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#1
Sysane
Nov 19, 2004 13:55:52 :headexplo Take a look at this:

click here
#2
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2004 14:03:58 Sysane,

You need to read the release a little more closely. Only the Dragonlance Adventure Game (The Intro Box) is cancelled. Everything else is still on the table...
#3
Sysane
Nov 19, 2004 14:06:32 Ah, my bad
#4
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2004 14:49:20
Sysane,

You need to read the release a little more closely. Only the Dragonlance Adventure Game (The Intro Box) is cancelled. Everything else is still on the table...

Exactly. We have products planned going all the way into 2006, starting with Key of Destiny early in 2005. Thanks!

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
#5
Sysane
Nov 19, 2004 15:08:38 Sorry the Friday factor and a long work week made me a little

Again, my bad.
#6
cam_banks
Nov 19, 2004 15:17:15
Sorry the Friday factor and a long work week made me a little

Again, my bad.

Feel free to spread the word elsewhere if you see similar posts, though. It's very important folks understand that just that single product was cancelled, not everything else in future.

You aren't the only person to leap to that conclusion. I've had to tell other people the same thing today.

Cheers,
Cam
#7
brimstone
Nov 19, 2004 15:49:19
You aren't the only person to leap to that conclusion. I've had to tell other people the same thing today.

I think it's because of the name of the product. It's called "Dragonlance Adventure Game"...which I guess is being incorrectly construed as the Dragonlance game, in general (even though it's in itallics). If it said "Dragonlance Adventure Game Boxed Set" instead, there probably wouldn't be any confusion.

Not that an analysis of the situation was necessarily...uh...necessary.
#8
wolffenjugend_dup
Nov 19, 2004 17:07:15 Hmmm, could this cancellation perhaps have something to do with (poor) sales of the D&D intro game...
#9
iltharanos
Nov 19, 2004 17:17:09
Hmmm, could this cancellation perhaps have something to do with (poor) sales of the D&D intro game...

Either that ... or WotC wants to eliminate any possible competitors to its own Adventure Game. ;)

EDIT: I can just imagine certain negative-minded fans that will see this latest bit of news as yet another crazy conspiracy theory where Sov Press (in conjunction with the Great Evil ... a.k.a. Wizards of the Coast) is deviously manipulating the "foolish ones" (the fans that don't believe in the conspiracy theory) into a frenzy of appreciation for Sov Press in some nefarious plot to boost the sales of said company.
#10
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2004 17:39:20
Either that ... or WotC wants to eliminate any possible competitors to its own Adventure Game. ;)

EDIT: I can just imagine certain negative-minded fans that will see this latest bit of news as yet another crazy conspiracy theory where Sov Press (in conjunction with the Great Evil ... a.k.a. Wizards of the Coast) is deviously manipulating the "foolish ones" (the fans that don't believe in the conspiracy theory) into a frenzy of appreciation for Sov Press in some nefarious plot to boost the sales of said company.

You're dead right! Because we make tons of money when we tell people that a product is coming out, and then delay or cancel it. Not publishing products is the best way to get filthy rich!

Oh wait...

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
#11
zombiegleemax
Nov 19, 2004 18:32:48 I was pretty sure on what it meant when I saw the release, but still was wondering if the Dragonlance Adventure Game was some sort of new line or something instead of just the one product. Ah well.
#12
ivid
Nov 20, 2004 6:36:43 ARRGH!
:headexplo
One reason more never to buy an Eberron product!
:hoppingma
I was so interested in this!
:raincloud :surrender
Why, o WHY!?
#13
zombiegleemax
Nov 20, 2004 11:44:01 I would also like to post my disappointment in Wizards of the Coast. I was very much looking forward to this product. I was planning on using it to run introductory Dragonlance games at the local game store. I also love the art (and really wanted to add the Boxed Set to my shelf, right next to my 2ed Boxed Set). Thanks so much for making such a fine looking product, though we may never see it produced in person.

Tamora Amberleaf
#14
ranger_reg
Nov 21, 2004 1:35:53 Hmm. I can understand why they cancel it. It would be competing with their other introductory-level product, The Dungeons & Dragons Basic Game.

Personally, it would have been better to supplement the Basic Game, introducing DL with an expansion pack, complete with DL-themed miniatures.

;)
#15
zombiegleemax
Nov 21, 2004 22:19:38 I'm truly saddened by the cancellation of the DL Boxed Game Set. Such short-sightedness is very disheartening. Not only would it prompt renewed interrest in the DnD gaming system as a whole, but would also breathe a new life into one of the orginal gaming worlds of Dragonlance. I personally, and no one I know, have any interrest in playing in the default DnD world and would be more apt to purchase a DL boxed game than the DnD standard system. Tag onto that the fact that most people got their first taste of DnD via the Dragonlance novels, which has better name recognition than Greyhawk.
#16
zombiegleemax
Nov 21, 2004 22:23:27 Hear Hear
#17
ranger_reg
Nov 22, 2004 2:09:50
I personally, and no one I know, have any interrest in playing in the default DnD world and would be more apt to purchase a DL boxed game than the DnD standard system. Tag onto that the fact that most people got their first taste of DnD via the Dragonlance novels, which has better name recognition than Greyhawk.

Though your personal experience and observation may indicate no interest in the default D&D world, that doesn't mean the bigger picture exist. The Basic Game is to introduce newbies to D&D and RPG hobby.

I should know. My first taste of D&D was that red Basic boxed set. Even when I played it, I didn't think too much of the setting, called the Known World which was later named Mystara. I was just looking for the next adventure wherever the DM takes us to play in. Only when I got more comfortable with the rules of the game, I began to be aware of the world, and many worlds including Dragonlance.

Though I am saddened, but it's not a total loss, depending on how clever WotC can turn this thing around. I strongly recommend they make an introductory Dragonlance expansion set for the Basic Game. It gives incentive to buy the Basic Game just as the DLCS give incentive to buy PHB.
#18
ivid
Nov 22, 2004 2:33:18
.... Tag onto that the fact that most people got their first taste of DnD via the Dragonlance novels, which has better name recognition than Greyhawk.

:headexplo

...mmh...errr... maybe you're right...

*Although I can only encourage you all to give old WoG a try!*
;)
#19
taskr36
Nov 27, 2004 18:04:57 It's kind of funny the way people seem to think production of Dragonlance was cancelled for fear it would compete with regular DnD. The fact is, this is the second time it has been cancelled. WotC was never very dedicated to DL as a gaming world to begin with. They stopped producing DL products when 3rd Edition DnD came out. Soveriegn Press took up the flag and attempted to bring Dragonlance back into the gaming world.

I don't know what caused this cancellation, but frankly, there were so many product delays and changed release dates that I stopped looking at the Dragonlance website and quit looking for dragonlance products in the stores. What matters now is that the basic sourcebooks for Dragonlance are out. You all have the materials to run an adventure even if you have to make one up yourselves. There are still gaming products coming out in 2005 so nobody's being left high and dry.
#20
Dragonhelm
Nov 27, 2004 18:13:25 It's just the DL Adventure Game boxed set, not the entire product line.
#21
baron_the_curse
Nov 27, 2004 18:47:12 Well, DnD already has a Basic Box Set intended to bring in new, young players. I guess one is enough for them.
#22
wolffenjugend_dup
Nov 27, 2004 19:56:02 This is EXACTLY the danger of listening to people who cry "the sky is falling, the sky is falling!"

It takes practically no digging to uncover the fact that DL is still going strong. Yet I keep reading posts from people giving last rites to DL.
#23
Dragonhelm
Nov 27, 2004 20:34:28
This is EXACTLY the danger of listening to people who cry "the sky is falling, the sky is falling!"

It takes practically no digging to uncover the fact that DL is still going strong. Yet I keep reading posts from people giving last rites to DL.

In the same thread, even. :P
#24
valharic
Nov 29, 2004 10:47:55
:headexplo

...mmh...errr... maybe you're right...

*Although I can only encourage you all to give old WoG a try!*
;)

I would have to agree. When I'm not running a DL campaign. I'm playing in GH. My buddy has a campaign world of GH he's been running for 20 years now. It's a well developed and exciting world to game in.
#25
zombiegleemax
Nov 29, 2004 16:22:40 Is it possible for WOTC to clean up that press release a little to avoid the confusion. One of my players saw that and immediately jumped to the same conclusion that a lot of others are, that the entire line was cancelled. Sinc only die hard DL gamers are aware that the game books were liscensed to SP(something I need to explain to my players just about every other session) and they were not even aware of the boxed adventure game was going to be publised. Would it be that difficult for WOTC to say that the DL adventure game was cancelled and add a description of the product to avoid teh confusion?
#26
brimstone
Nov 29, 2004 16:27:45
Is it possible for WOTC to clean up that press release a little to avoid the confusion.

If they'd just add the words "boxed set" to the end of "DL Adventure Game" I think it'd clear up all the confusion. (as it seems no one is reading past the first sentence).

All that being said...a poorly worded press release is still better than no press release at all.

(I have to keep saying that to myself else I'll go mad). LOL!

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 Sysane Nov 19, 2004 13:55:52	:headexplo Take a look at this: click here
#2 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2004 14:03:58	Sysane, You need to read the release a little more closely. Only the Dragonlance Adventure Game (The Intro Box) is cancelled. Everything else is still on the table...
#3 Sysane Nov 19, 2004 14:06:32	Ah, my bad
#4 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2004 14:49:20	Sysane, You need to read the release a little more closely. Only the Dragonlance Adventure Game (The Intro Box) is cancelled. Everything else is still on the table... Exactly. We have products planned going all the way into 2006, starting with Key of Destiny early in 2005. Thanks! Jamie Chambers Sovereign Press, Inc.
#5 Sysane Nov 19, 2004 15:08:38	Sorry the Friday factor and a long work week made me a little Again, my bad.
#6 cam_banks Nov 19, 2004 15:17:15	Sorry the Friday factor and a long work week made me a little Again, my bad. Feel free to spread the word elsewhere if you see similar posts, though. It's very important folks understand that just that single product was cancelled, not everything else in future. You aren't the only person to leap to that conclusion. I've had to tell other people the same thing today. Cheers, Cam
#7 brimstone Nov 19, 2004 15:49:19	You aren't the only person to leap to that conclusion. I've had to tell other people the same thing today. I think it's because of the name of the product. It's called "Dragonlance Adventure Game"...which I guess is being incorrectly construed as the Dragonlance game, in general (even though it's in itallics). If it said "Dragonlance Adventure Game Boxed Set" instead, there probably wouldn't be any confusion. Not that an analysis of the situation was necessarily...uh...necessary.
#8 wolffenjugend_dup Nov 19, 2004 17:07:15	Hmmm, could this cancellation perhaps have something to do with (poor) sales of the D&D intro game...
#9 iltharanos Nov 19, 2004 17:17:09	Hmmm, could this cancellation perhaps have something to do with (poor) sales of the D&D intro game... Either that ... or WotC wants to eliminate any possible competitors to its own Adventure Game. ;) EDIT: I can just imagine certain negative-minded fans that will see this latest bit of news as yet another crazy conspiracy theory where Sov Press (in conjunction with the Great Evil ... a.k.a. Wizards of the Coast) is deviously manipulating the "foolish ones" (the fans that don't believe in the conspiracy theory) into a frenzy of appreciation for Sov Press in some nefarious plot to boost the sales of said company.
#10 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2004 17:39:20	Either that ... or WotC wants to eliminate any possible competitors to its own Adventure Game. ;) EDIT: I can just imagine certain negative-minded fans that will see this latest bit of news as yet another crazy conspiracy theory where Sov Press (in conjunction with the Great Evil ... a.k.a. Wizards of the Coast) is deviously manipulating the "foolish ones" (the fans that don't believe in the conspiracy theory) into a frenzy of appreciation for Sov Press in some nefarious plot to boost the sales of said company. You're dead right! Because we make tons of money when we tell people that a product is coming out, and then delay or cancel it. Not publishing products is the best way to get filthy rich! Oh wait... Jamie Chambers Sovereign Press, Inc.
#11 zombiegleemax Nov 19, 2004 18:32:48	I was pretty sure on what it meant when I saw the release, but still was wondering if the Dragonlance Adventure Game was some sort of new line or something instead of just the one product. Ah well.
#12 ivid Nov 20, 2004 6:36:43	ARRGH! :headexplo One reason more never to buy an Eberron product! :hoppingma I was so interested in this! :raincloud :surrender Why, o WHY!?
#13 zombiegleemax Nov 20, 2004 11:44:01	I would also like to post my disappointment in Wizards of the Coast. I was very much looking forward to this product. I was planning on using it to run introductory Dragonlance games at the local game store. I also love the art (and really wanted to add the Boxed Set to my shelf, right next to my 2ed Boxed Set). Thanks so much for making such a fine looking product, though we may never see it produced in person. Tamora Amberleaf
#14 ranger_reg Nov 21, 2004 1:35:53	Hmm. I can understand why they cancel it. It would be competing with their other introductory-level product, The Dungeons & Dragons Basic Game. Personally, it would have been better to supplement the Basic Game, introducing DL with an expansion pack, complete with DL-themed miniatures. ;)
#15 zombiegleemax Nov 21, 2004 22:19:38	I'm truly saddened by the cancellation of the DL Boxed Game Set. Such short-sightedness is very disheartening. Not only would it prompt renewed interrest in the DnD gaming system as a whole, but would also breathe a new life into one of the orginal gaming worlds of Dragonlance. I personally, and no one I know, have any interrest in playing in the default DnD world and would be more apt to purchase a DL boxed game than the DnD standard system. Tag onto that the fact that most people got their first taste of DnD via the Dragonlance novels, which has better name recognition than Greyhawk.
#16 zombiegleemax Nov 21, 2004 22:23:27	Hear Hear
#17 ranger_reg Nov 22, 2004 2:09:50	I personally, and no one I know, have any interrest in playing in the default DnD world and would be more apt to purchase a DL boxed game than the DnD standard system. Tag onto that the fact that most people got their first taste of DnD via the Dragonlance novels, which has better name recognition than Greyhawk. Though your personal experience and observation may indicate no interest in the default D&D world, that doesn't mean the bigger picture exist. The Basic Game is to introduce newbies to D&D and RPG hobby. I should know. My first taste of D&D was that red Basic boxed set. Even when I played it, I didn't think too much of the setting, called the Known World which was later named Mystara. I was just looking for the next adventure wherever the DM takes us to play in. Only when I got more comfortable with the rules of the game, I began to be aware of the world, and many worlds including Dragonlance. Though I am saddened, but it's not a total loss, depending on how clever WotC can turn this thing around. I strongly recommend they make an introductory Dragonlance expansion set for the Basic Game. It gives incentive to buy the Basic Game just as the DLCS give incentive to buy PHB.
#18 ivid Nov 22, 2004 2:33:18	.... Tag onto that the fact that most people got their first taste of DnD via the Dragonlance novels, which has better name recognition than Greyhawk. :headexplo ...mmh...errr... maybe you're right... Although I can only encourage you all to give old WoG a try! ;)
#19 taskr36 Nov 27, 2004 18:04:57	It's kind of funny the way people seem to think production of Dragonlance was cancelled for fear it would compete with regular DnD. The fact is, this is the second time it has been cancelled. WotC was never very dedicated to DL as a gaming world to begin with. They stopped producing DL products when 3rd Edition DnD came out. Soveriegn Press took up the flag and attempted to bring Dragonlance back into the gaming world. I don't know what caused this cancellation, but frankly, there were so many product delays and changed release dates that I stopped looking at the Dragonlance website and quit looking for dragonlance products in the stores. What matters now is that the basic sourcebooks for Dragonlance are out. You all have the materials to run an adventure even if you have to make one up yourselves. There are still gaming products coming out in 2005 so nobody's being left high and dry.
#20 Dragonhelm Nov 27, 2004 18:13:25	It's just the DL Adventure Game boxed set, not the entire product line.
#21 baron_the_curse Nov 27, 2004 18:47:12	Well, DnD already has a Basic Box Set intended to bring in new, young players. I guess one is enough for them.
#22 wolffenjugend_dup Nov 27, 2004 19:56:02	This is EXACTLY the danger of listening to people who cry "the sky is falling, the sky is falling!" It takes practically no digging to uncover the fact that DL is still going strong. Yet I keep reading posts from people giving last rites to DL.
#23 Dragonhelm Nov 27, 2004 20:34:28	This is EXACTLY the danger of listening to people who cry "the sky is falling, the sky is falling!" It takes practically no digging to uncover the fact that DL is still going strong. Yet I keep reading posts from people giving last rites to DL. In the same thread, even. :P
#24 valharic Nov 29, 2004 10:47:55	:headexplo ...mmh...errr... maybe you're right... Although I can only encourage you all to give old WoG a try! ;) I would have to agree. When I'm not running a DL campaign. I'm playing in GH. My buddy has a campaign world of GH he's been running for 20 years now. It's a well developed and exciting world to game in.
#25 zombiegleemax Nov 29, 2004 16:22:40	Is it possible for WOTC to clean up that press release a little to avoid the confusion. One of my players saw that and immediately jumped to the same conclusion that a lot of others are, that the entire line was cancelled. Sinc only die hard DL gamers are aware that the game books were liscensed to SP(something I need to explain to my players just about every other session) and they were not even aware of the boxed adventure game was going to be publised. Would it be that difficult for WOTC to say that the DL adventure game was cancelled and add a description of the product to avoid teh confusion?
#26 brimstone Nov 29, 2004 16:27:45	Is it possible for WOTC to clean up that press release a little to avoid the confusion. If they'd just add the words "boxed set" to the end of "DL Adventure Game" I think it'd clear up all the confusion. (as it seems no one is reading past the first sentence). All that being said...a poorly worded press release is still better than no press release at all. (I have to keep saying that to myself else I'll go mad). LOL!