robes were just red, white or black robes. Now we know that they grant an AC bonus, spell bonus, plus spell resistance to the wearer. If simple robes can provide that, than it would be nice if the armor of a Solamnic knight had at least some kind of special trait to differentiate it from regular plate armor (aside from pretty designs on it). Maybe morale bonuses if nothing else, and it confers negative penalties to evil or even neutral aligned wearers. The knights themselves need not imbue the armor with magical properties, even if mundane. The Solamnics are essentially the champions of the gods of good, so perhaps the gods bestow their blessings upon the armor, which is representative of the wearer, and the knight's noble soul. I dunno. Even if this never comes to pass in 3.5 rules, one could always hope. If nothing else, house rules!
#10
iltharanos
Sep 24, 2004 8:48:14 Solamnic armor was considered +1 plate armor, back in the day. A simple enough conversion would be:

Solamnic Armor (nonmagical)
-Type: Heavy
-Cost: invaluable, never sold except on the black market
-Armor bonus: +9
-Maximum dex bonus: +1
-Armor check penalty: -5
-Arcane Spell Failure: 35%
-Speed: 20 ft. (run speed x 3)
-Weight: 50 lbs.
#11
theredrobedwizard
Sep 24, 2004 8:49:10
That may be so, but up until ToHS, I thought wizard robes were just red, white or black robes. Now we know that they grant an AC bonus, spell bonus, plus spell resistance to the wearer.

Um... I think you're confused. Regular wizardly robes grant you the ability to not be naked... that's about it.

The things you're refering to are the renamed (and excedingly rare/highly powerful magical item) Robes of the Archmagi.

Unless I *really* missed something on my readthrough of Towers...

-TRRW

edit: \/\/\/ nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyahnyah, ha ha haha ha ha; beat ya by two seconds, Cam. :P
#12
cam_banks
Sep 24, 2004 8:49:19
That may be so, but up until ToHS, I thought wizard robes were just red, white or black robes. Now we know that they grant an AC bonus, spell bonus, plus spell resistance to the wearer.

Uh.

No they don't. Are you referring to the (highly magical and rare) robes in the Towers of High Sorcery sourcebook? They most certainly aren't supposed to represent the robes worn by every wizard in the Orders.

Cheers,
Cam
#13
zombiegleemax
Sep 24, 2004 8:53:01 When I first read the description of the robes in the ToHS, I thought that these were the robes theat were givine to the newly initiated wizard. Then I read that the robes replace the Robes of the Archmagi in the DMG.
#14
cam_banks
Sep 24, 2004 9:15:58 It should also be noted that individual (and notable) Solamnic knights will almost definitely have their own magical armor in the Solamnic fashion. This more or less means that all knights should have at least masterwork breastplates, half-plate, or full plate, depending on their status and rank, and many of those will have a +1 or better magical enhancement. This allows for variety and personalization, and doesn't in and of itself change the fact that the knights of Solamnia should be the first thing that comes to mind when you look at the description for plate armor in the Player's Handbook.

Cheers,
Cam
#15
jrblasingame
Sep 24, 2004 15:20:12
It's just plate armor, folks. Not many people could have afforded it, especially not when it's masterwork or (for some knights) magical armor. It looks great, it's created to fit the wearer, and it represents a knight's nobility and courage, etc, but it's just plate armor.

Dragonarmor, on the other hand - that's something special.

Cheers,
Cam

Well, up until 3e it was something better than plate armor (and full plate too). That is why I asked if there were any stats on it 3e. I am converting a character (didn't think it was possible with the changes to the knighthood to PrC, but it is just barely allowing me to keep my character relatively unchanged). He has +1 Solomnic Plate which in 2e was equal to a -1 AC (without dex bonous), now if your saying that it was changed in 3e fine, but it was definately more than just plate armor in 2e.

Thanks for the replies ppl.

*Edit: Just read my reply, and it seems a little agressive...sorry about that I don't mean for it to be.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 jrblasingame Sep 23, 2004 13:38:24	Is Solomnic armor jsut considered Full Plate now? In 2e it was better than full plate, but I can't find any mention of it in the 3e versions of the Dragonlance rule books. Maybe I missed it, I don't think so, but maybe I did. Thanks
#2 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2004 13:42:01	In the Dragonlance Adventures book it used to special, lower AC and stuff. I liked how the armor had the different orders that the knight had belonged to on it. I am still not sure if this holds true in the new edition of the DLCS. Some of the art in the book about the knights is just terrible.
#3 wolffenjugend_dup Sep 23, 2004 13:43:05	There were some cool pre-3e variants; check out Dragonlance.com or the Dragonlance Nexus. There was one that granted bonuses to Diplomacy checks or penalties if the people around were hostile to Knights. Otherwise, I think it's pretty much just normal full plate (which kicks butt in and of itself).
#4 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2004 13:47:06	There is nothing about it in the War of the Lance sourcebook?
#5 jrblasingame Sep 23, 2004 15:36:06	There is nothing about it in the War of the Lance sourcebook? not that I know of, but then again I don't have the book.
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2004 16:16:23	A week from tomorrow and then we will all be happy again. I love being happy. Again.
#7 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2004 21:32:57	There's nothing I've seen about Solamnic Armor in the WoTL. Of course, you could just make it masterwork armor to start with, reducing armor check penalties and such. Perhaps, have it grant teh person wearing it a +2-+5 inherant or circumstancial bonus on either Diplomacy or Intimidate checks against any non-solamnic.
#8 cam_banks Sep 23, 2004 22:23:31	It's just plate armor, folks. Not many people could have afforded it, especially not when it's masterwork or (for some knights) magical armor. It looks great, it's created to fit the wearer, and it represents a knight's nobility and courage, etc, but it's just plate armor. Dragonarmor, on the other hand - that's something special. Cheers, Cam
#9 frostdawn Sep 24, 2004 8:35:20	It's just plate armor, folks. Not many people could have afforded it, especially not when it's masterwork or (for some knights) magical armor. It looks great, it's created to fit the wearer, and it represents a knight's nobility and courage, etc, but it's just plate armor. Dragonarmor, on the other hand - that's something special. Cheers, Cam That may be so, but up until ToHS, I thought wizard robes were just red, white or black robes. Now we know that they grant an AC bonus, spell bonus, plus spell resistance to the wearer. If simple robes can provide that, than it would be nice if the armor of a Solamnic knight had at least some kind of special trait to differentiate it from regular plate armor (aside from pretty designs on it). Maybe morale bonuses if nothing else, and it confers negative penalties to evil or even neutral aligned wearers. The knights themselves need not imbue the armor with magical properties, even if mundane. The Solamnics are essentially the champions of the gods of good, so perhaps the gods bestow their blessings upon the armor, which is representative of the wearer, and the knight's noble soul. I dunno. Even if this never comes to pass in 3.5 rules, one could always hope. If nothing else, house rules!
#10 iltharanos Sep 24, 2004 8:48:14	Solamnic armor was considered +1 plate armor, back in the day. A simple enough conversion would be: Solamnic Armor (nonmagical) -Type: Heavy -Cost: invaluable, never sold except on the black market -Armor bonus: +9 -Maximum dex bonus: +1 -Armor check penalty: -5 -Arcane Spell Failure: 35% -Speed: 20 ft. (run speed x 3) -Weight: 50 lbs.
#11 theredrobedwizard Sep 24, 2004 8:49:10	That may be so, but up until ToHS, I thought wizard robes were just red, white or black robes. Now we know that they grant an AC bonus, spell bonus, plus spell resistance to the wearer. Um... I think you're confused. Regular wizardly robes grant you the ability to not be naked... that's about it. The things you're refering to are the renamed (and excedingly rare/highly powerful magical item) Robes of the Archmagi. Unless I *really* missed something on my readthrough of Towers... -TRRW edit: \/\/\/ nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyahnyah, ha ha haha ha ha; beat ya by two seconds, Cam. :P
#12 cam_banks Sep 24, 2004 8:49:19	That may be so, but up until ToHS, I thought wizard robes were just red, white or black robes. Now we know that they grant an AC bonus, spell bonus, plus spell resistance to the wearer. Uh. No they don't. Are you referring to the (highly magical and rare) robes in the Towers of High Sorcery sourcebook? They most certainly aren't supposed to represent the robes worn by every wizard in the Orders. Cheers, Cam
#13 zombiegleemax Sep 24, 2004 8:53:01	When I first read the description of the robes in the ToHS, I thought that these were the robes theat were givine to the newly initiated wizard. Then I read that the robes replace the Robes of the Archmagi in the DMG.
#14 cam_banks Sep 24, 2004 9:15:58	It should also be noted that individual (and notable) Solamnic knights will almost definitely have their own magical armor in the Solamnic fashion. This more or less means that all knights should have at least masterwork breastplates, half-plate, or full plate, depending on their status and rank, and many of those will have a +1 or better magical enhancement. This allows for variety and personalization, and doesn't in and of itself change the fact that the knights of Solamnia should be the first thing that comes to mind when you look at the description for plate armor in the Player's Handbook. Cheers, Cam
#15 jrblasingame Sep 24, 2004 15:20:12	It's just plate armor, folks. Not many people could have afforded it, especially not when it's masterwork or (for some knights) magical armor. It looks great, it's created to fit the wearer, and it represents a knight's nobility and courage, etc, but it's just plate armor. Dragonarmor, on the other hand - that's something special. Cheers, Cam Well, up until 3e it was something better than plate armor (and full plate too). That is why I asked if there were any stats on it 3e. I am converting a character (didn't think it was possible with the changes to the knighthood to PrC, but it is just barely allowing me to keep my character relatively unchanged). He has +1 Solomnic Plate which in 2e was equal to a -1 AC (without dex bonous), now if your saying that it was changed in 3e fine, but it was definately more than just plate armor in 2e. Thanks for the replies ppl. *Edit: Just read my reply, and it seems a little agressive...sorry about that I don't mean for it to be.