However, the GREYHAWK MAP SECTION #1 is spectacular (IMO)! Bravo. *claps* The only problem that I have with it is that it is printed on very light paper stock. But that really is not a prob, I plan on laminating it anyways. I really wanted to see major roadways mapped out, but now looking at the actual map, even at this large, roads would really clutter up the goodness. No doubt, best GH map to date.
...now, when does #119 get here! Ahh I can't wait! ;)
.................................Omote
FPQ
Weird, the latest preview on the Paizo website seems to indicate it's the NW quadrant. Can we get a confirmation Omote?
Actually the NW quadrant would make more sense given the included adventure Throne of Iuz, but...there is also the 2nd part of the Istivin thing. So, let's see what Omote sez.
The southern cut-off goes all the way to the south where the cut off is one hex south of Greyhawk.
Really the map is very well done. The colors are great and obviously the map is inspired by the Darlene map (especially the colors). However the mountains are drawn more rigid and sharp (realistic if you will), and lighter in color. The villages, towns, cities, castles, and dungeons are clearly marked on the map in a thin font, but bold enough so that they are easily located.
There is only one ICON on the map I havn't figured out yet. The icon is a black pyramid shape. The index of the map doesn't say what the small black pyramid shape is supposed to represent.
.........................Omote
FPQ
Coming to a gaming magazine near you?
There is only one ICON on the map I havn't figured out yet. The icon is a black pyramid shape. The index of the map doesn't say what the small black pyramid shape is supposed to represent.
If you tell us where it is located, maybe we can try to guess what it is?
:P
...Maybe it's supposed to be the notation for a free city with no affiliation with a specific kingdom... maybe?
..................................Omote
FPQ
1) black pyramid = location of a hidden temple to Tharizdun
2) location of the future adventures of the next Adventure Path of Dungeon
--Erik Mona
Editor-in-Chief
Dragon & Dungeon
--Erik
..................................Omote
FPQ
...Online version...?
Given the map is an incentive to buy Dungeon, don't expect one any time soon...
...............................Omote
FPQ
Online version...?
The Eberron map they put in Dungeon mere months ago already has a downloadable online revision and errata on this very site.
The Eberron map they put in Dungeon mere months ago already has a downloadable online revision and errata on this very site.
Yeah, but that is more along the lines of advertisement costs for a product on the market. Greyhawk has no product on the market to advertise, therefore there is no reason to release it for free.
Halber
Yeah, but that is more along the lines of advertisement costs for a product on the market. Greyhawk has no product on the market to advertise, therefore there is no reason to release it for free.
Halber
Sure there is... Dungeon Magazine. Now that we're all experts on the matter...
Given the map is an incentive to buy Dungeon, don't expect one any time soon...
My problem that my retailer wants 15(!!!) ⁈ for it - and that's more than I pay for a regular rpg book. No way will I give that money to that shark! ;)
Mr. Mona, can't you do something so that European readers of your mag can enjoy it for a fair price, too?
Sure there is... Dungeon Magazine. Now that we're all experts on the matter...
Don't be trite, just because someone isn't an expert on a subject, doesn't mean they have to shut up about the matter.
I gave an informed opinion, you can disagree with it, but don't belittle me.
That said, this is already advertising Dungeon well enough even without it being free. Though of course you are more than welcome to ignore me and ask Erik Mona himself.
Halber
My problem that my retailer wants 15(!!!) ⁈ for it - and that's more than I pay for a regular rpg book. No way will I give that money to that shark! ;)
Mr. Mona, can't you do something so that European readers of your mag can enjoy it for a fair price, too?
I'm under the impression that a subscription would be cheaper... or just buying one magazine online at Paizo.
Don't be trite, just because someone isn't an expert on a subject, doesn't mean they have to shut up about the matter.
I gave an informed opinion, you can disagree with it, but don't belittle me.
That said, this is already advertising Dungeon well enough even without it being free. Though of course you are more than welcome to ignore me and ask Erik Mona himself.
Halber
My apologies; I admit that was rude of me. My point was that an online, low-resolution, small-scale version could act as a preview of the the larger, printed Greyhawk maps and could entice potential buyers to get the magazine.
I'm under the impression that a subscription would be cheaper... or just buying one magazine online at Paizo.
And you would be right. I am european and have a subscription (pretty much thanks to the amount of GH materials Erik has been putting in Dungeon lately) which cost me barely 6 $ per issue (including shipping). Now, THAT is what I call a good deal!
And you would be right. I am european and have a subscription (pretty much thanks to the amount of GH materials Erik has been putting in Dungeon lately) which cost me barely 6 $ per issue (including shipping). Now, THAT is what I call a good deal!
:raincloud
In my heart I feel the most pure... envy!!!
;)
Yeah, will check the Paizo site for some better way to get the mag. Thank you, Man in Darkness; apart from ebay! e-commerce and electronic ordering still remain a mystery to me...
My apologies; I admit that was rude of me. My point was that an online, low-resolution, small-scale version could act as a preview of the the larger, printed Greyhawk maps and could entice potential buyers to get the magazine.
Accepted. Greyhawkers are sometimes overly passionate, but rarely ever truly rude.
Though if I may add, I also would definately like to see a "legal" electronic version myself.
Halber
I like the Throne of Iuz setting (but will take a while to get used to Orcs with THAT many HPs
)Overall a good solid mag.
Anyways, back to the map thing. I liked the map so much I went to my local massively large chain printing and copying store to have them laminate the map. Lo and behold the moron behind the counter didn't have the machine's heat turned up high enough and caused some of the map to turn white and the rest of it to have bubbles all over it! Ruined. Lost. Of no use. I'm glad I picked up a few copies of the mag. I will try again at ANOTHER priting & copying store. A bit of me died that day.
On a side note, my FLGS sold out of their stock of Dungeon #118. They only get 4 copies every month, but they still sold out in under a week.
.........................Omote
FPQ
AHHHHH! *******!!! (am I allowed to say *******?)
. A bit of me died that day.
That reminds me of the day my father accidentally *crushed* He - Man's left arm...
That reminds me of the day my father accidentally *crushed* He - Man's left arm...
At last the truth is revealed!!
Ivids Father is Skeletor!!!! :OMG!
Nevermind Drow on Oerth ......
To me, the map is the essence of a campaign. Spreading the map out on the table and looking at all the strange names and places and wondering 'what goes on there?'. That's the strength of a good campaign setting to me. Not telling stories but providing a place for the DM and player's stories to live.
It even has Castle Hart on it, which - to me - pretty much screams 'quality design'.
My only problem is that it doesn't look or feel sturdy. Laminating it or locking it in a vault seem like the only viable options
At last the truth is revealed!!
Ivids Father is Skeletor!!!! :OMG!
Nevermind Drow on Oerth ......
Mmmmh... I used to call him *Hordak* when I was a child... *And sometimes TEELA, when I was mocking him...*
:D