I had significant difficulty obtaining a copy, however. While the Paizo site indicates a release to stores yesterday, in fact, many stores were (unknown to me) selling it last week! As a result, Dungeon Issue 118 was "SOLD OUT" in 4 of 5 game stores I had to canvass before finally locating a lone remaining copy.
Word to the wise - don't believe the release date to stores indicated at the Paizo site - if you have not already done so, go get your copy NOW.
GVD
Pretty impressive actually.
You'd think Wizards of the Coast would take notice of this frenzied buying of anything Greyhawk and start to think that perhaps that Greyhawk is the site that keeps D&D alive, or at least contributes a LOT towards this, much more than other worlds.
Then, and perhaps only then, we could see some more direct supplement support for Greyhawk. Some sourcebooks would be nice, as would the completion of the fabulous work of Carl Sargent.
Jeepers!
You'd think Wizards of the Coast would take notice of this frenzied buying of anything Greyhawk and start to think that perhaps that Greyhawk is the site that keeps D&D alive, or at least contributes a LOT towards this, much more than other worlds.
Then, and perhaps only then, we could see some more direct supplement support for Greyhawk. Some sourcebooks would be nice, as would the completion of the fabulous work of Carl Sargent.
I was just thinking this.
As an aside, I just recently introduced a new gaming group to Greyhawk (using the LGG and History of the Greyhawk Wars), and they have fallen in love with it. Now I have PCs that include a refugee of Fax who is now a cleric of Ralishaz, a half-elf child from Celene who's father was one of the Knights of Luna, a Paladin who's father, a Knight of Almor, died when chathold fell, and two more who's characters are in development. These concepts were created by these new players with minimal help from me. The fact that four of the five are new to Dungeons & Dragons makes it even better as the richness of Greyhawk has pulled them into a world in which they are eager to explore...
heh, that's sweet, Amaril. I have just converted 2 Realmsers, myself and it feels great!
Tell me about it! I just hope that the new Dungeon content will respawn interest for both gamers and WotC so that we can get new hardcover material even if it is just a collection of old LGJ, Dungeon, and Dragon content (or maybe a non-FR Underdark).
We Hawkers form the oldest *and biggest* game community, I believe.
I wonder about WotC game policy for quite a while - they cripple FR and push out a *sometimes very similar* sequel product, Eberron.
Then, at the same time, they give us the OGL, because they don't want to work for some perfectly well going worlds anymore, but instead publish products that are *worthless, not in terms of quality, but in terms of financial success*, like Wheel of Time RPG and CoC.
Besides, they ignore the flourishing fan communities of games they consider *dead and gone*, like Birthright, Dark Sun, Dragon Lance, Ravenloft and of course, Greyhawk.
Almost all those games do well and have *independent* publications, be it with the help of the OGL, like RL and DL, or be it a fan project, like the Oerth Journal.
I honestly believe that with all the stuff out there, noone of us will ever again need to buy a WotC *core* product, but have stuff for YEARS of gaming.
Why don't they realize, that, if they like it or not, we're still here and we're here to stay!?
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FPQ
I wonder about WotC game policy for quite a while - they cripple FR and push out a *sometimes very similar* sequel product, Eberron.
You are onto something there. I guess the same could've been said about FR in comparison to GH when it first came out. To endear a new setting to people you have to let them cling some onto what they adore.
It seems to me that they are *deesperately* trying to vut ties with old TSR. As long as there are still people out there that rely mainly only 2nd Ed products, they will never get the sales they desire.
I'm not sure I follow you on this thought. Wouldn't they increase sales if they can provide revised materials to 3.5e players, which are their primary market?
If they rely on only one product line, they can bring the gaming community to the direction they want, sorta like *we stop publishing FR, then everybody switches to Eberron.*
If you buy the newest books written exclusively to support that campaigns to gather stuff for your own game, aren't you likely to get interested in the *official * background of the books you are reading?
*For example, I bought the Erde d20 stuff as a support for Greyhawk, and at the moment I end up DMing Erde and having no Greyhawk campaign going on*
I had significant difficulty obtaining a copy, however. While the Paizo site indicates a release to stores yesterday, in fact, many stores were (unknown to me) selling it last week! As a result, Dungeon Issue 118 was "SOLD OUT" in 4 of 5 game stores I had to canvass before finally locating a lone remaining copy.
Word to the wise - don't believe the release date to stores indicated at the Paizo site - if you have not already done so, go get your copy NOW.
Yes, I read your thread and rememberd the trouble i had getting a copy of the Maure Castle isssue, so i went to the one store that had the Maure Castle issue. Apparently, this store always gets their mags by the 10th of the month and puts them out immediately. They one copy of 118 left and I have it, HAHAHAH! I have decided that i just need to get a subscription because I hate the sensation of wondering whether I will get all 4 parts to the map.
Thanks GV Dammerung for the heads up on having trouble finding a copy of the magazine, if i hadn't read that, i might have been in trouble.