This idea came to me in another thread. Is it possible that there would be a group(s) dedicated to Ionthas/Chaos in the Age of Mortals? I realize that he wouldn't have clerics, but could you see a group/cult devoted to the destruction of creation on Krynn that would warrant a PrC? I'm thinking something along the lines of The Doomguard Faction from Planescape (for those familiar with that setting) but more Krynn oriented.
Thoughts?
#2frostdawnNov 12, 2004 14:22:22
This idea came to me in another thread. Is it possible that there would be a group(s) dedicated to Ionthas/Chaos in the Age of Mortals? I realize that he wouldn't have clerics, but could you see a group/cult devoted to the destruction of creation on Krynn that would warrant a PrC? I'm thinking something along the lines of The Doomgaurd Faction Planescape (for those familiar with that setting) but more Krynn oriented.
Thoughts?
I don't know what the 'official' stance on that is, but it sounds like a plausible, and interesting idea to me. Wanton destruction and/or chaos in the name of Chaos. Encounters would always be memorable for one thing. It would be a good occasion to introduce alot of chaotic creatures seldom seen in Dragonlance for another, and that alone is good IMHO.
Unlike Mr 4 legged turkey here...
#3cam_banksNov 12, 2004 14:37:02
I'm sure there are crazed cultists in the setting that worship Chaos for whatever reason. He's a being that inspires awe, certainly, and as the embodiment of the nature that lent itself to his name, he's probably a favorite of nihilists, destroyers, preachers of doom, and so forth. Mystics might even take up his cause, using their own faith in his divinity as a means of manifesting their own internal magic. Give them the Chaos, Fire, or Madness domain (from Complete Divine, among other places) and you're set.
They may also have their own names for him. If you wanted to use the unofficial name Ionthas as one of these, that would be one way to do it. Alternately, he may be seen as a she, or a cosmic force (which is more accurate, really), or a state of being, or a pantheon of chaos gods that together make up the gestalt deity that is Chaos incarnate. All of these are possible. Just because he's not handing out spells and has no clerics doesn't rule out worshipers.
Cheers,
Cam
#4talinthasNov 12, 2004 14:40:17
my campaign had a roving band of mystics who wanted the return of chaos. maybe i'll write up a fluff article and post it somewhere =)
#5SysaneNov 12, 2004 14:43:03
Good points. I'll start hashing out some ideas on paper to come up with a little write up on the Chaos cults along with a 5 or 10 level PrC.
#6zombiegleemaxNov 12, 2004 20:23:43
I've been toying with this idea as a side adventure/encounter when I get a game together for KoD. In my current campaign worshippers of Chaos would be a very very very small sect due to the fact that I'm running a Age of Might campaign. The Barbarian, Fighter, Mystic, Rogue, Sorcerer, and new Warlock would work well for core classes for a Chaos worshipper and the Frenzied Berserker, Reaping Mauler, and Ravanger as warrior-type PrCs. I'd like to see a PrC for a chaos spellcaster.
#7caeruleusNov 12, 2004 21:50:21
You may want to give those who worship Chaos the Doomdreamer prestige class from Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil. The Doomdreamers worship Tharizdun, who also wants to unmake the world. Or you could use a modified version of it.
#8zombiegleemaxNov 13, 2004 1:02:40
You may want to give those who worship Chaos the Doomdreamer prestige class from Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil. The Doomdreamers worship Tharizdun, who also wants to unmake the world. Or you could use a modified version of it.
Regrettably, I don't have that module. I'll see if someone I know does, but in the mean time could you give me the lowdown on it? From the name it sounds more like someone who plots and plans to bring out the end rather than actually being completely chaotic.
#9SysaneNov 13, 2004 9:33:43
The Doomguard from Planscape maybe suitable to base followers of Chaos as well. Their is a 3.5. PrC for them in the Planar Handbook if if I'm not mistaken.
#10caeruleusNov 14, 2004 1:16:12
Regrettably, I don't have that module. I'll see if someone I know does, but in the mean time could you give me the lowdown on it? From the name it sounds more like someone who plots and plans to bring out the end rather than actually being completely chaotic.
What the Doomdreamers actively do is try to bring Tharizdun back into the world. That happens to be something that would lead to the destruction of the world, but they don't care (they're mad). Perhaps your worshippers of Chaos could be trying to bring him back.
It's a 5-level class, each level granting +1 level of cleric spellcasting, plus various special abilities.
#11SysaneNov 15, 2004 12:08:37
This is what I've come up with so far. This is definitely a work in progress. I've forgone the fluff part of it for now. I can't deside wheather to make this a mystic only, or open it to both mystics and sorcerers. Comments and suggestions are welcome.
Seeker of Oblivion
Hit Die: d8
Requirements
To qualify to become a Seeker of Oblivion a character must fulfill all the following criteria. Alignment: Any non good non Lawful. Skills: Disable Device 6 ranks Spells: the ability to cast 3rd level mystic or sorcerer spells.
Class Skills
The Seeker of Oblivion’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Bluff (Cha), Concentration (Con), Disable Device (Int), Disguise (Cha), Forgery (Int), Intimidate (Cha), Knowledge (arcane) (Int), Knowledge (religion) (Int), Spellcraft (Int).
Skill Points at Each Level: 2 + Int modifier.
#12SysaneNov 15, 2004 14:14:52
I also need a few ideas on what abilities to give at 3rd, 7th, and 9th level (if any) for this PrC. I'm also considering on making this 5 levels rather than 10. Any input would be appreciated.
#13zombiegleemaxNov 30, 2004 15:19:14
Part of my current epic campaign revolves around an ancient servant of Chaos attempting to spread chaotic influence around Krynn (and perhaps even bring about the return of his master). He recently joined up with a sorcerer and founded a secret school for "Chaos Mages". Its basically a reworking of the old 2e Wild Mage class. I'll try and post it when I have some extra time.
#14SysaneNov 30, 2004 15:22:28
Part of my current epic campaign revolves around an ancient servant of Chaos attempting to spread chaotic influence around Krynn (and perhaps even bring about the return of his master). He recently joined up with a sorcerer and founded a secret school for "Chaos Mages". Its basically a reworking of the old 2e Wild Mage class. I'll try and post it when I have some extra time.
They actually re-did wild mages in the Complete Arcane. Granted, its no where near as neat as they were in 2e.
#15zombiegleemaxNov 30, 2004 15:40:16
Agreed. That's why I thought they had to be revamped and made more DL flavored.
#16SysaneNov 30, 2004 15:44:31
Nothing beats the wild surge table. :P
Here's the finished PrC I came up with if your interested:
Since when is Ionthas considered an unofficial name? I thought it was in one of the novels.
#18SysaneDec 01, 2004 9:17:49
Since when is Ionthas considered an unofficial name? I thought it was in one of the novels.
Thats a good question. If Ionthas is "unofficial" where did the name come from?
#19cam_banksDec 01, 2004 9:32:17
Thats a good question. If Ionthas is "unofficial" where did the name come from?
Ionthas was the name given to Chaos in the Appendix to Dragons of a Vanished Moon, which was included in the hardbound copy of the book but not included in the mass market paperback copy. It hasn't been used elsewhere (including the text of Dragons of Summer Flame, where Chaos appears). I believe Matthew L. Martin derived it originally from Io, the Ninefold Dragon of the "core" D&D dragon pantheon, and sort of elvished it up, so to speak.
Cheers,
Cam
#20SysaneDec 01, 2004 9:40:31
I prefer Ionthas to just plain "Chaos". I could understand if he choose to take that name later on but if he was "born" with it, it comes off as cheesy. Thats like the Dark Queen being named "Evil" instead of Takhsis IMO. :P
