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Trees of life

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#1
the_peacebringer
Sep 27, 2004 16:58:02 I was just wondering if trees of life were like in the 2e (give spells to druids and clerics, suck up defiling damage, material & metaphysical life force, etc.)or if things would change in 3.5. I searched for it in old threads but didn't find anything concerning mechanics... or maybe this wasn't relevant enough to become a thread. Well too bad, it is now! :D

PB
#2
Pennarin
Sep 27, 2004 17:05:52 What I recall from discussions is that the concept is being redone in preparation for its inclusion in Secrets of the Dead Lands.
Making trees of life is now an epic creation process, IIRC, and will appear in the same place and time (probably DS3 core) as the epic and advanced beings rules.

As for the flavor of what the tree does - life energy battery, free nature spells,... - it will probably stay unchanged as athas.org is bound to keep the flavor as little changed as possible.
#3
zombiegleemax
Sep 28, 2004 3:29:25 I'd imagine they'd work like the node magic in Forgotten Realms. Adapted for different elements. For example a tree of like created by a fire druid, my have leaves of gold and red and could grant positve elemental spells such as protection from energy(fire).
#4
Pennarin
Sep 28, 2004 9:32:50
For example a tree of like created by a fire druid, my have leaves of gold and red and could grant positve elemental spells such as protection from energy(fire).

Except for the fire druid thing its a good idea, although I suspect all trees will be unviversal in capabilities and not specific, e.g. one tree particularly helpful to arcane spellcasters, another to druids, ...
#5
jihun-nish
Sep 28, 2004 10:02:51
I'd imagine they'd work like the node magic in Forgotten Realms. Adapted for different elements. For example a tree of like created by a fire druid, my have leaves of gold and red and could grant positve elemental spells such as protection from energy(fire).

From what I remember, Trees of Life are a recipient of tremoundous raw power. (usually used by druids. preservers/defilers.) I dont think elementals could do so since their magic is clerical(from the elemental planes themselves)
To put it bluntly, I think Trees of Life were created to produce great amount of raw natural magical energy for wizards(and druids, I guess) because of what the ''art'' could cause to the natural land. Never ment for the elementals. To my point of view, they cant use the ToL.
#6
zombiegleemax
Sep 28, 2004 20:48:10 In 2e, if I remember correctly, Earth and Water clerics were able to create Trees of Life too... For the divine casting (druids and clerics), it's more being closer to earth/nature than being a druid or not.

Arcane magic on the other hand, has nothing to do with nature for the creation process... Probably a long stolen secret.
#7
the_peacebringer
Sep 29, 2004 7:09:45 I believe you're right. I think the trees of life gave advantages to both druids and elemental clerics (certain spells) and both could create them. The only thing they did for wizards was suck up defiler damage.
#8
elonarc
Sep 29, 2004 8:20:29 Only Druids and Wizards could create ToL. It was a high-level wizard spell and a high level spell from the sphere of cosmos. As clerics just had minor access to the sphere of cosmos (only druids had major access), they were not able to create ToL, regardless which elemental type.
#9
elonarc
Sep 29, 2004 10:58:40 [looked it up at home]

Create Tree of Life was a 8th-level Wizard spell and a 6th-level spell of the Sphere of Cosmos.
#10
nytcrawlr
Sep 29, 2004 19:50:10 Here is Elonarc on a bad day! :D

http://img3.exs.cx/img3/3094/102092135864712917.jpg

/me runs
#11
elonarc
Sep 30, 2004 0:45:49 NA WARTE!!!!!!!!! [/runs after Nyt]

PS: The picture is evidently from my secret project "Pokémon of Athas". It is the entry "Pikachu, athasian". And, by the way, :heehee
#12
the_peacebringer
Sep 30, 2004 7:13:36
Create Tree of Life was a 8th-level Wizard spell and a 6th-level spell of the Sphere of Cosmos.

I stand corrected, but elemental clerics do get the advantages, right?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 the_peacebringer Sep 27, 2004 16:58:02	I was just wondering if trees of life were like in the 2e (give spells to druids and clerics, suck up defiling damage, material & metaphysical life force, etc.)or if things would change in 3.5. I searched for it in old threads but didn't find anything concerning mechanics... or maybe this wasn't relevant enough to become a thread. Well too bad, it is now! :D PB
#2 Pennarin Sep 27, 2004 17:05:52	What I recall from discussions is that the concept is being redone in preparation for its inclusion in Secrets of the Dead Lands. Making trees of life is now an epic creation process, IIRC, and will appear in the same place and time (probably DS3 core) as the epic and advanced beings rules. As for the flavor of what the tree does - life energy battery, free nature spells,... - it will probably stay unchanged as athas.org is bound to keep the flavor as little changed as possible.
#3 zombiegleemax Sep 28, 2004 3:29:25	I'd imagine they'd work like the node magic in Forgotten Realms. Adapted for different elements. For example a tree of like created by a fire druid, my have leaves of gold and red and could grant positve elemental spells such as protection from energy(fire).
#4 Pennarin Sep 28, 2004 9:32:50	For example a tree of like created by a fire druid, my have leaves of gold and red and could grant positve elemental spells such as protection from energy(fire). Except for the fire druid thing its a good idea, although I suspect all trees will be unviversal in capabilities and not specific, e.g. one tree particularly helpful to arcane spellcasters, another to druids, ...
#5 jihun-nish Sep 28, 2004 10:02:51	I'd imagine they'd work like the node magic in Forgotten Realms. Adapted for different elements. For example a tree of like created by a fire druid, my have leaves of gold and red and could grant positve elemental spells such as protection from energy(fire). From what I remember, Trees of Life are a recipient of tremoundous raw power. (usually used by druids. preservers/defilers.) I dont think elementals could do so since their magic is clerical(from the elemental planes themselves) To put it bluntly, I think Trees of Life were created to produce great amount of raw natural magical energy for wizards(and druids, I guess) because of what the ''art'' could cause to the natural land. Never ment for the elementals. To my point of view, they cant use the ToL.
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 28, 2004 20:48:10	In 2e, if I remember correctly, Earth and Water clerics were able to create Trees of Life too... For the divine casting (druids and clerics), it's more being closer to earth/nature than being a druid or not. Arcane magic on the other hand, has nothing to do with nature for the creation process... Probably a long stolen secret.
#7 the_peacebringer Sep 29, 2004 7:09:45	I believe you're right. I think the trees of life gave advantages to both druids and elemental clerics (certain spells) and both could create them. The only thing they did for wizards was suck up defiler damage.
#8 elonarc Sep 29, 2004 8:20:29	Only Druids and Wizards could create ToL. It was a high-level wizard spell and a high level spell from the sphere of cosmos. As clerics just had minor access to the sphere of cosmos (only druids had major access), they were not able to create ToL, regardless which elemental type.
#9 elonarc Sep 29, 2004 10:58:40	[looked it up at home] Create Tree of Life was a 8th-level Wizard spell and a 6th-level spell of the Sphere of Cosmos.
#10 nytcrawlr Sep 29, 2004 19:50:10	Here is Elonarc on a bad day! :D http://img3.exs.cx/img3/3094/102092135864712917.jpg /me runs
#11 elonarc Sep 30, 2004 0:45:49	NA WARTE!!!!!!!!! [/runs after Nyt] PS: The picture is evidently from my secret project "Pokémon of Athas". It is the entry "Pikachu, athasian". And, by the way, :heehee
#12 the_peacebringer Sep 30, 2004 7:13:36	Create Tree of Life was a 8th-level Wizard spell and a 6th-level spell of the Sphere of Cosmos. I stand corrected, but elemental clerics do get the advantages, right?