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#1 bob_the_efreet Nov 28, 2004 15:03:16	It was my understanding that most (if not all) of the Planescape modules followed a general metaplot. I plan on running some players through them as an introduction to Planescape, and I am wondering what order the adventures are meant to be played in, and which (if any) can just be stuffed in anywhere.
#2 sildatorak Nov 28, 2004 21:38:30	I'm not an expert in this area by any means, but I do know that The Factol's Manifesto is post-Eternal Boundary. Mordrigaarz Antill is in both, and between the two he leveled up.
#3 ripvanwormer Nov 28, 2004 22:25:34	The Great Modron March comes before Dead Gods. That's pretty important, although perhaps they could be made to overlap a little. The Great Modron March happens practically simultaneously with Return to the Tomb of Horrors, though that isn't a Planescape adventure. Then comes Faction War, which mentions the events of Dead Gods in passing. Tales From the Infinite Staircase is post-Faction War, but none of it takes place in Sigil, so it has nothing really to do with the metaplot. The metaplot is really the plotlines in Factol's Manifesto and Uncaged: Faces of Sigil. Some of these are resolved in Faction War, while others aren't.
#4 nedlum Nov 29, 2004 11:36:26	Also, there's the Aoskar/Will of the One metaplot, seen in the Manifesto, Uncaged, Doors to the Unknown (which also takes place just before, durring, or just after the March) and Dead Gods. And Faction War should have been a Meta-Plot, but they closed the line without publishing the second module.
#5 kuje31 Nov 29, 2004 14:02:16	Tales From the Infinite Staircase is post-Faction War, but none of it takes place in Sigil, so it has nothing really to do with the metaplot. This also ties in with the Realms planar adventure For Duty and Deity where you get to rescuse Waukeen.
#6 Shemeska_the_Marauder Nov 29, 2004 15:36:21	'Doors to the Unknown' forshadows both 'Great Modron March' and 'Dead Gods' and should be run before them both. And 'Faction War' is the culmination of a number of metaplots in and of itself. A shame that Monte never got to write any direct followups to sift through the ashes. Of course I personally find those ashes make for great plot fertilizer ;)
#7 ripvanwormer Nov 29, 2004 16:49:03	This also ties in with the Realms planar adventure For Duty and Deity where you get to rescuse Waukeen. Yeah, although there are no direct connections between the two adventures other than the fact that the Infinite Staircase is the major plot device in both.
#8 kuje31 Nov 29, 2004 20:15:24	Yeah, although there are no direct connections between the two adventures other than the fact that the Infinite Staircase is the major plot device in both. Well that's enough for me. Shrug hehe.
#9 zombiegleemax Dec 07, 2004 0:21:46	Guide to the Inner Planes was published post-FW, and has some interesting notes about the City of Glass becoming quite similar to the City of Doors. We really need to do a timeline for this stuff. Lets start with the oldest known event. Aoskar was killed before the establishment of the Athar, AFAIR ~600 years before Factol's Manifest was published.
#10 Shemeska_the_Marauder Dec 07, 2004 2:41:46	Lets start with the oldest known event. Aoskar was killed before the establishment of the Athar, AFAIR ~600 years before Factol's Manifest was published. I would place the imprisonment of the nameless mage inside the Labyrinth Gem by Her Serenity as the oldest known event in recorded Sigil history. The timescale is unknown here but it took place before any of the other known events, so multiple thousands of years at least. (Curiously enough in the source of that event, or one of them, there's reference to Sigil's oldest intact building, The Jester's Palace). Aoskar's death was at some point previous to the Great Upheaval which was itself around 1000 years before the Faction War (or was it 1500? I'm pulling numbers from my head here mind you). The Athar were one of the already extant factions during that period, so it had to have been at some point before than, likely centuries if not millennia. When I was writing up Planewalker's Sigil chapter I had a working timeline written out but I think that I've since misplaced it (though it got incorporated into that work).
#11 sildatorak Dec 07, 2004 10:17:29	The Great Upheaval was about 600 years before the Faction War. The Dustmen are the oldest of the 15 factions at some unknown age, with the Bleak Cabal coming in second at somewhere over 900 years old. Are you certain that the Jester's Palace is the oldest intat building, Shem? The Gatehouse is ancient, too, and might give it a run for its money.
#12 zombiegleemax Dec 07, 2004 13:57:33	Are you searching for MEANING in the fact, that the Gatehouse is more ancient than the Jester's Palace? ;)
#13 Shemeska_the_Marauder Dec 07, 2004 14:14:29	The Dustmen are the oldest of the 15 factions at some unknown age, with the Bleak Cabal coming in second at somewhere over 900 years old. Are you certain that the Jester's Palace is the oldest intat building, Shem? The Gatehouse is ancient, too, and might give it a run for its money. I'm certain about the Jester's Palace. The gatehouse is old too, but not quite as ancient as Jeremo's place. Of course the Xaositects are of unknown age too, having existed in one form or another for who knows how long. Constantly disbanding, restarting, changing, etc. The Ciphers as well don't have an exact age pinned down and may have existed for a very long time before their current incarnation. I'm not doubting however that the Dusties as the absolute oldest, that isn't really in question.
#14 sildatorak Dec 07, 2004 20:31:40	Are you searching for MEANING in the fact, that the Gatehouse is more ancient than the Jester's Palace? ;) No.
#15 ripvanwormer Dec 07, 2004 21:10:51	We really need to do a timeline for this stuff. There are a variety of timelines posted at http://greyhawkonline.com/pitsofevil/viewtopic.php?t=1783