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#1scoti_garbidisNov 09, 2004 14:19:01 | I am curious if anyone knows where I might find maps of the underdark in WOG. I am interested in the underdark and was wondering if any large area maps are available. |
#2zombiegleemaxNov 09, 2004 16:42:36 | I am curious if anyone knows where I might find maps of the underdark in WOG. I am interested in the underdark and was wondering if any large area maps are available. The largest area map of the Underdark, or at least one layer of it, is from the D series modules. Other than sections covered in these three modules the map is largly blank with some suggestions in one of the modules for possible encounters in other areas of the map. (Was it the monster modules GDQ1-7 that had these or was it D3?) I'd also recomend the boxed adventure 'Night Below'. While it is not officially set in Greyhawk, it is Greyhawk in feel and quality. A Dragon magazine article detailed the city of the Drow, Erelhei-Cinlu, and the Forgotten Realms module 'City of the Spider Queen' might be useful with some alteration, or the setting 'Mezzobarenzan (sp?). Keep in mind that the Underdark is not simply a single layer. It is not 2 dimensional, but 3. Picture a watermelon. Take a threaded needle and run it through the watermelon. That is one pathway. Run a hundred threads, a thousand, from different directions, some horizontal, some at angles, some close to the surface, others from top to bottom. This is the underdark, tunnels and caverns, depth and height, one dwellers ceiling is anothers floor. What is presented in the 'D' series is more of a 2 dimensional representation, a layer of the underdark, as I see it. But it is much more exciting to think in three dimensions and usually a new experience for players. |
#3AmarilNov 09, 2004 18:15:36 | Greyhawk's Underdark is something that I've always desired, too. I began collecting various sources to appease my hunger, starting with Dragon #298, which featured an update to the Vault of the Drow plus numerous other drow articles. I continued by purchasing a PDF version of the GDQ1-7 Super module, Queen of the Spiders. WGR5 Iuz the Evil specifically featured more information about Eclavdra (see Vault of the Drow Article in Dragon #298) and her relationship and work with Iuz as referenced in the Dragon article. If I think of any other materials, I'll be sure to post them here. |
#4AmarilNov 09, 2004 18:25:33 | Oh yeah, Dragon #300 had a few additional characters as a follow-up to the Vault of the Drow article in #298. |
#5omoteNov 10, 2004 14:16:14 | Just as a personal note, I don't see the "Underdark" of Oerth like that of the Fprgptten Realms. Personally I think the Underoerth is much more inaccessible. The Vault of the Drow would be the largest known Drow city, while others exsist i think they would be smaller, and not neccessarily aware of Erelhei-Cinlu. That's just how I see it, but when the Drow are cut-off from each other, it makes for a cetain difference in the "feel" of the Greyhawk Dark elves. ..............................Omote FPQ |
#6AmarilNov 10, 2004 14:40:56 | By the way, the Dieties and Demigods issue of Dragon mentions (in passing) a passage way that leads from Rift Canyon to the Hellfurnaces. I beleive it was in the Living Greyhawk Journal article about artifacts of Oerth. |
#7ividNov 11, 2004 1:54:41 | I think the territories of the Drow basically start at the Hellfurnaces and expand to the west; more Drow colonies can be found in the *Chainmail* lands, if I am not mistaken. The elven realms in the Flanaess were always so mighty that it sounds not probable that a Drow culture like in Faerun could have developed. |
#8cebrionNov 11, 2004 3:06:03 | Just the title of this thread got my mind spinning. In my mind I see a poster sized map in black(with a hex grid that corresponds to that of the soon-to-be-realeased four part Greyhawk map) showing the location of main arterial caverns in the underdark, with cities marked out by affiliation as well as special locations and exits/entrances to and from the world above. That would get me interested in running an underdark campaign in an instant and would be a great companion to the four part map. As to existing maps set in the underdark, the previously sited works contain many good references(the G-D-Q series, Night Below, and City of the Spider Queen). There is also a reference somewhere about there being a drow city under the Sulhaut Mountains(probably referenced in the 1983 Brown Box). That could be Erelhei-Cinlu though, but maybe some other site. ---Cebrion |
#9zombiegleemaxNov 11, 2004 9:13:58 | Just the title of this thread got my mind spinning. In my mind I see a poster sized map in black(with a hex grid that corresponds to that of the soon-to-be-realeased four part Greyhawk map) showing the location of main arterial caverns in the underdark, with cities marked out by affiliation as well as special locations and exits/entrances to and from the world above. That would get me interested in running an underdark campaign in an instant and would be a great companion to the four part map. I remember some reference to an unnamed Drow city somewhere in the early material but the only two named Drow cities that I've referenced are; Urlisinsatu Sea of Death pg#89 Urrq'Azzt Poly#113 pg#23 |
#10ividNov 11, 2004 11:42:03 | I think, Underearth ruins, cities and buildings in the old Elven Empire/The Flanaess would rather belong to some dwarven clans or Umbra, but nor necessarily to the Dark elves. After all, their light cousins hunted them until their near extinction, didn't they? |