25th level: "... The Avangions arms dwindle in musculature and his legs atrophy, becoming too thin to support his body. The Avangion instead travels by floating or flying."
Errors is: No mention of HOW the Avangion floats, without expending physical effort (as in flying)
Suggestion: Spell-like ability such as levitation permanently active, or as a psionic version. Can be dispelled, or consciously dampened by the Avangion. Given as a free feat at the 3/3.5e equivalent of the physical progression to 25th level from 2e
Or just simply give them a flight movement. They do have wings afterall...
Sorry but that's lame to me.
. Psi-like or Spell-Like ability would fit with the stuff in 2e about thier other abilities, but Su works fine too, whatever people think is best for game mechanics.
Just wanted to bring the hole in thier abilities to the Epic Bureau's attention :D
So make it a Su ability, no need for a spell or power that's always on.
Sorry but that's lame to me.
I don't care what it is, it's just needed. No point having avangions not being able to walk, then when they tire from flying, plopping onto the ground as a lump of gossamor wings
I agree with that at least, just forgot to address that in my first post.
Classic case of doing too much at once again.
i think after a few years, we sorta learn each others posting style - heaven nows i've forgotten stuff, rememberred it, then promptly walked away from the computer to make myself a kangaroo steak stir-fry with black bean sauce, come back to the computer, and completely forget my train of thought... :D I agree with that at least, just forgot to address that in my first post.
Classis case of doing too much at once again.
Hi guys, just picked this up when re-reading Avignon descriptions in 2e P&D (pg. 40), if you've already noted this, no worries but otherwise...
25th level: "... The Avangions arms dwindle in musculature and his legs atrophy, becoming too thin to support his body. The Avangion instead travels by floating or flying."
Errors is: No mention of HOW the Avangion floats, without expending physical effort (as in flying)
Suggestion: Spell-like ability such as levitation permanently active, or as a psionic version. Can be dispelled, or consciously dampened by the Avangion. Given as a free feat at the 3/3.5e equivalent of the physical progression to 25th level from 2e
Most likely, we will be taking the approach of a Supernatural ability that grants them perfect flight maneuverability, resulting in true 3D movement in flight.
Most likely, we will be taking the approach of a Supernatural ability that grants them perfect flight maneuverability, resulting in true 3D movement in flight.
then promptly walked away from the computer to make myself a kangaroo steak stir-fry with black bean sauce, come back to the computer, and completely forget my train of thought... :D
Damn you're evil!
That sounds damn good and is making me hungry now, heh.
/me flies to aussy land
Nice. Will the movement maneuverability, speed etc increase as they progress?
Probably. Dunno quite yet, because we haven't started tackling Avangions directly.
Crocodile on the other hand... very nice, especially in Thai cooking, there's this place in melbourne on little bourke st that does the coolest crocodile stir-fry's you can immagine!
Sorry, cooking *unusual* dishes is one of my past-times!
Damn you're evil!
That sounds damn good and is making me hungry now, heh.
/me flies to aussy land
Sorry, cooking *unusual* dishes is one of my past-times!
Works for me.
I had croc once, and shark, both of which I didn't prepare right, and they both turned out not so good.
Would love to find a Thai or other place around here that did croc and shark right though.
:D Probably. Dunno quite yet, because we haven't started tackling Avangions directly.
Hmm.... i can see it now:
Aussie Athas: Attack of the Killer Red Roo's
"An Adventure by Jaanos and NytCrawlr for 3-4 players levels 5-8"
:D
Works for me.
I had croc once, and shark, both of which I didn't prepare right, and they both turned out not so good.
Would love to find a Thai or other place around here that did croc and shark right though.
OK - well, when you and the rest of the Epic Bureau get up to them, don't forget to cover this "gap" from the 2e material, maybe note this thread in your construction notes or something.... just suddenly leaped out at me, thought i'd bring it to the Bureau's attention... consider it my .02c towards the conversion
Yeah Cliff and I were talking about it while I was posting things back and forth with you and I thought it would be cool to make them have perfect manuverability at the last stage.
So don't worry, I will definately make sure they remember, heh.
OK - well, when you and the rest of the Epic Bureau get up to them, don't forget to cover this "gap" from the 2e material, maybe note this thread in your construction notes or something.... just suddenly leaped out at me, thought i'd bring it to the Bureau's attention... consider it my .02c towards the conversion
Considering we're not taking the 2E gamesystem mechanics verbatim in the slightest (Because they don't mesh with 3/3.5E at all), and are trying to stick to 3.5e mechanics, and keep the Dark Sun flavor, I don't think this is much of a problem.
Yeah, Thai cooking rocks, as does northern indian.
Yep, had some Indian food once too. Not sure if it was northern or not. Very tasty and the cury is as hot as they say it is, but damn good. Alot of veggie like stuff with very little meat.
Had some weird green stuff too, wasn't wasabi either, think it might have been another form of cury.
You know, it suddenly occured to me; Kangaroo's wouldn't be that out of place on Athas at all, particually the Red Kangaroo (desert dwelling species) - fast, mobile, doesn't need much, water, capable of consuming salt-bush etc... source of protien for humans, can travel very rapidly for extended periods of time...
Hmm.... i can see it now:
Aussie Athas: Attack of the Killer Red Roo's
"An Adventure by Jaanos and NytCrawlr for 3-4 players levels 5-8"
:D
Don't give Elonarc any ideas. ;)
Better yet, don't give me any ideas, heh. :P
I think finishing off with perfect manuverability at the last stage would be sweet, and give them an edge of dragons in terms of dexterity.Jaanos
Yeah Cliff and I were talking about it while I was posting things back and forth with you and I thought it would be cool to make them have perfect manuverability at the last stage.
So don't worry, I will definately make sure they remember, heh.
Considering we're not taking the 2E gamesystem mechanics verbatim in the slightest (Because they don't mesh with 3/3.5E at all), and are trying to stick to 3.5e mechanics, and keep the Dark Sun flavor, I don't think this is much of a problem.
Jaan
Yep, had some Indian food once too. Not sure if it was northern or not. Very tasty and the cury is as hot as they say it is, but damn good. Alot of veggie like stuff with very little meat.
Had some weird green stuff too, wasn't wasabi either, think it might have been another form of cury.
Don't give Elonarc any ideas. ;)
Better yet, don't give me any ideas, heh. :P
As for the Athasian Kangaroo's, might have to do a conversion... did Kangaroo's appear in any 2e material (me thinks not!) i was thinking of giving them psionics at will, like spider climb, crazy leaping, and the ability to materialise out of the darkness right into your campsite without making a sound, and steal your still-cooling damper from near fire-places! :D
I say go for it, it's all you. :D
[Has been listening in a dark corner all the time and now sneaks away, mumbling things like "The Tournament - kangaroo and thri-kreen leap it out, that's a good adventure title", "Athasian Endgame - helpless oronis beat to death by rabid kangaroo", "I could do a 'Wombat, Athasian', it must be a relative of the 'Pikachu, Athasian'" and "Hmmm, kangaroo" (I also like to cook)]
1. Athasian Kangaroo's
2. Athasian psionic wombats with defensive stance and psionic tunneling?
3. The flight issue for Avangions?
Cheers
Jaanos
Any movement on:
1. Athasian Kangaroo's
2. Athasian psionic wombats with defensive stance and psionic tunneling?
3. The flight issue for Avangions?
Cheers
Jaanos
The mailing lists have been down, Flip has been working on them, but it takes time. Meanwhile, I have heard that Jon and Seker have been working hard at getting a rough draft/starting point to work from for Avangions together.
Sigh.... this was covered in another very recent avangion thread. The two main running contenders are "Fey" or "Outsider (native)".
Hey, I don't get to all the threads, so stir-fry my kangaroo! :D