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#1
scoti_garbidis
Oct 18, 2004 7:49:22 I am currently reading the Wheel of Time series and have noticed that a few of the provinces or peoples use weapons specific to those provinces or people. I am curious if there is a list of weapons and armor for that matter that link peoples/monsters of Greyhawk to specific weapons/armor. If you have any ideas or know where to find info, I would greatly appreciate it.

I believe that in the Living Greyhawk Journal #2 there is a specific weapon for the Rhenee and I know the Kuo-Toa use Pincer Staff's that are unique to them but I do not have a vast knowledge of Greyhawk.

Don't want to over step my boundaries but this might even be another great topic to make a list for, like the Dragons and Giants of Greyhawk.

A big THANKS to all who reply!
#2
zombiegleemax
Oct 20, 2004 0:44:19 I like this subject although it seems less pertinent in 3.xE than in previous editions, which restricted weapon proficiency significantly.

Nevertheless, I think that both the WoG and the 1e MM (and the 2e MCs) provide plenty of 411 that could be used to answer your question about the regional / cultural preferences in weaponry. While I'm not up for making the suggested list, I'm willing to research a specific place if you don't have access to the aforementioned sources.

Also, Creighton Broadhurst, Paul Looby, and Stuart Kerrigan recently suggested that the Tenha use a distinctive sword, the kathach. See http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=lg/articles/mp20040629a.
#3
scoti_garbidis
Oct 20, 2004 8:08:03 I have started a small list on my website. The table is very primitive but I believe serves a purpose. I am gonna try to link to it but if I cannot, then send me a message and I will give you the address.

http://www.geocities.com/Rockstar1979/specwep.html
#4
OleOneEye
Oct 23, 2004 8:29:15 Know exporters of Iron are Ahlissa, Irongate, and the Frost Barbarians. Thus, they should also be some of the more important weaponsmiths.

Lordship of the Isles has mithril reserves, ensuring the elves have spectacular weaponry that all would trade for before the elves secluded themselves.

Other important locations for ores and minerals include Sunndi, the Crystal Peaks, Yatils, Clatspurs, Barrier Peaks, Lortmils, Drachensgrabs, and Mounds of Dawn. Inhabitants of these lands would be the better weaponsmiths.

Noted bowmen: Geoff, Tiger Nomads (horn bows), Paynims (horn bows), and Ull (huge bows), Yeomanry, Highfolk, Sunndi elves, Veluna elves, Gamboge elves, and Grandwood elves.

Ice Barbarians are noted for using harpoons.

The best pikemen come from Perrenland and Veluna.

Noted users of polearms are Perrenland, Ull, and the Yeomanry.

Halberdiers in Sterich.

Scimitars used in Tusmit and the Paynims.

Paynims use lance, mace, and flail. Tiger nomads use long slender lances. Tusmit uses mace and flail. Ull uses great maces.

Sea Barons are notable for their fine daggers.

Slings are popular in Sunndi.

Crossbows are common in Sunndi, Yeomanry, Irongate, and Keoland.

The Amedio savages use blowpipes, darts, and javelins - often coated with poison.

Notable fine cavalry include: Geoff, Gran March (wear chain mail), Ahlissa, Keoland (both heavy and light with crossbows), Perrenland (heavy), Sterich (medium), Tenh (medium), Tiger Nomads (light), Ull, Veluna, Bandit Kingdoms, and the Paynims.

The best horses come from the Paynims, Rovers, Wolf Nomads, Zief, and especially Ull (known for its very expensive and magnificent warhorses).

Furs, and thus hide or leather armor, come from the Frost Barbarians, Ice Barbarians, Iuz, Paynims, Ratik, Rovers, Stonehold, Tiger Nomads, Wolf Nomads, and the Adri forest.

The Yeomanry is noted for use of leather armor.

Cloth, and thus large numbers of padded armor, comes from Ahlissa, Bissel, Celene, Dyvers, Ekvir, Furyondy, Geoff, Gran March, Keoland, North Kingdom, Nyrond, Ulek Duchy and County, Yeomanry, and Veluna.

The Abbor-Alz is notable for its craftworking, which would suggest fine weapons and armor.

Mercenaries are common in Perrenland and the Paynims, suggesting a great variety of weaponry used.

Ahlissa is notable for magical knowledge, suggesting a greater concentration of magical arms and armor.

Shipbuilding lands are Dyvers, Ekbir, Frost Barbarians (long boats), Furyondy, Lordship of Isles, Ratik, Rel Astra, Sea Barons, Ekbir, and Nyrond (notably men-of-war).

The Sea Barons are noted for seafaring technology suggesting they have the most advanced ships.

The best sailors hail from Onnwal, Frost, Ice, and Snow Barbarians.

The best architects, and thus most advanced castlebuilders, are from Nyrond and the Duchy of Ulek (with elvin influence).
#5
Mortepierre
Oct 23, 2004 12:34:39
Know exporters of Iron are Ahlissa, Irongate, and the Frost Barbarians. Thus, they should also be some of the more important weaponsmiths.

I beg to differ in the case of Frost Barbarians. They may have access to the raw materials but that doesn't mean they are good smiths. Indeed, importing weapons from the Bandit Kingdoms was a lucrative trade before the war.

Lordship of the Isles has mithril reserves, ensuring the elves have spectacular weaponry that all would trade for before the elves secluded themselves.

I am curious. How would the Lordship of the Isles' mithril reserves affect elven weaponry? The LotI is a human country. Sure, they could have traded some to the elves (before the SB took over) but I don't remember any major deal between the two even before the war. Or did I miss this?

Fact is, I don't even remember reading about mithril in LotI. What is your source?
#6
zombiegleemax
Oct 31, 2004 6:53:52
I am currently reading the Wheel of Time series and have noticed that a few of the provinces or peoples use weapons specific to those provinces or people. I am curious if there is a list of weapons and armor for that matter that link peoples/monsters of Greyhawk to specific weapons/armor. If you have any ideas or know where to find info, I would greatly appreciate it.

I believe that in the Living Greyhawk Journal #2 there is a specific weapon for the Rhenee and I know the Kuo-Toa use Pincer Staff's that are unique to them but I do not have a vast knowledge of Greyhawk.

Don't want to over step my boundaries but this might even be another great topic to make a list for, like the Dragons and Giants of Greyhawk.

A big THANKS to all who reply!

A long while ago I was working on a write-up of what weapons & armor the common people of the Flanaess would use, but are you interested in only unique weapons and armor?

Here is an example of what I was working on.

[Almor]:

-Slaves:
Slavery Outlawed

-Serfs:
Serfdom Unknown

-Peasants:
Farmers/Fishermen/Foresters/Herdsmen/Miners/Servants.
Peasants make up about 50% of the commoner population. 90% are tenant farmers, fishermen or herdsmen. Children are responsible for parents debts. Peasants may become freemen if debt is paid or term of service fulfilled. Much of the farmlands, herds and fishing fleet is owned by nobles or the temples. Taxes and tithes keep the peasants in almost continual debt.

Military Training: Common.
Normally limited to spears, longbows, woodsmen-axes, knives and wooden-shields. Better weapons are possessed by those with wealthy lords who supply them on loan. Trainers are of low skill.

Loyalty: Very high.
Peasants are reasonably well treated, protected by their squires, lords and attended to by the clerics of the various temples.

- Freemen:
Merchants/Freeholders/Ranchers/Herdsmen/Ship or Boat Owners/Mine Owners
Freemen make up about 50% of the population. They are the backbone of the prelacy, their sons and daughters either form the militia or lead the peasants levies. The standing army and nobles guardsmen are composed of freemen.

Military Training: Required.
Any Weapon type is possible depending on the wealth of the individual and the availability of the weapons or armor. Trainers are of moderate skill. Some have practical combat experience and training from the standing army with the crossbow, longbow, fauchard, glaive, battle-axe, studded-leather armor, chainmail, shield.

Loyalty: Extremely high.
#7
scoti_garbidis
Oct 31, 2004 9:51:07 That is some interesting info but I am, like you said, trying to compile a list of specific weapons that are used by the different races/peoples of the Flanaess.
#8
zombiegleemax
Oct 31, 2004 16:13:44
That is some interesting info but I am, like you said, trying to compile a list of specific weapons that are used by the different races/peoples of the Flanaess.

Specific doesn't seem to be the best word. Unique, perhaps, specific to each culture. I'd combine this with the post on which earthly nations and people that those of the Flanaess are based on. For example I would have the longbow as a cultural weapon of those from Geoff.

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#1 scoti_garbidis Oct 18, 2004 7:49:22	I am currently reading the Wheel of Time series and have noticed that a few of the provinces or peoples use weapons specific to those provinces or people. I am curious if there is a list of weapons and armor for that matter that link peoples/monsters of Greyhawk to specific weapons/armor. If you have any ideas or know where to find info, I would greatly appreciate it. I believe that in the Living Greyhawk Journal #2 there is a specific weapon for the Rhenee and I know the Kuo-Toa use Pincer Staff's that are unique to them but I do not have a vast knowledge of Greyhawk. Don't want to over step my boundaries but this might even be another great topic to make a list for, like the Dragons and Giants of Greyhawk. A big THANKS to all who reply!
#2 zombiegleemax Oct 20, 2004 0:44:19	I like this subject although it seems less pertinent in 3.xE than in previous editions, which restricted weapon proficiency significantly. Nevertheless, I think that both the WoG and the 1e MM (and the 2e MCs) provide plenty of 411 that could be used to answer your question about the regional / cultural preferences in weaponry. While I'm not up for making the suggested list, I'm willing to research a specific place if you don't have access to the aforementioned sources. Also, Creighton Broadhurst, Paul Looby, and Stuart Kerrigan recently suggested that the Tenha use a distinctive sword, the kathach. See http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=lg/articles/mp20040629a.
#3 scoti_garbidis Oct 20, 2004 8:08:03	I have started a small list on my website. The table is very primitive but I believe serves a purpose. I am gonna try to link to it but if I cannot, then send me a message and I will give you the address. http://www.geocities.com/Rockstar1979/specwep.html
#4 OleOneEye Oct 23, 2004 8:29:15	Know exporters of Iron are Ahlissa, Irongate, and the Frost Barbarians. Thus, they should also be some of the more important weaponsmiths. Lordship of the Isles has mithril reserves, ensuring the elves have spectacular weaponry that all would trade for before the elves secluded themselves. Other important locations for ores and minerals include Sunndi, the Crystal Peaks, Yatils, Clatspurs, Barrier Peaks, Lortmils, Drachensgrabs, and Mounds of Dawn. Inhabitants of these lands would be the better weaponsmiths. Noted bowmen: Geoff, Tiger Nomads (horn bows), Paynims (horn bows), and Ull (huge bows), Yeomanry, Highfolk, Sunndi elves, Veluna elves, Gamboge elves, and Grandwood elves. Ice Barbarians are noted for using harpoons. The best pikemen come from Perrenland and Veluna. Noted users of polearms are Perrenland, Ull, and the Yeomanry. Halberdiers in Sterich. Scimitars used in Tusmit and the Paynims. Paynims use lance, mace, and flail. Tiger nomads use long slender lances. Tusmit uses mace and flail. Ull uses great maces. Sea Barons are notable for their fine daggers. Slings are popular in Sunndi. Crossbows are common in Sunndi, Yeomanry, Irongate, and Keoland. The Amedio savages use blowpipes, darts, and javelins - often coated with poison. Notable fine cavalry include: Geoff, Gran March (wear chain mail), Ahlissa, Keoland (both heavy and light with crossbows), Perrenland (heavy), Sterich (medium), Tenh (medium), Tiger Nomads (light), Ull, Veluna, Bandit Kingdoms, and the Paynims. The best horses come from the Paynims, Rovers, Wolf Nomads, Zief, and especially Ull (known for its very expensive and magnificent warhorses). Furs, and thus hide or leather armor, come from the Frost Barbarians, Ice Barbarians, Iuz, Paynims, Ratik, Rovers, Stonehold, Tiger Nomads, Wolf Nomads, and the Adri forest. The Yeomanry is noted for use of leather armor. Cloth, and thus large numbers of padded armor, comes from Ahlissa, Bissel, Celene, Dyvers, Ekvir, Furyondy, Geoff, Gran March, Keoland, North Kingdom, Nyrond, Ulek Duchy and County, Yeomanry, and Veluna. The Abbor-Alz is notable for its craftworking, which would suggest fine weapons and armor. Mercenaries are common in Perrenland and the Paynims, suggesting a great variety of weaponry used. Ahlissa is notable for magical knowledge, suggesting a greater concentration of magical arms and armor. Shipbuilding lands are Dyvers, Ekbir, Frost Barbarians (long boats), Furyondy, Lordship of Isles, Ratik, Rel Astra, Sea Barons, Ekbir, and Nyrond (notably men-of-war). The Sea Barons are noted for seafaring technology suggesting they have the most advanced ships. The best sailors hail from Onnwal, Frost, Ice, and Snow Barbarians. The best architects, and thus most advanced castlebuilders, are from Nyrond and the Duchy of Ulek (with elvin influence).
#5 Mortepierre Oct 23, 2004 12:34:39	Know exporters of Iron are Ahlissa, Irongate, and the Frost Barbarians. Thus, they should also be some of the more important weaponsmiths. I beg to differ in the case of Frost Barbarians. They may have access to the raw materials but that doesn't mean they are good smiths. Indeed, importing weapons from the Bandit Kingdoms was a lucrative trade before the war. Lordship of the Isles has mithril reserves, ensuring the elves have spectacular weaponry that all would trade for before the elves secluded themselves. I am curious. How would the Lordship of the Isles' mithril reserves affect elven weaponry? The LotI is a human country. Sure, they could have traded some to the elves (before the SB took over) but I don't remember any major deal between the two even before the war. Or did I miss this? Fact is, I don't even remember reading about mithril in LotI. What is your source?
#6 zombiegleemax Oct 31, 2004 6:53:52	I am currently reading the Wheel of Time series and have noticed that a few of the provinces or peoples use weapons specific to those provinces or people. I am curious if there is a list of weapons and armor for that matter that link peoples/monsters of Greyhawk to specific weapons/armor. If you have any ideas or know where to find info, I would greatly appreciate it. I believe that in the Living Greyhawk Journal #2 there is a specific weapon for the Rhenee and I know the Kuo-Toa use Pincer Staff's that are unique to them but I do not have a vast knowledge of Greyhawk. Don't want to over step my boundaries but this might even be another great topic to make a list for, like the Dragons and Giants of Greyhawk. A big THANKS to all who reply! A long while ago I was working on a write-up of what weapons & armor the common people of the Flanaess would use, but are you interested in only unique weapons and armor? Here is an example of what I was working on. [Almor]: -Slaves: Slavery Outlawed -Serfs: Serfdom Unknown -Peasants: Farmers/Fishermen/Foresters/Herdsmen/Miners/Servants. Peasants make up about 50% of the commoner population. 90% are tenant farmers, fishermen or herdsmen. Children are responsible for parents debts. Peasants may become freemen if debt is paid or term of service fulfilled. Much of the farmlands, herds and fishing fleet is owned by nobles or the temples. Taxes and tithes keep the peasants in almost continual debt. Military Training: Common. Normally limited to spears, longbows, woodsmen-axes, knives and wooden-shields. Better weapons are possessed by those with wealthy lords who supply them on loan. Trainers are of low skill. Loyalty: Very high. Peasants are reasonably well treated, protected by their squires, lords and attended to by the clerics of the various temples. - Freemen: Merchants/Freeholders/Ranchers/Herdsmen/Ship or Boat Owners/Mine Owners Freemen make up about 50% of the population. They are the backbone of the prelacy, their sons and daughters either form the militia or lead the peasants levies. The standing army and nobles guardsmen are composed of freemen. Military Training: Required. Any Weapon type is possible depending on the wealth of the individual and the availability of the weapons or armor. Trainers are of moderate skill. Some have practical combat experience and training from the standing army with the crossbow, longbow, fauchard, glaive, battle-axe, studded-leather armor, chainmail, shield. Loyalty: Extremely high.
#7 scoti_garbidis Oct 31, 2004 9:51:07	That is some interesting info but I am, like you said, trying to compile a list of specific weapons that are used by the different races/peoples of the Flanaess.
#8 zombiegleemax Oct 31, 2004 16:13:44	That is some interesting info but I am, like you said, trying to compile a list of specific weapons that are used by the different races/peoples of the Flanaess. Specific doesn't seem to be the best word. Unique, perhaps, specific to each culture. I'd combine this with the post on which earthly nations and people that those of the Flanaess are based on. For example I would have the longbow as a cultural weapon of those from Geoff.